Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations (12 Viewers)

Nick

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But transfer fees are not going towards ccfc for team building are they, if they were or just a small percentage was perhaps we wouldn't now be in division 4.

Going towards running the club, as they would then without the other 50%...
 

sky blue john

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Well we've got to build a team to gain those promotions and we'll be hamstrung with half of any money we make to build a better team going to SISU! I think it's madness but just my opinion, of course.

But more fans are likely to get behind the club which might offset what Sisu will need to be given.
The club under Sisu is in decline they are still trying to get to the bottom of the cycle. If you think its madness then you must think Sisu can turn it around?
Will season tickets be up next season?
 

torchomatic

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Who are all of the investors for these bids?

Good point. If there's 7 investors then who are the other 6?
 

Nick

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Who are SISU's investors? Let's ask that question first considering they're the ones gaining from our club..

That doesn't really answer it, you missed my point. Also, using what SISU do as an example when talking about any potential new owners is a bad sign.
 

torchomatic

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But more fans are likely to get behind the club which might offset what Sisu will need to be given.
The club under Sisu is in decline they are still trying to get to the bottom of the cycle. If you think its madness then you must think Sisu can turn it around?
Will season tickets be up next season?

Where did I say SISU could turn it around. You don't need to make stuff up. I'm saying I want them gone NOW and not be in hock to them for another three years.

As for this explosion in ticket sales once they have gone well I will believe that when it happens.
 

Nick

Administrator
It never stopped Hoffman putting offers in for the club on several occasions in the past 5 years, what is stopping these others doing it? Maybe because their isn't any? Who knows.

How many of them have been serious offers? Anybody could sit and offer things they know SISU would never entertain.

Going forward he may well do that, but offering token amounts with numbers to represent 1987 doesn't show a serious bid.
 

Nick

Administrator
Why should they disclose themselves at this moment in time, and while we are at it who are the sisu investors?

Why should they disclose themselves?

Surely hidden away investors and faceless people is bad, no matter whether it's SISU or Hoffman fronting it?

Read the context of what brought that up, I'm sure you will understand then.
 

Captain Dart

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Who are all of the investors for these bids?
Don't see the issue, we don't know who SISU investors are and never will, we do know who some of the Hoff investors are and should we find out the others (hope & expect so) the situation will be a great deal more transparent than at present.
 

torchomatic

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Why should they disclose themselves at this moment in time, and while we are at it who are the sisu investors?

So you are using SISU as an example now? If it's good enough for them then it's good enough for Hoff?
 

Generally Midfield

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I find it hard to work out why some of our fans are against the idea of a consortium of City fans attempting to buy out Sisu. It really is bizarre.

Bizarre is maybe putting it a bit strong but if the choice boils down to

(a) continuing with an owner who doesn't care about football and doesn't invest

or

(b) a consortium of City fans who want us to do well

doesn't seem too tricky which to opt for
 

skybluebeduff

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Or because you said they were transparent as a difference to SISU, then in reply used SISU to justify it.
How can you talk about transparency when they are only just trying to save our club? SISU have had nearly 10 years to be transparent about it, do you think Hoff will do the same, or just presuming so?
 

torchomatic

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I find it hard to work out why some of our fans are against the idea of a consortium of City fans attempting to buy out Sisu. It really is bizarre.

I don't think anyone is against it, are they? It's the old not allowed to question GH, isn't it?
 

Nick

Administrator
How can you talk about transparency when they are only just trying to save our club? SISU have had nearly 10 years to be transparent about it, do you think Hoff will do the same, or just presuming so?

No, I am saying they aren't very transparent also at this moment in time. Justifying it because SISU aren't doesn't work, we should want any new owner to be the opposite and not even comparable on any level.

It is you presuming.

Let's hope he does make an offer they can't refuse and everything is run completely different.
 

skybluebeduff

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Don't we want it to be as best as can possibly be?
Being rid of SISU is the best it can possibly be, like I've said, how can it possibly get worse than SISU? I'm a gambling man, I would risk new owners over SISU on every chance I could get. We know the direction with SISU, what we don't know is where they're leading us too.
 

skybluebeduff

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No, I am saying they aren't very transparent also at this moment in time. Justifying it because SISU aren't doesn't work, we should want any new owner to be the opposite and not even comparable on any level.

It is you presuming.

Let's hope he does make an offer they can't refuse and everything is run completely different.
Give them chance then to obtain this club, then we can start asking the transparency questions.
 

torchomatic

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Of course they should be questioned as to their intentions, as should any perspective or current owners.

I agree. I was just saying I disagree with your statement there are people on here who are against the deal being done.
 

Nick

Administrator
Give them chance then to obtain this club, then we can start asking the transparency questions.

It's not down to me to give them chance, I will support CCFC if it was hoffman, wasps or the council.

It's down to him getting offers made up that will be accepted, addressing the debt etc instead of just saying how it was bought for a £1.
 

torchomatic

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