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Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations (2 Viewers)

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torchomatic

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,361
sky blue john said:
Looks like Ranson instigated it.
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JE/GH happy with decision though and as James said JE was looking how the message to fans was going to be "managed".
 
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Monners

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,362
Good job it never happened as the Academy is now in safe hands
 
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sky blue john

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,363
torchomatic said:
JE/GH happy with decision though and as James said JE was looking how the message to fans was going to be "managed".
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Lol
How do you make out everyone was happy about it?
I doubt it was something they wanted to do. You have to remember at that time there were mortgages on ryton and season ticket sales were being borrowed against.
Anyway when did the Academy close?
Hey don't let that spoil your argument though!
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,364
Joe Elliott put in over a million quid when a million was worth a lot more then of his own money sponsoring our youth system in time gone by.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,365
sky blue john said:
Lol
How do you make out everyone was happy about it?
I doubt it was something they wanted to do. You have to remember at that time there were mortgages on ryton and season ticket sales were being borrowed against.
Anyway when did the Academy close?
Hey don't let that spoil your argument though!
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And you know for sure they didn't agree with the decision? Maybe you could.kindly post the minutes where they strongly disagreed with the decision. I can apologise then.

No, the Academy didn't close so thankfully everyone came to their senses.
 

Ian1779

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,366
torchomatic said:
JE/GH happy with decision though and as James said JE was looking how the message to fans was going to be "managed".
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This is why Gary is not the man...
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,367
Ian1779 said:
This is why Gary is not the man...
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It's either him or SISU, take your pick...
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,368
Ian1779 said:
This is why Gary is not the man...
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Well if it's him it's him but would rather have someone totally unconnected with the current regime.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,369
skybluebeduff said:
It's either him or SISU, take your pick...
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Not sure how different it will be as Hoff wants to give them loads of our income anyway.
 
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Monners

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,370
I find it hard to work out why some of our fans are against the idea of a consortium of City fans attempting to buy out Sisu. It really is bizarre.
 
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Monners

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,371
torchomatic said:
Well if it's him it's him but would rather have someone totally unconnected with the current regime.
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So would I, but we this is where we currently are.. Sisu have to go for our club to at least attempt to stop the rot and devise a strategy to move forward. It may lead to "more worthy" buyers taking up the reagin at some point.
 
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sky blue john

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,372
torchomatic said:
And you know for sure they didn't agree with the decision? Maybe you could.kindly post the minutes where they strongly disagreed with the decision. I can apologise then.

No, the Academy didn't close so thankfully everyone came to their senses.
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Lol
I just posted up the minutes as a refresher for everyone, make of it what you will.
But if you believe any CCFC fan would actually want to close the academy by choice your a bigger muppet than i originally thought.
Looking at it with a ballanced view it was more about the financial pressures the club were under that it was even considered.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,373
rupert_bear said:
Joe Elliott put in over a million quid when a million was worth a lot more then of his own money sponsoring our youth system in time gone by.
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I find that very hard to believe.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,374
skybluebeduff said:
It's either him or SISU, take your pick...
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...or AN Other.
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,375
sky blue john said:
Lol
I just posted up the minutes as a refresher for everyone, make of it what you will.
But if you believe any CCFC fan would actually want to close the academy by choice your a bigger muppet than i originally thought.
Looking at it with a ballanced view it was more about the financial pressures the club were under that it was even considered.
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Ok so we'll take that as JE and GH being really, really, really angry about it. Apologies you were right.
 
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Monners

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,376
Deleted member 5849 said:
...or AN Other.
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Who would that be?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,377
rupert_bear said:
Joe Elliott put in over a million quid when a million was worth a lot more then of his own money sponsoring our youth system in time gone by.
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What a load of bollocks. You don't half spout some rubbish. £1m to sponsor the youth team in the 80s at 80s prices! Have a day off.
 
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JulianDarbyFTW

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,378
torchomatic said:
Not sure how different it will be as Hoff wants to give them loads of our income anyway.
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Whilst I agree with your sentiment, it's 3 years of transfer fees - year 4 and we're home free. And the cut from promotions is a price worth paying imho - they come with their own windfalls anyway*.

*This has been posted purely to help towards the 100 page count. Are we almost at the Portsmouth thread territory yet?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,379
Monners said:
Who would that be?
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We'll find out whenever they come forward.
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,380
JulianDarbyFTW said:
Whilst I agree with your sentiment, it's 3 years of transfer fees - year 4 and we're home free. And the cut from promotions is a price worth paying imho - they come with their own windfalls anyway.
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Well we've got to build a team to gain those promotions and we'll be hamstrung with half of any money we make to build a better team going to SISU! I think it's madness but just my opinion, of course.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,381
fernandopartridge said:
What a load of bollocks. You don't half spout some rubbish. £1m to sponsor the youth team in the 80s at 80s prices! Have a day off.
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He only sponsored the shirts didn't he? What were Tallon pens paying - £5 million?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,382
All of the 50% here and addons is a distraction away from the fact he isn't acknowledging any of the debts.
 
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Monners

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,383
Deleted member 5849 said:
We'll find out whenever they come forward.
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That of course may never happen, or if it does, the club would likely to be in a worse state than it currently is. I would be prepared to take the risk with this consortium, even though there is some history. For one, it would be easier to hold them to account.

Sisu (no interest in the club) v fan led consortium?
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,384
torchomatic said:
Well we've got to build a team to gain those promotions and we'll be hamstrung with half of any money we make to build a better team going to SISU! I think it's madness but just my opinion, of course.
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If you are talking half of the transfer fees the next 3 years going to SISU how much in percentage terms do you think they get now. I'll put it to you getting half towards ccfc the next 3years will be a massive increase.
 
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Monners

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,385
The key point is that the thread is now back on track for 100 pages - time for tea!
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,386
rupert_bear said:
If you are talking half of the transfer fees the next 3 years going to SISU how much in percentage terms do you think they get now. I'll put it to you getting half towards ccfc the next 3years will be a massive increase.
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Are you on the meths?

First they nonsense about Elliot and now sisu Apparantjy trousering transfer fees to the Cayman Islands.
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,387
Deleted member 5849 said:
...or AN Other.
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There isn't another, that's a bit clear now isn't it?
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,388
Grendel said:
I find that very hard to believe.
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A fact my dear
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,389
skybluebeduff said:
There isn't another, that's a bit clear now isn't it?
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There would always be others. If SISU came out and said "CCFC is for sale" then I think we would see others interested.
 
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skybluebeduff

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,390
torchomatic said:
Not sure how different it will be as Hoff wants to give them loads of our income anyway.
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The difference being people who care for the club and fans will be in charge. A transparent owner instead of a faceless bitch that we have right now.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,391
Grendel said:
Are you on the meths?

First they nonsense about Elliot and now sisu Apparantjy trousering transfer fees to the Cayman Islands.
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But transfer fees are not going towards ccfc for team building are they, if they were or just a small percentage was perhaps we wouldn't now be in division 4.

As for Elliott sponsoring the youth set-up in the past do your homework you spend enough time stuck behind the keyboard
 
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torchomatic

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,392
skybluebeduff said:
The difference being people who care for the club and fans will be in charge. A transparent owner instead of a faceless bitch that we have right now.
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I would hope fans wouldn't be in charge. They would have to be businessmen before being fans.
 
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Godiva

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,393
Monners said:
I find it hard to work out why some of our fans are against the idea of a consortium of City fans attempting to buy out Sisu. It really is bizarre.
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Could well be like peeing in your pants on a cold winter day. Warm feeling at first - then it gets really, really cold.
 

Nick

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,394
skybluebeduff said:
The difference being people who care for the club and fans will be in charge. A transparent owner instead of a faceless bitch that we have right now.
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Who are all of the investors for these bids?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 25, 2017
  • #3,395
rupert_bear said:
But transfer fees are not going towards ccfc for team building are they, if they were or just a small percentage was perhaps we wouldn't now be in division 4.
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So what you're saying is that if we give our transfer fees away, we'll run at a loss?
 
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