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Rumour: Hoffman and Elliot takeover negotiations (4 Viewers)

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Edgey95

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,381
Personally I can still see sisu here next season
 

olderskyblue

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,382
Sky Blue Kid said:
Has anybody thought why any bids have been rejected with Hoffman in the equation? I have my theories as to why this is. Discuss, and I'll give my thoughts on it later.
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Maybe because if he is involved, any dirty washing (that he may have been privvy too) could be hung out in public once SISU have gone.

What was his role at CCFC? Vice Chairman? Was he responsible for the Finance? If so, maybe Tim's assertion that the books were in a mess reflected badly on him, given his trade, and he may want to put that right? Just guessing.
 
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ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,383
@italiahorse does this replace the news expected to be today? You said more news on Friday?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,384
Anyhow. In all the excitement of yesterday I forgot to update everyone on my goldfish's C section. It turns out goldfish can't get pregnant and it was just a severe case of trapped wind. That's what happens when you call a goldfish Vivian.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,385
skybluetony176 said:
I never said he's got the timings right. Would be funny in a way though if it did happen.
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Yeah but that goes back to the point that anyone could make up a rumour with no timescales.

Here's one from me:

* CCFC are going to get taken over and SISU will be gone.

Heard it here first. No need to thank me when it happens.
 
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King of the Lesbians

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,386
Sky Blue Kid said:
Has anybody thought why any bids have been rejected with Hoffman in the equation? I have my theories as to why this is. Discuss, and I'll give my thoughts on it later.
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Are you going to be doing using just gifs like yesterday?
I'm wet already...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,387
olderskyblue said:
Maybe because if he is involved, any dirty washing (that he may have been privvy too) could be hung out in public once SISU have gone.
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Surely that could be hung out whether he has bought CCFC or not though?
 

ccfc92

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,388
Nick said:
Surely that could be hung out whether he has bought CCFC or not though?
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Won't exactly make sisu want to deal with him. You know how petulant they are anyway.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,389
It'd be odd if JLR get naming rights of the stadium after Jaguar pulled out all those years ago. Come back with their off-road mates to smash the photocopier to bits like that scene in Office Space.

Red Stapler conference hall
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,390
olderskyblue said:
Maybe because if he is involved, any dirty washing (that he may have been privvy too) could be hung out in public once SISU have gone.

What was his role at CCFC? Vice Chairman? Was he responsible for the Finance? If so, maybe Tim's assertion that the books were in a mess reflected badly on him, given his trade, and he may want to put that right? Just guessing.
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Not far off imho mate. I think Hoffman knows exactly what debt SISU have, and knows that it's nothing like they claim it to be. What other reason could SISU want to see "Transparency" who is making any offer before the offer is made! They imho want to deal with bidders with no colaboration with Hoffman or. for that matter Elliot. These two know more than anyone gives them credit for.
 

BigadamL

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,391
The positive I'm taking from the latest update is...... negotiations are on going
 
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skybluebeduff

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,392
BigadamL said:
The positive I'm taking from the latest update is...... negotiations are on going
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Me too, I didn't even believe anyone would make an offer so all of this is a bonus!
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,393
King of the Lesbians said:
Are you going to be doing using just gifs like yesterday?
I'm wet already...
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Just for you....
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,394
BigadamL said:
The positive I'm taking from the latest update is...... negotiations are on going
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What's the latest update?
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,395
Offer an undisclosed bid, sisu accepted loads of them
 

Rob S

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,396
Sky Blue Kid said:
Not far off imho mate. I think Hoffman knows exactly what debt SISU have, and knows that it's nothing like they claim it to be. What other reason could SISU want to see "Transparency" who is making any offer before the offer is made! They imho want to deal with bidders with no colaboration with Hoffman or. for that matter Elliot. These two know more than anyone gives them credit for.
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What I don't get is why Hoffman is being given a free pass as our potential saviour. He was front & centre for the whole mess in the first place – along with Onye, Ranson et al – and has to take some major responsibility for running up the debts and our fall from grace, surely?
 
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Sterling Archer

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,397
Careful Rob, you'll be called a SISU lover and a scab for those kind of perfectly rational thoughts.


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oucho

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,398
Rob S said:
What I don't get is why Hoffman is being given a free pass as our potential saviour. He was front & centre for the whole mess in the first place – along with Onye, Ranson et al – and has to take some major responsibility for running up the debts and our fall from grace, surely?
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True but he is apparently the only alternative that seems interested at the moment - most fans would choose him over SISU in a heartbeat.
 
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Joy Division

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,399
Rob S said:
He was front & centre for the whole mess in the first place – along with Onye, Ranson et al – and has to take some major responsibility for running up the debts and our fall from grace, surely?
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In what way was he?
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,400
Nick said:
How many others then said "lets make them accept it at the walsall game".

If the massive news that a fantastic offer was rejected was to have come out in the telegraph today, the day before the walsall game then it would have stirred a fair bit up.
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You're mental.

No-one is releasing rumours to "stir things up". What's the point? There's no massive conspiracy Nick, just an endless succession of arseholes and fuck ups.

Edit: I see the Sisu Defence Force are out today. Is there some kind of c**t signal for you guys, or a WhatsApp group, or?
 
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RegTheDonk

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,401
Evo1883 said:
By the way I could show you inboxes on Facebook that tell me business men from Coventry are going to try and get the club once relegation is confirmed , this was a few days before the post on Facebook and any leak being mentioned .
I chose to believe my usual source over these rumours once he got in touch because if never had solid info before from other people .
Either way just be happy people are trying to remove SISU
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Evo, fair play to you mate. You obviously had some rumblings but wanted to have something a bit more concrete before you shared it with us. Best way and thanks for letting it out of the bag when you felt it was appropriate.

Though it turned out to be a failed bid, it WAS proof that something was going on. Without your post, which started this thread and I'll bet ultimately led to the CT and the Observer asking questions, we might never have known anything was afoot. If anything it puts pressure of Fisher, SISU, the league, that people are not happy and want change. It might also encourge potential buyers that if they want to play the game, they need to be serious and have a proper wad in the wings.
 

Sterling Archer

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,402
shmmeee said:
Edit: I see the Sisu Defence Force are out today. Is there some kind of c**t signal for you guys, or a WhatsApp group, or?
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... and so it begins.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,403
shmmeee said:
You're mental.

No-one is releasing rumours to "stir things up". What's the point? There's no massive conspiracy Nick, just an endless succession of arseholes and fuck ups.

Edit: I see the Sisu Defence Force are out today. Is there some kind of c**t signal for you guys, or a WhatsApp group, or?
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Of course things get stirred up and rumours get released for that very purpose. Do you really think rumours aren't used "tactically"?

Sisu Defence Force, have a word with yourself or link me to where they are being defended? By saying an offer wouldn't be good enough for them to accept isn't defending them. At least using your logic OSB is now part of the SISU defence force, I will get him a t shirt made up.

Shouting and crying saying "they should accept this offer I know nothing about because I want them to" is however more mental and a bit naive.

Maybe try and read things and reply to the points rather than just using SISU defence, it doesn't really work.
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,404
Rob S said:
What I don't get is why Hoffman is being given a free pass as our potential saviour. He was front & centre for the whole mess in the first place – along with Onye, Ranson et al – and has to take some major responsibility for running up the debts and our fall from grace, surely?
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In Hoffman's own words....
Ray Ranson 'quit Coventry City as his hands were tied by SISU'
 
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Nick

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,405
Sky Blue Kid said:
In Hoffman's own words....
Ray Ranson 'quit Coventry City as his hands were tied by SISU'
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Ranson can't be blamed for anything then as he said his hands were tied...
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,406
Joy Division said:
In what way was he?
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He was the vice-chairman whilst SISU spunked their initial investment on Chris Coleman and his mediocre signings rather than make a genuine attempt to seize the Ricoh and put in place some foundations for a sustainable future. The bloke's track record with CCFC is as bad as anybody's.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,407
shmmeee said:
You're mental.

No-one is releasing rumours to "stir things up". What's the point? There's no massive conspiracy Nick, just an endless succession of arseholes and fuck ups.

Edit: I see the Sisu Defence Force are out today. Is there some kind of c**t signal for you guys, or a WhatsApp group, or?
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you are either a massive twat or really stupid.
 
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ajsccfc

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,408
I've never bought Ranson's damage control, telling us that we'd have signed Andy Carroll and Jordan Henderson for £2.50 if he had his way. Tim Fisher is just the final end level boss version of Ranson.
 
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Nick

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,409
ajsccfc said:
I've never bought Ranson's damage control, telling us that we'd have signed Andy Carroll and Jordan Henderson for £2.50 if he had his way. Tim Fisher is just the final end level boss version of Ranson.
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When Fisher leaves if he says "I wanted SISU to go because I hated them and I wanted to buy Adam Armstrong but they said no" will he be a hero?
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,410
Evo1883 said:
I do believe they wouldn't play their best hand straight away , if they are serious about this they will keep negotiating up until they reach their limit
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agree, but I'm worried the consortium upper limit won't meet sisus valuation which I expect to be unrealistic.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,411
Sterling Archer said:
... and so it begins.
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Bonkers isn't it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,412
clint van damme said:
agree, but I'm worried the consortium upper limit won't meet sisus valuation which I expect to be unrealistic.
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This is where knowing the details comes in.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,413
MusicDating said:
Bonkers isn't it.
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It's almost as if people have no other argument. Quite telling really.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,414
Sky Blue Kid said:
In Hoffman's own words....
Ray Ranson 'quit Coventry City as his hands were tied by SISU'
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Must be true. The football league investigation into his conduct I'm sure had nothing to do with it.
 
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coop

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  • Apr 21, 2017
  • #2,415
Hoffman is a ccfc fan seen him at lots of away games and by the looks of things the only hope we have got.
 
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