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Rose out injured for 'weeks, if not months' (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Bristol sky blue
  • Start date Aug 23, 2016
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Bristol sky blue

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #1
Really bad news for us as he is one of the few players who offers a goal threat!

TM says that recent injuries mean we 'may have to adjust our targets' - am hoping that doesn't mean we end up with the equivalent of Hunt, Henderson and Ramage as quick stop-gap solutions...

Lets hope the knock Ben Stevenson had v Bradford is only minor, otherwise we're light in midfield...
 

no_loyalty

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #2
Worrying that we have lots of injuries at the moment
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #3
Big shame, was a very poor tackle that caused it as well!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #4
Big blow, to think it wasnt even a booking

Really need a rwb now
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #5
Nick said:
Big blow, to think it wasnt even a booking

Really need a rwb now
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Premier league it would have been a red.
 
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Bristol sky blue

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #6
Wonder if this means TM will change his mind over Kane Smith?

My impression was that he seemed to rate him, but thought we needed players in other positions more urgently. That may have changed.

TM probably doesn't want to risk DKE as a starter (not physical enough) and Willis seems more comfortable at CB...
 

no_loyalty

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #7
Bristol sky blue said:
Wonder if this means TM will change his mind over Kane Smith?
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Doubt it, will probably go and sign Bigi instead
 
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North York’s Blue

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #8
no_loyalty said:
Doubt it, will probably go and sign Bigi instead
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Exactly what I thought.
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #9
Is loretzon still free?
 
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Kingokings204

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #10
Interestingly mowbray says we are still 4 first teamers light. But be waiting for some players then. Hopefully else we look very thin
 

chiefdave

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #11
Well that's not good news. The standard of officiating at this level needs to be sorted. If a player can take someone out of the game for months with a tackle like that and not even get booked the bad tackles won't stop.
 
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Otis

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #12
Bristol sky blue said:
Wonder if this means TM will change his mind over Kane Smith?

My impression was that he seemed to rate him, but thought we needed players in other positions more urgently. That may have changed.

TM probably doesn't want to risk DKE as a starter (not physical enough) and Willis seems more comfortable at CB...
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Exactly my thinking too. I don't think he went with Smith partly because he believed we had enough cover for the position. This obviously changes things.
 

albatross

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #13
After 5 games down to a "bare bones" squad , its a worrying predicament
 
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stupot07

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #14
I thought he had not signed Smith because he wasnt ready for the first team and needed to develop plus we had 3 players that can play in that position. If we sign someone we need them to be able to come into the first team straight away not need 12 months of development

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Esoterica

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #15
stupot07 said:
I thought he had not signed Smith because he wasnt ready for the first team and needed to develop plus we had 3 players that can play in that position. If we sign someone we need them to be able to come into the first team straight away not need 12 months of development

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And requires a fee I think? How much budget can he blow on that now after signing Turnbull and still needing to cover other positions. Suggest any new RWB/RB will now be a loan til January.
Edit: Might even ditch the 3 at the back and go to a flat back 4 which with Jones and Reid in the team might be a blessing in disguise so they can actually play as wingers.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #16
Yeah he could then have either Ricketts or Willis as a normal RB with DKE as a backup.
 

Sterling Archer

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #17
I know Bigi was not well received upon his return here (the first game back he looked like he had never played football before) but I genuinely thought he improved tenfold by the end of the season. If the deal works for both parties id bring him in, even just as another body in what is already a tiny squad struggling with injuries.

He's still young enough to improve and really isn't as bad as people would have you believe.

My only fear is that he'd need to hit the ground running which he didn't last season upon his return.
 
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Irish Sky Blue

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #18
Sterling Archer said:
I know Bigi was not well received upon his return here (the first game back he looked like he had never played football before) but I genuinely thought he improved tenfold by the end of the season. If the deal works for both parties id bring him in, even just as another body in what is already a tiny squad struggling with injuries.

He's still young enough to improve and really isn't as bad as people would have you believe.

My only fear is that he'd need to hit the ground running which he didn't last season upon his return.
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Having seen him last game of the season at Oldham when he ran the game, I agree. My view not just based on one game, I think Bigi still has the potential to be a good player.
 
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junglej13

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #19
Rose's injury could be a blessing in disguise. I was amazed at Mowbrays comment that we didnt need a right back last week. Also - The Telegraph article is slightly alarming that we basically don't know the prognosis on anyone who's injured.
 

stupot07

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #20
Sterling Archer said:
I know Bigi was not well received upon his return here (the first game back he looked like he had never played football before) but I genuinely thought he improved tenfold by the end of the season. If the deal works for both parties id bring him in, even just as another body in what is already a tiny squad struggling with injuries.

He's still young enough to improve and really isn't as bad as people would have you believe.

My only fear is that he'd need to hit the ground running which he didn't last season upon his return.
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To be honest, I'm not bigi's biggest fan but the reason I would not bring him in is a) he needs to go somewhere where he will play week in week out and get a 46 game season under his belt, with ghadzev and McCann he isn't going start. And b) the emergence of Stevenson has been one of the biggest positives this season, signing bigi will limit his game time and his development as bigi will become first sub/second choice.

I'd also add despite playing a few times there in newcastles u21's Bigi isnt a right back. He would also command a fee unless Newcastle are prepared to pay him out his contract (you'd have thought they would have already done that if they were desperate to get rid). Moneys tight and would be better spent elsewhere.

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georgehudson

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #21
quite right CD, the standard of officiating at league 1 level is poor,
imho, it is worse than ever,
the new referees directive is being misinterpreted by every ref i've seen this season, & it's the overall inconsistency of decisions that makes matters worse,
a few heads need to be banged together to knock out the seemingly smug assumptions that they, the ref's are getting it right, because quite frankly they are NOT
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #22
Bigi played right back regularly for Newcastle reserves or under 21s, whatever. A loan until xmas wouldn't be a bad idea. As for referees it's about time the leagues started looking at using foreign refs who have become far superior to the dross in the FL. I thought the refereeing in the Euros was excellent hardly any yellows, don't think there were any reds, matches flowed. English refs seem to put on their uniform become little Hitlers, not fit enough for our faster game.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #23
'Let's get Bigi in.'

Are you people on drugs?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #24
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
'Let's get Bigi in.'

Are you people on drugs?
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Seems that way.

Why get somebody in loan to play out of position? Why not just loan a RWB / RB?
 
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skybluepm2

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #25
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Big shame, was a very poor tackle that caused it as well!
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Which from memory went unpunished! Appalling refereeing as usual.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #26
Bloke on the telegraph saying we signed a crock.

Nothing to do with the slide tackle with the studs up, full force into his leg.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #27
Is Bigi still under contact to Newcastle or has he been released? Wouldn't be top of my list of players to bring in but I think there's a decent player at this level in there somewhere.
 
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stupot07

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #28
chiefdave said:
Is Bigi still under contact to Newcastle or has he been released? Wouldn't be top of my list of players to bring in but I think there's a decent player at this level in there somewhere.
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Hes still under contract for another 12 months.

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sw88

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #29
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Premier league it would have been a red.
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And analysed over and over, referee demoted as a punishment, retrospective action taken against their man (possibly, although ref did eventually blow up so maybe not).

One thing that annoys me in football is the lack of consistency in reviewing officials performance's.

In the premier league they have MOTM and Sky Sports coverage to raise anger around decisions.

Look at Costa over the past two weekends; all gone unpunished, but they have been highlighted atleast
 
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Gazolba

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #30
Bristol sky blue said:
Rose out injured for 'weeks, if not months'
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Shouldn't make a difference should it as most people on here said he was useless.
 

Nick

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #31
Gazolba said:
Shouldn't make a difference should it as most people on here said he was useless.
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I thought it would have been decent over the season at RWB. He would have chipped in with a few goals as well with the runs he was making.

At least it rules out his move to Australia!
 

Esoterica

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #32
Nick said:
I thought it would have been decent over the season at RWB. He would have chipped in with a few goals as well with the runs he was making.

At least it rules out his move to Australia!
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Maybe he's using this time to look for houses there...
 
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Nick

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #33
Esoterica said:
Maybe he's using this time to look for houses there...
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I reckon you could get that onto the phone in
 
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ceetee

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #34
In Mowbray's injury report on the offal there is no mention of Kwame Thomas. Has the club ever said what his injury is?
 

Esoterica

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  • Aug 23, 2016
  • #35
Nick said:
I reckon you could get that onto the phone in
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Listen out for me then, I go by the name of Jiggy. I asked Tony Mowbray if he'd ever been round Rose's house for tea and he said it was FAR away. So I reckon that means he's setting himself up for a move to Australia.
 
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