That's all it was?I believe the crowd were chanting about Lampard second half and he gave it back to them at the end. Their players then piled in...
28 shots, 3 on targetThere's no hopefully about it, of course Bristol were going to beat us!
It's Ashton Gate and we always write off all 12 points against yourselves and Bristol before a ball has been kicked...What form we're in...Doesn't matter. What form you guys or Bristol are in...Doesn't matter. The fact it's Cov or Bristol...Is the only thing that matters!
To reinforce it, here's the match stats from today... We may have battered them for the overwhelming majority of the game....But The Hoodoo trumps all!
Strangely enough, I feel quite positive after today. That's 2 of the guaranteed 4 cursed games out of the way now and if other sides think that they can overcome Hellball by setting up like Bristol City then we'll take them to the cleaners, yourselves excepted of course, simply because they're not Bristol City
Another reason for us to want to go up really as it's 6 points more we'll have a chance of fighting for. Have seen enough of them to know that without the power of the Hoodoo, they'll be too limited to overcome enough sides to get in the playoffs, never mind win them.
I have to confess to being worried about McGree going off injured though, but that's my only worry from today at least.
Well done with holding Saints back with 10 men though, it's showing another side to your game and one that's handy to have in the home straight...
What was all the handbags about at the end btw?
There's no hopefully about it, of course Bristol were going to beat us!
It's Ashton Gate and we always write off all 12 points against yourselves and Bristol before a ball has been kicked...What form we're in...Doesn't matter. What form you guys or Bristol are in...Doesn't matter. The fact it's Cov or Bristol...Is the only thing that matters!
To reinforce it, here's the match stats from today... We may have battered them for the overwhelming majority of the game....But The Hoodoo trumps all!
Strangely enough, I feel quite positive after today. That's 2 of the guaranteed 4 cursed games out of the way now and if other sides think that they can overcome Hellball by setting up like Bristol City then we'll take them to the cleaners, yourselves excepted of course, simply because they're not Bristol City
Another reason for us to want to go up really as it's 6 points more we'll have a chance of fighting for. Have seen enough of them to know that without the power of the Hoodoo, they'll be too limited to overcome enough sides to get in the playoffs, never mind win them.
I have to confess to being worried about McGree going off injured though, but that's my only worry from today at least.
Well done with holding Saints back with 10 men though, it's showing another side to your game and one that's handy to have in the home straight...
What was all the handbags about at the end btw?
I'm not really sure tbh.There's no hopefully about it, of course Bristol were going to beat us!
It's Ashton Gate and we always write off all 12 points against yourselves and Bristol before a ball has been kicked...What form we're in...Doesn't matter. What form you guys or Bristol are in...Doesn't matter. The fact it's Cov or Bristol...Is the only thing that matters!
To reinforce it, here's the match stats from today... We may have battered them for the overwhelming majority of the game....But The Hoodoo trumps all!
Strangely enough, I feel quite positive after today. That's 2 of the guaranteed 4 cursed games out of the way now and if other sides think that they can overcome Hellball by setting up like Bristol City then we'll take them to the cleaners, yourselves excepted of course, simply because they're not Bristol City
Another reason for us to want to go up really as it's 6 points more we'll have a chance of fighting for. Have seen enough of them to know that without the power of the Hoodoo, they'll be too limited to overcome enough sides to get in the playoffs, never mind win them.
I have to confess to being worried about McGree going off injured though, but that's my only worry from today at least.
Well done with holding Saints back with 10 men though, it's showing another side to your game and one that's handy to have in the home straight...
What was all the handbags about at the end btw?
Battered them for the overwhelming majority of the game yet only had 3 shots on target against their 8.To reinforce it, here's the match stats from today... We may have battered them for the overwhelming majority of the game....But The Hoodoo trumps all!
Hellball is far more focused on attack than defence under Edwards. It leaves us slightly weaker at the back, but a lot more likely to score a decent amount of goals? The formation is also vastly different, packing the advanced centre with bodies for more control further up as we always had the midfield to control a game anyway, it was the link to the strikers that was lacking.28 shots, 3 on target
Similar to when you played us, except you had considerably less shots of course. Is “Hellball” really that different so far or are the players just responding well to a new face?
Having seen the game we lost to Ipswich, I think we are a decent match for them and can get a result. Whether we do or not is another question!Hellball is far more focused on attack than defence under Edwards. It leaves us slightly weaker at the back, but a lot more likely to score a decent amount of goals? The formation is also vastly different, packing the advanced centre with bodies for more control further up as we always had the midfield to control a game anyway, it was the link to the strikers that was lacking.
The stats and results against yourselves and Brizzle would have been the same no matter if we brought in Pep to manage us and had Arsenal's front line playing ,because it's yourselves and Briatol City, that's the whole point. Most Boro fans write those four games off at the start of a season now because...well, thats just the way it is.
To compare, here's the Hellball stats when not playing a Hoodoo game... Away at a side in 4th, level on points with Ipswich, and who are generally considered superior to Bristol City this year... With the majority of those attacking stats just from the 1st half.
I'm not particularly worried about facing 21 teams in this league, there will be the odd result that goes against us outside yourselves and Bristol, but other than that we can be a match for any side when the old hocus pocus doesn't affect us.
My only slight concern is Ipswich going on an absolutely stupendous run, which they are capable of. But I'd fancy your lot to turn them over before New Years which should help put a stop to that nonsense.
Hoodoos are there to be broken, unless they’re at Deepdale which is genuinely invincible.Hellball is far more focused on attack than defence under Edwards. It leaves us slightly weaker at the back, but a lot more likely to score a decent amount of goals? The formation is also vastly different, packing the advanced centre with bodies for more control further up as we always had the midfield to control a game anyway, it was the link to the strikers that was lacking.
The stats and results against yourselves and Brizzle would have been the same no matter if we brought in Pep to manage us and had Arsenal's front line playing ,because it's yourselves and Briatol City, that's the whole point. Most Boro fans write those four games off at the start of a season now because...well, thats just the way it is.
To compare, here's the Hellball stats when not playing a Hoodoo game... Away at a side in 4th, level on points with Ipswich, and who are generally considered superior to Bristol City this year... With the majority of those attacking stats just from the 1st half.
I'm not particularly worried about facing 21 teams in this league, there will be the odd result that goes against us outside yourselves and Bristol, but other than that we can be a match for any side when the old hocus pocus doesn't affect us.
My only slight concern is Ipswich going on an absolutely stupendous run, which they are capable of. But I'd fancy your lot to turn them over before New Years at home like we did, which should help put a stop to that nonsense.
For one moment I thought I was teleported to a Sunderland forumThere's no hopefully about it, of course Bristol were going to beat us!
It's Ashton Gate and we always write off all 12 points against yourselves and Bristol before a ball has been kicked...What form we're in...Doesn't matter. What form you guys or Bristol are in...Doesn't matter. The fact it's Cov or Bristol...Is the only thing that matters!
To reinforce it, here's the match stats from today... We may have battered them for the overwhelming majority of the game....But The Hoodoo trumps all!
Strangely enough, I feel quite positive after today. That's 2 of the guaranteed 4 cursed games out of the way now and if other sides think that they can overcome Hellball by setting up like Bristol City then we'll take them to the cleaners, yourselves excepted of course, simply because they're not Bristol City
Another reason for us to want to go up really as it's 6 points more we'll have a chance of fighting for. Have seen enough of them to know that without the power of the Hoodoo, they'll be too limited to overcome enough sides to get in the playoffs, never mind win them.
I have to confess to being worried about McGree going off injured though, but that's my only worry from today at least.
Well done with holding Saints back with 10 men though, it's showing another side to your game and one that's handy to have in the home straight...
What was all the handbags about at the end btw?
I've got mixed feelings to be honest. Given the situation, it's a good point. Can't help thinking it would've been a comfortable 3 points with 11 on the pitch.Some draws feel like a win. Today was one of them. PUSB
Preston are notoriously a tough resilient nut to crack at home tbf, especially this season. But they could well be your version of our "Bristol City"...Hoodoos are there to be broken, unless they’re at Deepdale which is genuinely invincible.
I remember saying to you a while ago that between us we’ll fend off the parachute teams and having watched some of your games since the new chap came in, believe that’s what will happen.
Yeah, but when Dasilva got sent off and they scored quite quickly, I thought we were going to get steamrollered.I've got mixed feelings to be honest. Given the situation, it's a good point. Can't help thinking it would've been a comfortable 3 points with 11 on the pitch.
I have no axe to grind against any of the big 3 in the North East really, all were close to my grandad's heart (though Sunderland and Newcastle were slightly higher up the list for him) and he rotated between them every week from his home in Durham in the 40s and 50s. The top flight needs to revert back to how it was in the 90s for no reason other than my millennial nostalgia, none of this Bournemouth and Brentford shite.Preston are notoriously a tough resilient nut to crack at home tbf, especially this season. But they could well be your version of our "Bristol City"...
The law of averages state that they must end at some point, but it's always very, very unlikely, no matter what the strength of the relevant teams.
Tbf Middlesbrough fans are a pretty superstitious bunch. We've good reason to be though; aside from us strangely being the only side in the league with 13 letters in our name, we also had a curse placed on us by gypsies around the turn of the 20th Century, when we moved them from land that we were clearing to build Ayresome Park, amounting to the fact that we'd never win anything of note while playing there....True to form we'll be celebrating our 150 years at the end of this season and have spent the entirety of our time in the league in the top 2 divisions, barring 2 freak seasons in the 3rd tier...Yet have only won 1 major honour in that time, the league cup in 2004, less than a decade after we moved to the Riverside. For a side with that relative strength for such a period that is almost unheard of.
Wembley is cursed too. We've been there five times...and lost every single time. Even when we won the league cup it was moved to Cardiff as Wembley was getting redeveloped.
Our best ever seasons, we finished 3rd and 4th in the league and on both occasions were on the rise and installed as favourites to win the league title the following year? Those season were 1913/14 and 1938/39...which may ring a bell?
It's a foolish Boro fan that doesn't recognise the power of the hoodoo, superstition and curses...
Even if we try to play such a thing down beforehand in an attempt to dismiss it, it's overwhelmingly likely to come to no avail.
I'll win Miss World before we win there*.Preston are notoriously a tough resilient nut to crack at home tbf, especially this season. But they could well be your version of our "Bristol City"...
Southampton are falling behind even further. They now need to get 0.7 points a game more than us for the rest of the season. Each time they don't get a better result than us it gets bigger.I like Middlesbrough, hope they come up with us. I don’t count them myself becuase I’m confident we’ll finish above them.
for me it remains with what Ipswich do. I’m still wary of Southampton because they’re still a parachute team
the chase is on for 91 points 43 to go from 24 now. If we hit that we go up
When the chasing pack are 10 pts behind with 5 games to go. Every upcoming game is our toughest game yet.Southampton are falling behind even further. They now need to get 0.7 points a game more than us for the rest of the season. Each time they don't get a better result than us it gets bigger.
Ipswich still need 0.46 points more than us per game. Our upcoming game at our place is our most important game we have left of the season. Win this and it would take an utter disaster not to finish above them.
Who's going to be panic buying when the window opens? who'll swing it the most and who'll do it the best?DK.DA comes up with the goods again!When the chasing pack are 10 pts behind with 5 games to go. Every upcoming game is our toughest game yet.
Generally starting to believe now.... isit to soon
In some ways you are correct, others not so.
The main one not is in regards to Viveash. Along with Gibbo, Kieran Scott, our head of recruitment., hired Viveash personally, he was nothing to do with Edwards. Edwards brought his own man, Harry Watling with him, so when he displayed his Rodent-like qualities, Watling felt bound to go with him.
Viveash on the other hand was disgusted by his behaviour and vowed not only to stay put at a club he was clearly as comfortable at as yours, but to take over the caretaker manager role in the interim even if it was outside his comfort-zone. He's a man of honour and our fans feel a great affinity towards him.
In a way with a lot of the rest you are closer to the truth at least with regard to the way things unfolded with no foresight to their means; the fan base were galvanised as there's nothing like a common enemy to unite. The 4M of course is certainly not to be sniffed at, but if it had seriously screwed our season from where we were then it could feasibly have been a drop in the ocean. Though personally I think we'd have finished about 5th from there under Edwards had he stayed, with a good amount of that down to Viveash.
Hellberg looking for work of course was very good fortune, not down to Edwards who didn't give us a second thought.
I think both our squads in their current level would get relegated from the Prem as it stands (but of course we'd also both strengthen upon promotion), but nowhere near as embarrassingly as Wolves. * As a separate aside, it hasn't escaped our attention that a lot of the sides with eternal parachute payments, that seem to bounce up and down repeatedly between the divisions more than Ron Jeremy's mattress (Burnley, Sheff Utd, Leicester, yes I mean YOU) have little chance of staying up, the ones that do most often seem to be those that haven't had a stab at it for a while (Brentford, Brighton, Forest, most recently it looks like Sunderland), their battle is just getting there and it's high time we didn't have a single parachute sides going up just to shake things properly*
Wolves to be frank are abominable, and a lot of our fans are finding Edwards' car crash failure absolutely hilarious tbh. We also hold no regard for Jeff Shi who runs the show and want them to break Derby's record under his tenure as they go down. We were also hoping to get them in the FA Cup, but that was always a tall order!
We do feel somewhat sorry for Wolves fans, aside from a few gloating idiots, but tbh a period of complete collapse would probably speed up both charlatans out of their club in time as it often does and be better for them in the long run. The same way the making of our club in the modern age was us going down to the 3rd tier for the second season in our history and actually folding in 86, when an almost teenage looking Steve Gibson rallied a consortium to step in at the eleventh hour.
I can understand your being confident you're going to finish above us; six points is six points and you still have one of Boro's 4 hoodoo games a season to come to widen the gap by another 3 points.I like Middlesbrough, hope they come up with us. I don’t count them myself becuase I’m confident we’ll finish above them.
for me it remains with what Ipswich do. I’m still wary of Southampton because they’re still a parachute team
the chase is on for 91 points 43 to go from 24 now. If we hit that we go up
I think it’s the scenario we all think of our own teams “it’s cov innit” you are quite correct. in that history suggests you’ll also be going up.I can understand your being confident you're going to finish above us; six points is six points and you still have one of Boro's 4 hoodoo games a season to come to widen the gap by another 3 points.
What I can't for the life of me get is...Why you'd then be wary of Southampton?? Yeah, they"re a parachute sides and all that, but so are Ham sandwich face's Blades and I'd be truly perplexed if you were worried by them...
Look, Saints are 17 points behind you, we've both held them to a draw at St Mary's, yourselves with 10 men for most of the second half. Most Boro fans by and large have stopped giving a toss about their threat to us making the autos tbh as for them to somehow jump us would probably mean a few other sides had first anyway. And we're only 11 points ahead of them?
Ipswich we're certainly wary of for our autos bid, but not Southampton, not after today. Them trying to get the 3 points against your 10 men this weekend was pretty likely their "$hit, or get off the pot" time as far as the autos are concerned for them is our general consensus. Probably nailed on to make the playoffs mind.
0.48% but that’s without a points deductionNow do Lesta’s relegation odds please
I'll say it's madness.Title percentage gone down 85%
top 2 percentage gone up to 96.1%
It is madness
I guess they have to take account that Ipswich have tightened the gap on both of us?I'll say it's madness.
You've increased the gap on second by a point, so logically your title percentage should have gone up slightly.
The gap has decreased by a point to 3rd, so your top 2 percentage should have dropped just slightly.
Yet the opposite is the case!
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