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Rioch and Noon both gone (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Nov 25, 2013
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #36
I would be interested to know what people think Riochs job was? What's does being an Academy manager mean?
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #37
thanks for all the hard work Gregor and Mark but lets see how new guy does before we write it off as a terrible move.

perhaps new guy will teach the kids better technical skills at a younger age?

lets just hope it isnt a sign of academy in trouble.
 

lewys33

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #38
I think this was always on the cards when Murray came in. Gutted for them. Rioch did a brilliant job.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #39
covcity4life said:
thanks for all the hard work Gregor and Mark but lets see how new guy does before we write it off as a terrible move.

perhaps new guy will teach the kids better technical skills at a younger age?

lets just hope it isnt a sign of academy in trouble.
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Agree on all points...might bring even more to the Academy - I just know nothing about him.
 
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Ashdown1

New Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #40
Cost cutting ??
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #41
Have heard Rioch might be going to Liverpool? Just a rumour though.
 
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ArchieLittle

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #42
I heard that rumour too. The Liverpool job is certainly up for grabs

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ell-as-overhaul-at-youth-level-continues.html
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #43
ccfcway said:
Wasn't "the bomb squad" his 1st mistake by popular consensus ?
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I dunno. I still think we're missing the option of Edge and McSheffrey, but if the aim was to change the team spirit you can't really argue.

Even if the new guy is better, I think this is a shit way to treat someone who has been consistently a bright point in our club.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #44
I am guessing Pressely wants his ethos and style of play drilled into the players at every level.

Strange thing to do half way into a season. Surely the Summer is the time.

Should the focus not be on getting back to the Higgs then this.

Is what Pressley does with our first team the best way to develop young footballers or is it just a way of playing once your all round game has developed? I don't know.

How successful has our academy been
Level 2 status.

One player gone to the Prem where it seems he is not good enough yet.

The rest thrust into our first team too early and for too many games in the championship, due to our owners decisions.

Now they seem comfortable in Division 3

Is that what we should expect from a category 2 academy I genuinely don't know.

All I know us that the blue print suggests invest in the academy bring a player through sell him on.

Hence who runs the academy is probably the second most important staffing decision to make. They have realised this then made a change. Not sure what that says about the previous chaps
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #45
dongonzalos said:
I am guessing Pressely wants his ethos and style of play drilled into the players at every level.

Strange thing to do half way into a season. Surely the Summer is the time.

Should the focus not be on getting back to the Higgs then this.

Is what Pressley does with our first team the best way to develop young footballers or is it just a way of playing once your all round game has developed? I don't know.

How successful has our academy been
Level 2 status.

One player gone to the Prem where it seems he is not good enough yet.

The rest thrust into our first team too early and for too many games in the championship, due to our owners decisions.

Now they seem comfortable in Division 3

Is that what we should expect from a category 2 academy I genuinely don't know.

All I know us that the blue print suggests invest in the academy bring a player through sell him on.

Hence who runs the academy is probably the second most important staffing decision to make. They have realised this then made a change. Not sure what that says about the previous chaps
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That is IF he has been pushed though surely?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #46
shmmeee said:
I dunno. I still think we're missing the option of Edge and McSheffrey, but if the aim was to change the team spirit you can't really argue.

Even if the new guy is better, I think this is a shit way to treat someone who has been consistently a bright point in our club.
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I agree it would be shit if we had pushed him / sacked him.
 

covcity4life

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #47
shmmeee said:
I dunno. I still think we're missing the option of Edge and McSheffrey, but if the aim was to change the team spirit you can't really argue.

Even if the new guy is better, I think this is a shit way to treat someone who has been consistently a bright point in our club.
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we have never scored so many goals,we are not missing mchseffrey
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #48
Nick said:
That is IF he has been pushed though surely?
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Yes very good point.

We have not heard from them yet.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #49
dongonzalos said:
Yes very good point.

We have not heard from them yet.
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If he has been pushed then we need to know why.

If he has gone because he has a new job for a bigger club, for more money and more prospects then good luck to him.
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #50
Whilst I too would be extremely disappointed to see Rioch go, I am yet to see anything official, so unless i am missing it can anyone clarify if it has been confirmed yet?
 

ohitsaidwalker king power

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #51
If true..

The King is dead..... long live the King (no Elvis pun intended).
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #52
It's worth pointing out a few things.
1. The EPP academy system is in its infancy and the effects of the scheme won't be seen for a while. Levels are determined by how much clubs can afford to invest in it rather than any reflection of the quality of current academies.
2. Some players have been fast-tracked into the first team squad due to financial constraints and transfer embargoes etc. Fortunately it has been fairly successful to date.
3. It's worth remembering that the academy was a complete mess before Rioch arrived.
4. Rioch reckons he's got a few more players in the system ready to make the step up.

Personally I think losing Rioch would be a blow. It's a reflection of the job he has done that the team is doing relatively well at the moment.
 

Skyblueweeman

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #53
italiahorse said:
Why change a winning format?
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Southampton fans said that when Adkins was sacked....

WM
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #54
Looks as if this is true

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/football-news/gregor-rioch-step-down-manager-6342765

It would be lovely to go for a while without more bad news. Post to be filled from within apparently.
 

ccfc92

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #55
Very strange and out of the blue :/ hope it brings a positive change
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #56
Development director Steve Waggott said Rioch’s assistant, Richard Stevens, will step into the role of Academy manager
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What's this Murray chap doing then?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #57
ajsccfc said:
What's this Murray chap doing then?
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Something extraordinary has obviously happened with Rioch. Who knows. He may have walked for a better opportunity elsewhere.

To answer the question, U18s coach.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #58
So he is moving on? Doesn't read like he has been pushed?
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #59
sounds like hes left rather than pushed if we are promoting assistant?
 

lewys33

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #60
Yh just read the story on the CCFC website and Waggott says he tried to keep him, but it was a personal decision to go on to a new challenge. Doesn't say anything about where he is going.
 

ajsccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #61
Best of luck to him in that case. I'd trust that part of the good job he did was to have a system in place that allows his assistant to step up seamlessly, fingers crossed.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #62
lewys33 said:
Yh just read the story on the CCFC website and Waggott says he tried to keep him, but it was a personal decision to go on to a new challenge. Doesn't say anything about where he is going.
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Just wonder if this Story that came out of Newcastle and Bigi played any role in this??
 

duffer

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #63
I blame SISU.

Just kidding - I think whoever the owners are this kind of thing happens in football if you're a success, and the Academy is a success.

I suspect he'll pop up at a 'bigger' club sometime soon. If he doesn't, then maybe there is room for speculation around the current issues, but until then I'm guessing it's mostly about salary.
 
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lewys33

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #64
duffer said:
I blame SISU.
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Don't worry I took out the less important part of that statement for all
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #65
covcity4life said:
sounds like hes left rather than pushed if we are promoting assistant?
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Murray wasn't his assistant. Stevens was and imo has been as important as GR in developing and bringing through the local talent. Must say I'm not surprised, over the past few months I've got the impression that this has been coming.
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #66
wingy said:
Just wonder if this Story that came out of Newcastle and Bigi played any role in this??
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Whats all that about?
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #67
SkyBlueScottie said:
Whats all that about?
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Just thinking outside the box,that article a couple of weeks back re; Bigi coming on loan,wondering if Rioch may have been the conduit.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #68
RIOCH YOU TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!

mark robins....mark two?:guitar2:
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #69
wingy said:
Just thinking outside the box,that article a couple of weeks back re; Bigi coming on loan,wondering if Rioch may have been the conduit.
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Why on earth would that have anything to do with this?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 26, 2013
  • #70
shmmeee said:
I dunno. I still think we're missing the option of Edge and McSheffrey, but if the aim was to change the team spirit you can't really argue.

Even if the new guy is better, I think this is a shit way to treat someone who has been consistently a bright point in our club.
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I think it was Edge for one of the goals Bury conceded on Saturday who was practically waving the opposition though in an effort that makes Webster look like Des Walker in his prime! He had some decent games for us and is an older head, but he wasn't good enough.
 
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