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Otis

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #106
Nick said:
Where are the fans saying wasps had no choice to move and what are they saying now ccfc have no choice? They are backing it fully I guess?
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I do remember a lot of Wasps fans saying they weren't happy with the move up here when it was announced.
 

Nick

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #107
Otis said:
I do remember a lot of Wasps fans saying they weren't happy with the move up here when it was announced.
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I mean our fans who said they had no choice so it was do that or go bust.

Look where we are now, are those fans saying the same?
 

Otis

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #108
Nick said:
I mean our fans who said they had no choice so it was do that or go bust.

Look where we are now, are those fans saying the same?
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Me and you both know, so many fans are fickle.

I am still trying to get my head around City fans buying ST's for Wasps games.
 

Nick

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #109
Otis said:
Me and you both know, so many fans are fickle.

I am still trying to get my head around City fans buying ST's for Wasps games.
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That's not just fickle though.
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #110
Nick said:
That's not just fickle though.
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I know. Just saying fans are a weird bunch.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #111
Chris West pushing the "SISU had plenty of opportunities to buy it" fallacy on Twitter.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #112
The pr has been in overdrive for ages, it made it obvious.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #113
Have you ever read anything as illogical as this?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #114
Why would a lower rent from ccfc to ACL be state aid?

All those accounts are trying to do is confuse and mislead to get people worked up.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #115
Nick said:
Why would a lower rent from ccfc to ACL be state aid?

All those accounts are trying to do is confuse and mislead to get people worked up.
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At least he admits that CCFC were paying the mortgage for ACL and exposes what a joke of a deal it was.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #116
fernandopartridge said:
At least he admits that CCFC were paying the mortgage for ACL and exposes what a joke of a deal it was.
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True, that's ccfc's fault though for agreeing to it remember

Those accounts seem very desperate
 

SBAndy

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #117
fernandopartridge said:
Have you ever read anything as illogical as this?
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Has anyone highlighted that he seems to know an awful lot about the deal for a Chris W that wasn’t fully involved in it?
 

Nick

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #118
SBAndy said:
Has anyone highlighted that he seems to know an awful lot about the deal for a Chris W that wasn’t fully involved in it?
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And for somebody who couldn't tell you a ccfc player.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #119
SBAndy said:
Has anyone highlighted that he seems to know an awful lot about the deal for a Chris W that wasn’t fully involved in it?
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He's not even pretending he wasn't now tbh
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #120
fernandopartridge said:
He's not even pretending he wasn't now tbh
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They all slip up in the end, they can't help it.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #121
fernandopartridge said:
Have you ever read anything as illogical as this?
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I had to check that wasn't a parody account. What an idiot.
Nick said:
Why would a lower rent from ccfc to ACL be state aid?
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His thinking seems to be that selling ACL with a 250 year lease to Wasps at £6.3m (£25K a year if you choose to look at it that way) is definitely not state aid but charging CCFC less than £1.3m for 23 days a year would be state aid. Truly bizarre. It would be incredibly difficult to prove a lower rate was not market value given what we know about other clubs rent.
SBAndy said:
Has anyone highlighted that he seems to know an awful lot about the deal for a Chris W that wasn’t fully involved in it?
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Definitely not the same person of course. If you suggest that its tin foil hat time.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #122
Otis said:
I do remember a lot of Wasps fans saying they weren't happy with the move up here when it was announced.
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Really? I can recall many people, myself included, saying they would happily join Wasps protests but none materialise. Can't remember them holding marches similar to the two we held or protesters outside the ground at every game.

Not to say 100% of the fanbase was happy but they didn't exactly come across as up in arms.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #123
chiefdave said:
I had to check that wasn't a parody account. What an idiot.

His thinking seems to be that selling ACL with a 250 year lease to Wasps at £6.3m (£25K a year if you choose to look at it that way) is definitely not state aid but charging CCFC less than £1.3m for 23 days a year would be state aid. Truly bizarre. It would be incredibly difficult to prove a lower rate was not market value given what we know about other clubs rent.

Definitely not the same person of course. If you suggest that its tin foil hat time.
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Why would a deal between ACL and CCFC be state aid anyway even if the rent was free?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #124
Nick said:
Why would a deal between ACL and CCFC be state aid anyway even if the rent was free?
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I would guess it could become state aid if the lower rent meant ACL had to be bailed out by CCC. However you could easily argue that wasn't down to the rent and down to other aspects of the business.

The biggest issue is someone would have to instigate the action. If CCC had said rent was £1 a year who would have taken legal action to claim it was state aid?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #125
chiefdave said:
I would guess it could become state aid if the lower rent meant ACL had to be bailed out by CCC. However you could easily argue that wasn't down to the rent and down to other aspects of the business.

The biggest issue is someone would have to instigate the action. If CCC had said rent was £1 a year who would have taken legal action to claim it was state aid?
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That would still not be state aid to CCFC though.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #126
Nick said:
That would still not be state aid to CCFC though.
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Well no it would be state aid to ACL. Are you suggesting Chris West is talking bollocks?
 
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  • Jun 9, 2019
  • #127
chiefdave said:
I can recall many people, myself included, saying they would happily join Wasps protests but none materialise
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Well where the hell were they all the other weekend?!?
 
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skyblue025

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 10, 2019
  • #128
Grendel said:
No they didn’t
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They paid it to the council and refinanced it if you want to be pedantic.
 
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