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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #211
Liquid Gold said:
That's a first
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I like Simon - he’s a cautious journalist who ensures he has stories checked before releasing them and he was pretty good at being clear about the issues rather than parroting the mantra of get ccfc home Sisu that cwr started
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #212
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
If we return and stay up with the rent likely to be lower than 1.2 million - would SISu technically have us in a better place then when they found us?
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Still a couple of questions for me about the stability of that situation.

Are we more or less stable as a Championship club than when they took us over? Debatable both ways.

Will the crowds be the same? Time will tell.

How secure are we in building a stadium and having a deal until that’s stable until then? Again time will tell.

Keep us up and get us into a new ground or in some way make the Ricoh equally beneficial and yeah I’d say so. It’s been a long old road with a lot of pain along the way to move slightly forwards though.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #213
shmmeee said:
Still a couple of questions for me about the stability of that situation.

Are we more or less stable as a Championship club than when they took us over? Debatable both ways.

Will the crowds be the same? Time will tell.

How secure are we in building a stadium and having a deal until that’s stable until then? Again time will tell.

Keep us up and get us into a new ground or in some way make the Ricoh equally beneficial and yeah I’d say so. It’s been a long old road with a lot of pain along the way to move slightly forwards though.
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And some awful mistakes but not many in the last 4 years
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #214
Sky Blue Pete said:
I like Simon - he’s a cautious journalist who ensures he has stories checked before releasing them and he was pretty good at being clear about the issues rather than parroting the mantra of get ccfc home Sisu that cwr started
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Now you're in the inner circle you can't shit on your mates is it?
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #215
rexo87 said:



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I desire to be a millionaire and build my own empire... I've had that desire for a good 20 years... Hasn't happened won't happen
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #216
Liquid Gold said:
Now you're in the inner circle you can't shit on your mates is it?
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Lol I dream of being in any inner circle. It’s interesting how things work and you always have to suspect that there is a reason you are being used. At some point I’ll write some of it down and look back and think wow.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #217
I can confirm there are rumours about a return to the Ricoh
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #218
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
If we return and stay up with the rent likely to be lower than 1.2 million - would SISu technically have us in a better place then when they found us?
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I would not think so. The balance sheet is an insolvent business and set in a way that they can call all the shots even I assume in another administration

There is also the issue of 13 years decline and lost revenue due to incompetent leadership. The real worry is that they are showing zero signs of departing either.

No doubt another 4 year deal looms and it’s rinse and repeat in 4 years time

Frankly if they have funds for the stadium they way as well make an offer the the one already in Coventry - it won’t cost any more - almost certainly a lot less
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #219
Grendel said:
I would not think so. The balance sheet is an insolvent business and set in a way that they can call all the shots even I assume in another administration

There is also the issue of 13 years decline and lost revenue due to incompetent leadership. The real worry is that they are showing zero signs of departing either.

No doubt another 4 year deal looms and it’s rinse and repeat in 4 years time

Frankly if they have funds for the stadium they way as well make an offer the the one already in Coventry - it won’t cost any more - almost certainly a lot less
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Would CCC allow that?
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #220
Samo said:
Would CCC allow that?
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I don’t see how you could stop it - purchase of shares in a private limited company
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #221
Seeing actual fans on Twitter not wanting us playing back in Coventry at the Ricoh looool, we’re Coventry not Birmingham
 
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Lord_Nampil

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #222
Accounts due this week aren’t they.... statement about going concern probably needed, or new to Ricoh agreement signed
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #223
pastythegreat said:
I want to buy the club, but not if they're renting from Blues. ONLY if they are renting from a rugby club from London. Until.that happens, there's no deal.
what a sack of shit.

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absolutely no two ways about it. we're a more attractive proposition for a perspective buyer when we're based in Cov, even if we're renting from that mob.
I don't like it anymore than you but it's mad to suggest otherwise.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #224
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Seeing actual fans on Twitter not wanting us playing back in Coventry at the Ricoh looool, we’re Coventry not Birmingham
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we won't be anything if we don't get back to Cov.
It's our best chance of a future. I've said it many times, don't like the Ricoh and hate wasps but the clubs survival and ability to grow and develop depends on it.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #225
Liquid Gold said:
That's a first
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it's usually interlocking

 

Old Warwickshire lad

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #226
SG21 said:
Return to the Ricoh?

No, rather we had highfield road. The ricoh has no atmosphere, clearly wasn't within the clubs interests or within an affordable price and because it's so far away from the city and the streets, it's a boring pain in the arse to get to.
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The only thing wrong with the RICOH is that we can’t fill it.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #227
Warwickshire lad said:
The only thing wrong with the RICOH is that we can’t fill it.
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And it’s a London rugby club’s stadium?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #228
shmmeee said:
Still a couple of questions for me about the stability of that situation.

Are we more or less stable as a Championship club than when they took us over? Debatable both ways.

Will the crowds be the same? Time will tell.

How secure are we in building a stadium and having a deal until that’s stable until then? Again time will tell.

Keep us up and get us into a new ground or in some way make the Ricoh equally beneficial and yeah I’d say so. It’s been a long old road with a lot of pain along the way to move slightly forwards though.
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Grendel said:
I would not think so. The balance sheet is an insolvent business and set in a way that they can call all the shots even I assume in another administration

There is also the issue of 13 years decline and lost revenue due to incompetent leadership. The real worry is that they are showing zero signs of departing either.

No doubt another 4 year deal looms and it’s rinse and repeat in 4 years time

Frankly if they have funds for the stadium they way as well make an offer the the one already in Coventry - it won’t cost any more - almost certainly a lot less
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I more hopeful that they’d look to sell, given a return to the Ricoh and possible championship football. Would this be at the top of the cycle?
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #229
Sick Boy said:
And it’s a London rugby club’s stadium?
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There are many things wrong with the Ricoh but yes this is the biggest one
 
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AOM

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #230
Liquid Gold said:
I had a dream we were back at the ricoh, the match day experience had improved with Wasps giving us more options in the concourse and it had more CCFC signage around but when I went up the steps someone was in my seat.

It’s 100% happening based on this dream alone.
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Haha completely forgot we were only ever given access to Twirl bars and Heineken that had been sat out for ages at the Ricoh.

Hopefully can use them all and get an actual decent pint if we're to go back
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #231
Evo1883 said:
I desire to be a millionaire and build my own empire... I've had that desire for a good 20 years... Hasn't happened won't happen
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Once we're back in Cov they can bang on about building a new stadium all they want, it just becomes background noise.
 
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lordy_87

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #232
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Seeing actual fans on Twitter not wanting us playing back in Coventry at the Ricoh looool, we’re Coventry not Birmingham
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Absolute plebs mate
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #233
Grendel said:
I would not think so. The balance sheet is an insolvent business and set in a way that they can call all the shots even I assume in another administration

There is also the issue of 13 years decline and lost revenue due to incompetent leadership. The real worry is that they are showing zero signs of departing either.

No doubt another 4 year deal looms and it’s rinse and repeat in 4 years time

Frankly if they have funds for the stadium they way as well make an offer the the one already in Coventry - it won’t cost any more - almost certainly a lot less
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It’s not for sale
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #234
Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s not for sale
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So if someone offered £100m for the shares wasps holdings would not sell?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #235
Grendel said:
So if someone offered £100m for the shares wasps holdings would not sell?
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The football club is not going to pay over the odds for it, I hope.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #236
Sick Boy said:
The football club is not going to pay over the odds for it, I hope.
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The point is of course every thing is for sale
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #237
Grendel said:
So if someone offered £100m for the shares wasps holdings would not sell?
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They won’t
 
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Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #238
Sky Blue Pete said:
They won’t
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If somebody offered me 500k for my 280k house I'd sell it immediately (it's not 280k just a way of.... You know)
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #239
Grendel said:
The point is of course every thing is for sale
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Yeah, but we'd likely have to pay way more than it's worth.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #240
Grendel said:
I don’t see how you could stop it - purchase of shares in a private limited company
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Wouldn't they have a say about the transfer of the lease?
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #241
Sick Boy said:
The football club is not going to pay over the odds for it, I hope.
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Of all the things we could argue about on here I don't think we need to waste our time on what would happen if Sepalla offered £100m for the Ricoh!
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #242
chiefdave said:
Of all the things we could argue about on here I don't think we need to waste our time on what would happen if Sepalla offered £100m for the Ricoh!
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They would say no to a billion according to Pete
 

Skyblue_CP

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #243
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not for most
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I was being sarcastic, dw
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #244
Skyblue_CP said:
Tbf, it is easier to get to St Andrews
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Support Birmingham then.
 
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Deleted member 11652

Guest
  • Feb 27, 2021
  • #245
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Seeing actual fans on Twitter not wanting us playing back in Coventry at the Ricoh looool, we’re Coventry not Birmingham
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And you’re a leicester fan now?
 
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