Sky Blue Pete
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Or the tax authorities
Or the tax authoritiesOr any problems with our players being paid......
Even after it’s pointed out that Northampton and Birmingham and every player and manager and the tax authorities have never had an issue you still say that Sisu don’t pay money when asked. OkIn a general reply I think people should read Justice Higinbottoms Judgement 30/06/2014 and read paticuler paragraphs 37 on ward (sorry don't know how to bring this up) .I agree with Sky Blue Dreamer when it comes to money on table Sisu run away.As for never being offered a lower rent deal somewhere in his report I think I saw a head of terms of £40,000 mentioned.
Course it doesn’t put money on the table but of course they could have backed the clubYou state Northhampton and Birmingham and the tax if we didn't pay any of those we would not have been playing.Selling they may have backed the wrong horse but if 1 is not in the race ie"We are going to build our own Stadium"you cannot back it. Civil conversation you could have 1 with anyone it doesn't put money on the table .
In a general reply I think people should read Justice Higinbottoms Judgement 30/06/2014 and read paticuler paragraphs 37 on ward (sorry don't know how to bring this up) .I agree with Sky Blue Dreamer when it comes to money on table Sisu run away.As for never being offered a lower rent deal somewhere in his report I think I saw a head of terms of £400,000 mentioned.
So it was only that particular instance that turns out CCC and ACL weren't going to do a deal anyway? Everybody else has been paid?You state Northhampton and Birmingham and the tax if we didn't pay any of those we would not have been playing.Selling they may have backed the wrong horse but if 1 is not in the race ie"We are going to build our own Stadium"you cannot back it. Civil conversation you could have 1 with anyone it doesn't put money on the table .
Nick post 216 paragraph74 post 217 .When we went into administration a few local companies didn't get paid I think they perhaps should have handled the sale better read my post WE said were not in the race therefore we cannot win.
Nick sorry I said in post 212 old git here don't know how to do this.Takes me all my time to hit the right keys .
luwalla.WE said we did not want the Stadium taking Susi's analogie they would had to have took us to court if we sold it for less.(State aid) By the way like many City fans I don't live in the city
It seems like it. The pr job worked a treat.Some people made their mind up about sisu and have ignored the evidence that has come to light in the last few years.
I agree we need a ground in side or outside the City show me where the first brick has been put in 7 vears since they said we don't want the Ricoh.As for relationships we shook hand on a deal that included some f and b in it for £400000 and walked away by the way if the Ricoh did Implode you would foot the bill.Councils all over the country do multi million pound deal every day of the week but they have advisers If I remember any dealing done by the council were unanimous not just LucasThe council don't give a flying fuck about the club. The fact that councilor's are left to decide multi million pound deals is a joke, running a fucking corner shop does not give you the business acumen needed to make informed decisions when your dealing with companies that do it for a living. Lucas started the poisoning of the relationship with the them against us and then the tribal nature of politics took hold. As someone stated earlier we need a ground outside the city limits and let the Ricoh and the Wasps implode.
Which rent deal was that?I agree we need a ground in side or outside the City show me where the first brick has been put in 7 vears since they said we don't want the Ricoh.As for relationships we shook hand on a deal that included some f and b in it for £400000 and walked away by the way if the Ricoh did Implode you would foot the bill.Councils all over the country do multi million pound deal every day of the week but they have advisers If I remember any dealing done by the council were unanimous not just Lucas
Going off to cry to my twitter friends because I can't formulate an argument over 240 characters and when I do I get destroyed.
So you are referring to this... where Joy sepalla said the club weren’t prepared to move forward on a deal unless the club owned A STAKE in ACL... so the council then sold ALL of ACL to a rugby club from London ?Liquid Gold and Nick if you mean me I have taken my infomation from a legal paper as for what deal ?1 to rent the Area as i already said and I will say again paragraph 74 Justice Hickinbottoms judgment Sky Blue Sport and Leisure V Coventry Council 30/06/ 2014
luwalla no offence taken
How would I foot the bill exactly? Everything reverts back to the council if Wasps go tits they purchased a lease for an extended period. The council have helped Wasps at every juncture in this city to be successful at the expense of the club you support but you side with the council.I agree we need a ground in side or outside the City show me where the first brick has been put in 7 vears since they said we don't want the Ricoh.As for relationships we shook hand on a deal that included some f and b in it for £400000 and walked away by the way if the Ricoh did Implode you would foot the bill.Councils all over the country do multi million pound deal every day of the week but they have advisers If I remember any dealing done by the council were unanimous not just Lucas
I would reply but blocked because he didn't like his made up stuff correcting.Going off to cry to my twitter friends because I can't formulate an argument over 240 characters and when I do I get destroyed.
Proper playground shit.
What annoys me is they talk like sisu took over a well run club to start with, but it was a basket case long before they got hearGoing off to cry to my twitter friends because I can't formulate an argument over 240 characters and when I do I get destroyed.
Proper playground shit.
So you are referring to this... where Joy sepalla said the club weren’t prepared to move forward on a deal unless the club owned A STAKE in ACL... so the council then sold ALL of ACL to a rugby club from London ?
Is this the part of the judgement that’s meant to make us think the council were justified in what they did ?
“After the Council had purchased the Bank debt, thereby resolving that immediate sticking point, negotiations over rent continued between CCFC and ACL. On 29 January 2013, Heads of Terms were agreed, involving rent at £400,000 from 1 January 2013 with an agreement on arrears taking into account a reduced escrow account sum (which left arrears of about £0.5m to be paid) and an in-principle agreement for CCFC to benefit from match-day food and beverage revenues and ACL paying a larger share of the rates on the Arena. The Directors of CCFC and ACL representatives shook hands on that; but the deal was rejected on 4 February 2013 by Ms Seppala (who, as described by Mr Thompson, “sat at the top of the tree in terms of [SISU] decision making”) on the basis that she was not prepared to accept any deal that excluded SISU from holding a stake in ACL.
if they were prepared to sell ACL in its entirety to wasps, then why was asking for simply a part of ACL unreasonable for the Football club... who incidentally already Invested heavily in the site/ project ?
Related to this topic, I think the last thing we need is a stadium outside the city boundaries. I would say the Ricoh is borderline acceptable as realistically, how many fans do we have beyond Bedworth and Nuneaton as a percentage of our fanbase? The South and West of the city is the only direction you can go in without encountering another team within a 30 minute drive. Any suggestion that we should move out of Coventry could be folly and rightly or wrongly, (and given the likelihood of finding a legitimate plot of land within it, and not a pie in the sky suggestion of somewhere like Ikea, Pool Meadow, Hearsall Common or what would be a woefully inadequate Butts); sadly, the only real option is the Ricoh. A final word, I’m not for seeing people’s jobs put at risk, but the sooner Wasps bugger off and the old guard at CCC retire, the better.
What annoys me is they talk like sisu took over a well run club to start with, but it was a basket case long before they got hear
How much money have SISU actually paid towards purchasing the ground in all the years they've been here? None. Zip. Nada. Square root of fuck all.
Until that changes prove to me they DON'T want it for free. Not words saying they'll do something - actual cash changing hands.
I got bored after the claim the club were offered a lower rental deal as they were not - there are so many inaccuracies here I cannot be bothered
Perhaps you'd like to explain how the rent was set as it was in the first place?
Would that be showing SISU agreeing to pay a price for something and then reneging and changing it to a much lower price? My, I am shocked! How did this happen?
Oh, because it's what always happens when they're involved.
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