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Request to waive NDA - email to Wasps, CCFC & Sisu (1 Viewer)

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ccfcway

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #36
mark82 said:
Wasps could sue them.
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Could we ask if they indemnify us for that ?
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #37
shmmeee said:
What damages would be incurred?
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Wasps could sue for any harm done to them which would probably be reputational. They would determine the damages and then have to prove them.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #38
skyblueelephant76 said:
Wasps could sue for any harm done to them which would probably be reputational. They would determine the damages and then have to prove them.
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Can you do reputational harm with true facts?
 

skyblueelephant76

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #39
shmmeee said:
Can you do reputational harm with true facts?
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You can if it wasn't supposed to be made public because you had an NDA
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #40
skyblueelephant76 said:
You can if it wasn't supposed to be made public because you had an NDA
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Honest questions, I don't know NDA law. Usually it's used for shit like 'don't tell people what our console looks like in case it's copied' or 'don't tell people how we make KFC'. You can see the damage caused there.

I wonder how much you'd be talking if damages were awarded, might be a price worth paying.
 

skyblueelephant76

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #41
shmmeee said:
Honest questions, I don't know NDA law. Usually it's used for shit like 'don't tell people what our console looks like in case it's copied' or 'don't tell people how we make KFC'. You can see the damage caused there.

I wonder how much you'd be talking if damages were awarded, might be a price worth paying.
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Wasps would have to show how they'd been damaged and would sue for what they claimed they'd lost. There is also the possibility that the NDA contains an amount to be paid if it is broken.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #42
shmmeee said:
What have I said Nick?
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shmmeee said:
That's not even close to true. But I'm not here for a fight. I'm here to support this statement. Pick a fight another time.
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That's the new thing. Spout some shit and then say "I'm not here for a fight" when people disagree.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #43
Nick said:
That's the new thing. Spout some shit and then say "I'm not here for a fight" when people disagree.
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Please quote where I said Wasps statement wasn't vague or kindly shut the fuck up. That's the new thing. Put up or fuck off. Hope you like it.

I'll help you out. You can't. Your reading comprehension has failed you again. I said 'I'm sick of vague PR statements' Eso replied 'Wasps is the only vague one' I replied 'that's not close to true' as in 'all statements are vague'. You misread as 'Wasps statement isn't vague' which makes no sense, as I'd just expressed frustration with all the vague statements. Then you acted a prick. Again. Because I said something and you've scared off every other fucker who disagrees with you so now I'm your proxy. Take it up with your therapist, not my monkey.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #44
Council pricks wont reply

Send them that rickroll virus
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #45
shmmeee said:
Please quote where I said Wasps statement wasn't vague or kindly shut the fuck up. That's the new thing. Put up or fuck off. Hope you like it.
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Erm, I put up what you said. You don't seem willing to discuss or expand on your own point.

"I don't want a fight".
 

AStonesThrow

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #46
shmmeee said:
Honest questions, I don't know NDA law. Usually it's used for shit like 'don't tell people what our console looks like in case it's copied' or 'don't tell people how we make KFC'. You can see the damage caused there.

I wonder how much you'd be talking if damages were awarded, might be a price worth paying.
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #47
shmmeee said:
That's not even close to true. But I'm not here for a fight. I'm here to support this statement. Pick a fight another time.
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You're saying the Dave Boddy statement this evening stating they have evidence to back their argument is euqlly vauge with the Wasps statement?

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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #48
covcity4life said:
Council pricks wont reply

Send them that rickroll virus
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Sent from my I3113 using Tapatalk
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #49
Club has come out all guns blazing and Joy is happy to chat. Boddy says we have evidence. This could be an absolute PR nightmare for Wasps now. Let’s not fuck about. This is a war.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #50
Fuck the NDA lets see all
 

tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #51
Nick said:
Wait until the CCC hitmen find them.

Good job PWKH isn't involved now, they would have his bellend grandson or nephew threatening that they wouldn't like his family of lawyers when they get angry, like I did.

Hi if you are reading.

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Should still be hanging his head in shame.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #52
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Club has come out all guns blazing and Joy is happy to chat. Boddy says we have evidence. This could be an absolute PR nightmare for Wasps now. Let’s not fuck about. This is a war.
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... An ugly war of attrition that damages all parties involved.

Perhaps I am naive, but in the last couple of years, I do believe that our cause is a righteous one with every passing PR spat.

We need progress on our proposed stadium
project this year. No excuses! Yes, I am aware that I’m repeating this point ad nauseam.

So long any progress is made on this new stadium, I can tolerate exile from Coventry and the on-the-field impacts they have. Brighton endured the hardship, perhaps we can too.
 
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skybluepm2

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #53
mark82 said:
Below email sent to Joy Seppala, Dave Boddy, Nick Eastwood, Stephen Vaughan, Derek Richardson earlier today........

Dear all

In February this year we decided that, in the absence of adequate fan representation, we could no longer wait for wait for events to play out so we looked to speak to all involved parties, along with other local and regional individuals with influence, to get all parties to a position where an agreement could be made for Coventry City Football Club to play in the city that bears its name.

Today we are in the position where both parties have put out contradictory statements about why an agreement hasn’t been possible, and this makes it really difficult for supporters to know exactly what has happened and why an agreement hasn’t been possible for next season. So, in the spirit of transparency, we are asking both parties if they are prepared to waive the non-disclosure agreements so that supporters, local businesses and citizens of Coventry alike can be presented with raw facts to enable all to clearly see why these decisions have been taken.

Thank you

Pete & Mark
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Fair play Mark and Pete. Well done guys. We deserve to know the truth.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #54
mark82 said:
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Love how Joy hit reply all to the other mugs.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #55
Mucca Mad Boys said:
... An ugly war of attrition that damages all parties involved.

Perhaps I am naive, but in the last couple of years, I do believe that our cause is a righteous one with every passing PR spat.

We need progress on our proposed stadium
project this year. No excuses! Yes, I am aware that I’m repeating this point ad nauseam.

So long any progress is made on this new stadium, I can tolerate exile from Coventry and the on-the-field impacts they have. Brighton endured the hardship, perhaps we can too.
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If there is regular communication on the proposed site and then the whole process to build the stadium then a lot more fans will be onboard and support the boys in Brum.

This could...and I emphasise could.... be the moment the vast majority of the fan base is reunited and behind the clubs direction of travel.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2020
  • #56
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Love how Joy hit reply all to the other mugs.
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If Joy is willing to drop the NDA and Boddy claiming they/we have the evidence to back our claims. It would suggest that between ourselves and Wasps, we are the party that is the most truthful.

It could be all bluffs. In which case, I expect Wasps to call it and drop the NDA.

We shall see.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #57
AFCCOVENTRY said:
If there is regular communication on the proposed site and then the whole process to build the stadium then a lot more fans will be onboard and support the boys in Brum.

This could...and I emphasise could.... be the moment the vast majority of the fan base is reunited and behind the clubs direction of travel.
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100% agreed.

This is essential. The RICOH project has utterly failed. I was of the view that we could coexist with Wasps in a consensual, and mutually beneficial relationship. Now, I am of the view that this is inherently impossible in the current circumstance.

It is time for the club to forge its own destiny and if our owners want the fans onboard, they need to keep us updated on every step of the program. Most importantly, tangible progress is needed too.

Frankly, I believe the community of SBT (as in the forum), potentially led by @Sky Blue Pete and @mark82 and/or anyone willing to do it, should organise something resembling a supporters Trust.

The Sky Blues Trust just doesn’t seem up to the task.
 
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mr_monkey

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #58
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
100% agreed.

This is essential. The RICOH project has utterly failed. I was of the view that we could coexist with Wasps in a consensual, and mutually beneficial relationship. Now, I am of the view that this is inherently impossible in the current circumstance.

It is time for the club to forge its own destiny and if our owners want the fans onboard, they need to keep us updated on every step of the program. Most importantly, tangible progress is needed too.

Frankly, I believe the community of SBT (as in the forum), potentially led by @Sky Blue Pete and @mark82 and/or anyone willing to do it, should organise something resembling a supporters Trust.

The Sky Blues Trust just doesn’t seem up to the task.
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I can't believe I'm saying this but tbf to the trust the stuff they said on the radio and their reply to the wasps tweet today at least show a slight change of tact, don't get me wrong they still have a mountain to climb but at least the sign of some willing seems to be there
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #59
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If Joy is willing to drop the NDA and Boddy claiming they/we have the evidence to back our claims. It would suggest that between ourselves and Wasps, we are the party that is the most truthful.

It could be all bluffs. In which case, I expect Wasps to call it and drop the NDA.

We shall see.
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The response from Wasps, or even the lack of one, I think will tell us a lot. As you say if the club are bluffing Wasps will happily agree to drop the NDA and let everything come out. If, on the other hand, they decide they don't want the details in the public domain I think we can all work out the most likely reason.
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #60
How secret is this NDA ? plenty on both sides must know, what could happen should it be slipped out, sometimes needs someone with bollocks to rock the boat. Remember Paul Fletcher putting our badge on the stadium against ccc permission over night wasn’t be-headed was he.
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #61
skyblue1991 said:
You're saying the Dave Boddy statement this evening stating they have evidence to back their argument is euqlly vauge with the Wasps statement?

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Well no you literally just quoted what he said, why are you asking him if he said something else
 
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Magwitch

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #62
I do wonder if a decision from the EU is imminent been going on for an age now it’s as I f something has spooked things a bit.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #63
Magwitch said:
I do wonder if a decision from the EU is imminent been going on for an age now it’s as I f something has spooked things a bit.
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Its got to be soon, well overdue already.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #64
Hey @Tom Leach I got a headline for you.

“Sisu willing to come clean, will CCC and Wasps do the same?”
 
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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #65
Honestly, if wasps say no we know who is telling the truth.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #66
Mucca Mad Boys said:
100% agreed.

This is essential. The RICOH project has utterly failed. I was of the view that we could coexist with Wasps in a consensual, and mutually beneficial relationship. Now, I am of the view that this is inherently impossible in the current circumstance.

It is time for the club to forge its own destiny and if our owners want the fans onboard, they need to keep us updated on every step of the program. Most importantly, tangible progress is needed too.

Frankly, I believe the community of SBT (as in the forum), potentially led by @Sky Blue Pete and @mark82 and/or anyone willing to do it, should organise something resembling a supporters Trust.

The Sky Blues Trust just doesn’t seem up to the task.
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The Trust have long been an utter disgrace and not fit for purpose.
 

bawtryneal

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #67
The easiest thing to do is leak the details of the discussions to a journalist and ensure they cannot trace it back to SISU. Computers get hacked all the times these days
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #68
mr_monkey said:
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I can't believe I'm saying this but tbf to the trust the stuff they said on the radio and their reply to the wasps tweet today at least show a slight change of tact, don't get me wrong they still have a mountain to climb but at least the sign of some willing seems to be there
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The majority on here seem to have changed their minds regarding Sisu, perhaps over the coming months/years they will about the Trust. Oh and by the way this includes me.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #69
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
The majority on here seem to have changed their minds regarding Sisu, perhaps over the coming months/years they will about the Trust. Oh and by the way this includes me.
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They will be judged on their actions though won't they?

We have heard the same things time and time again. If they do sort their shit out and hammering all sides then people might change their views on them.

I still don't think it's a case of changing their minds about SISU either, it's more opening their eyes to Wasps / CCC in all of this.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jul 26, 2020
  • #70
Nick said:
They will be judged on their actions though won't they?

We have heard the same things time and time again. If they do sort their shit out and hammering all sides then people might change their views on them.

I still don't think it's a case of changing their minds about SISU either, it's more opening their eyes to Wasps / CCC in all of this.
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That is the most important part. As most people say they are the go to organisation for tv /media and Their voices are heard. I very rarely go to their meetings now but am going to the next and this will be raised
 
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