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Moff

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #106
italiahorse said:
It was a bloody letter. A bloody letter in this day and age.
Send an email direct and track it.
All of a sudden the telegraph can be believed.
As I said you just latch on and put it over as inside knowledge.
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Perhaps he tracked his letter.
So are you saying the Telegraph are lying?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #107
dongonzalos said:
Letters, why is everybody writing letters and faxes that don't get anywhere!!!!?
If I was an MP tasked to do something I would write a letter, I would have the same letter sent in email form. I would also speak to the relevant person by phone.
When I needed to report back to my boss I would not be saying 'well I sent a letter but didn't hear anything'. ( that's just not an acceptable answer). That's not how an MP tasked to do something should work.
My boss would be rightly asking 'well,what did they say to you on the phone'
Two things should happen now over the next few days. The club and the MP contact Wasps. Let's see if they do.
Worrying thing is, without a new CEO around Tim Fisher will do the negotiations with Wasps.
His record so far in such matters does not fill me with confidence
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How can somebody who writes so many words say so little?

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Moff

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #108
fernandopartridge said:
How can somebody who writes so many words say so little?

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Tony runs him close.
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #109
Grendel said:
Can you read? Chief Dave refers to it a few lines up.
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So what contact was it and who did he say that there was no contact with?
 

italiahorse

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #110
Moff said:
Perhaps he tracked his letter.
So are you saying the Telegraph are lying?
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If he sent a letter why did he not escalate it?
Something not right here, particularly in this day an age.
CET are just passing on a Chinese whisper and escalating it into a major story.
Its what all papers do otherwise stories would be boring.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #111
Astute said:
So what contact was it and who did he say that there was no contact with?
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Are you living on some kind of alternate dimension to everyone else on this thread?
 

Moff

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #112
italiahorse said:
If he sent a letter why did he not escalate it?
Something not right here, particularly in this day an age.
CET are just passing on a Chinese whisper and escalating it into a major story.
Its what all papers do otherwise stories would be boring.
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If I contact my MP, he writes. Its the way they do it. If you don't like it you can always complain to your MP

When you say something isn't right, perhaps it could be, and I know this may come as a shock to you, that Nick Eastwood is lying?

Re the Telegraph, when people damn them for the shite they write about the Club and their PR (alleged) for Wasps, those people get slated for having a go at the paper, and yet when the Telegraph actually say something negative about Wasps those that normally defend it say its just a Chinese whisper and its rubbished. Strange that.
 
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Astute

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #113
Grendel said:
Are you living on some kind of alternate dimension to everyone else on this thread?
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Don't ever accuse me of being like yourself.

I don't read the CET. I don't go on their website. As usual you know whats happening more than anyone else. So I asked you what is going on. But of course you ask questions but very rarely answer them.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #114
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Of cours he doesn't know throws in random Grendull "facts" and goes away
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Corrected for you
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #115
Astute said:
Don't ever accuse me of being like yourself.

I don't read the CET. I don't go on their website. As usual you know whats happening more than anyone else. So I asked you what is going on. But of course you ask questions but very rarely answer them.
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You don't have to read the telegraph. There's a thing called the Internet - have a look - I think someone may have even linked it on here.

Do you think all of us are discussing something on here that's not happened? We are making things up for a giggle?
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #116
Not defending any one here, but who is the who in the story? Nick Eastwood may have thought that the Telegraph were meaning someone for the club for instance. It's always the same with anything around CCFC at the minute, theirs too much ambiguity form all sides.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #117
Grendel said:
You don't have to read the telegraph. There's a thing called the Internet - have a look - I think someone may have even linked it on here.

Do you think all of us are discussing something on here that's not happened? We are making things up for a giggle?
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Stop being a twat for once.

You are angry about something (not unusual) and I don't know what is going on. I have more to my life than being on here every minute of every day. Not all of us earn what the PM does whilst having the time to live on here. I have been arranging things as I have another operation on Thursday.

So I ask again. What has been said by who, how and who has he said he hasn't communicated with?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #118
italiahorse said:
It was a bloody letter. A bloody letter in this day and age.
Send an email direct and track it.
All of a sudden the telegraph can be believed.
As I said you just latch on and put it over as inside knowledge.
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it's either believe them and a tory MP or believe an out of town hedge fund. Either way your dancing with the devil!!
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #119
Moff said:
When you say something isn't right, perhaps it could be, and I know this may come as a shock to you, that Nick Eastwood is lying
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Surely not. The same Nick Eastwood that was telling Wasps fans the club were planning to return to London while negotiating to buy the Ricoh? The same Nick Eastwood that told CCFC fans he knew nothing about us being kicked out of our dressing room and losing the use of the indoor warm up area only for it to be confirmed the next morning?
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #120
Moff said:
Tony runs him close.
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I don't know. Someone gave a long winded explanation of why SP was better than Mowbray yesterday even crediting SP with a TM permanent signing. I might waffle but I always make a point with fact and if I do get it wrong (rare I know ) I at least put my hands up.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #121
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Not defending any one here, but who is the who in the story? Nick Eastwood may have thought that the Telegraph were meaning someone for the club for instance. It's always the same with anything around CCFC at the minute, theirs too much ambiguity form all sides.
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Nick Eastwood was Wasps chief exec, was replaced by David Armstrong. Armstong is now being replaced by Eastwood.

There was an interview with Eastwood in the CT yesterday where he said "“We haven’t heard anything from the football club ... If and when they wish to talk to us, of course we are always willing to talk and listen.". Seemed a bit odd to me as the talks ended when Wasps refused to continue speaking with the club so you would expect, if their stance had changed, for them to inform the club of this.

He was also asked about mediation. Previously Chris Heaton-Harris was appointed by Tracey Crouch (sports minister) to mediate. Eastwood stated "All we know about that is what we’ve read in the public space. We haven’t been approached by anyone.”

Today it has been confirmed that Heaton-Harris did contact Wasps by letter and received no response.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #122
skybluetony176 said:
I don't know. Someone gave a long winded explanation of why SP was better than Mowbray yesterday even crediting SP with a TM permanent signing. I might waffle but I always make a point with fact and if I do get it wrong (rare I know ) I at least put my hands up.
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Splitting hairs, Toni. Pressley couldn't sign him permanently as it was outside the transfer window, he was signed with a view to a permanent deal. Signed when Pressley was manager though I'll give you a little bit of credit, he was recommended by Hockaday.
 
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SimonGilbert

Telegraph Tea Boy
  • May 9, 2017
  • #123
italiahorse said:
If he sent a letter why did he not escalate it?
Something not right here, particularly in this day an age.
CET are just passing on a Chinese whisper and escalating it into a major story.
Its what all papers do otherwise stories would be boring.
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Chinese whispers = Attributable quotes which are contradictory.

We've reported exactly what was said. Up to you to decide who is telling the truth... Or if it lies somewhere in the middle.

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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #124
fernandopartridge said:
Splitting hairs, Toni. Pressley couldn't sign him permanently as it was outside the transfer window, he was signed with a view to a permanent deal. Signed when Pressley was manager though I'll give you a little bit of credit, he was recommended by Hockaday.
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SP didn't sign him at all, Hockaday did. SP was shown the door two days later. Wasn't SP on gardening leave before he was sacked? He was only signed for 27 days initially. It was TM who signed him on loan to the end of the season and then signed him permanently in the summer. You credit SP with it though if it makes you feel better. No skin of my nose.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #125
fernandopartridge said:
How can somebody who writes so many words say so little?

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Thanks for reading and taking the time to reply yet again.
Always appreciated.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #126
Grendel said:
Why did Eastwood say there had been no contact?
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Maybe that's what he believes. Do know you know for a fact otherwise?
If he had personally been aware of contact. It's pretty stupid to say to a newspaper that there hasn't been any. As the MP will just say he sent the letter.
If you are told as part of your job toarrange a meeting with someone. Would you send a letter. Then when you heard nothing just leave it at that.
I wouldn't.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #127
skybluetony176 said:
SP didn't sign him at all, Hockaday did. SP was shown the door two days later. Wasn't SP on gardening leave before he was sacked? He was only signed for 27 days initially. It was TM who signed him on loan to the end of the season and then signed him permanently in the summer. You credit SP with it though if it makes you feel better. No skin of my nose.
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Tony don't split hairs and let actual facts get in the way of his point.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #128
skybluetony176 said:
SP didn't sign him at all, Hockaday did. SP was shown the door two days later. Wasn't SP on gardening leave before he was sacked? He was only signed for 27 days initially. It was TM who signed him on loan to the end of the season and then signed him permanently in the summer. You credit SP with it though if it makes you feel better. No skin of my nose.
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Nope. Pressley was in charge when we played away at Sheffield United in Stokes' debut, I was there.

Would Mowbray have signed him if he wasn't already at the club? I doubt it very much.

Bless you, Toni. You really try your best.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #129
fernandopartridge said:
Nope. Pressley was in charge when we played away at Sheffield United in Stokes' debut, I was there.

Would Mowbray have signed him if he wasn't already at the club? I doubt it very much.

Bless you, Toni. You really try your best.
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Well done. You finally got a fact in. He played the day he was signed, I'd forgotten that. Still doubt SP had anything to do with it though as he was hanging on by his finger tips. You could actually ask if SP wanted him given it was an initial 27 day loan. Like I said, it was Mowbray who signed him until the end of the season and then signed him permanently after being given complete control of the playing budget by Joy herself. So Mowbray actually signed him twice. Pretty sure that means he wanted him.

Bless you SP. You really try your best and even got there with a fact at the third attempt. Well done again.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #130
Replace Eastwood with Fisher in this and I wonder if we'd be seeing the same response?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #131
Gredndel, while I agree with some of the points you make and am more 'on your side' in this, by arguing it you do more harm than good because you're an inherently dislikabke man.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #132
skybluetony176 said:
Well done. You finally got a fact in. He played the day he was signed, I'd forgotten that. Still doubt SP had anything to do with it though as he was hanging on by his finger tips. You could actually ask if SP wanted him given it was an initial 27 day loan. Like I said, it was Mowbray who signed him until the end of the season and then signed him permanently after being given complete control of the playing budget by Joy herself. So Mowbray actually signed him twice. Pretty sure that means he wanted him.

Bless you SP. You really try your best and even got there with a fact at the third attempt. Well done again.
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SP? You berk
 
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martcov

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #133
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Of course they would be willing to talk, any extra money in their coffers from a ground that wasn't built for them will be most welcome. We will be allowed to stay on terms profitable to them which means we will continue to take a financial hit which our competitors do not. Still, it's that or a groundshare outside the city.
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Are we taking a financial hit though? We pay 100000 rent and get over 70000 back from the 50% profits on F&B. We have no responsibility for stadium maintenance etc..

The present rent deal is not really 'taking a hit'. We played about 26 games at a net rent cost of a bit more than 1000,00 a game. About 12 pence per spectator per game.
 
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Moff

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #134
skybluetony176 said:
I don't know. Someone gave a long winded explanation of why SP was better than Mowbray yesterday even crediting SP with a TM permanent signing. I might waffle but I always make a point with fact and if I do get it wrong (rare I know ) I at least put my hands up.
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You know I was only ribbing
 

hill83

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #135
Liquid Gold said:
Gredndel, while I agree with some of the points you make and am more 'on your side' in this, by arguing it you do more harm than good because you're an inherently dislikabke man.
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'Prick' is the word you are looking for.
 
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Brylowes

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #136
chiefdave said:
Replace Eastwood with Fisher in this and I wonder if we'd be seeing the same response?
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Well people earn their own reputation don't they, they are judged on their actions to date,
I don't really know much about Eastwood, but I do know Fisher has thoroughly earned and
Is deserving of the Reputation he has.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #137
fukin hell guys who cares
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #138
Brylowes said:
Well people earn their own reputation don't they, they are judged on their actions to date,
I don't really know much about Eastwood, but I do know Fisher has thoroughly earned and
Is deserving of the Reputation he has.
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We know Mr Eastwood struggles with geography. He went on record to assure fans at Wycombe that the club remained committed to the south west area of London. Then he claimed that the move to Coventry reduced the travel time for many fans.

This was odd as he then stated 92% of fans were of a CV postcode. Perhaps maths also isn't a strong point.

We know see that he has recollection problems as well.

Poor chap
 
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stupot07

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  • May 9, 2017
  • #139
martcov said:
Are we taking a financial hit though? We pay 100000 rent and get over 70000 back from the 50% profits on F&B. We have no responsibility for stadium maintenance etc..

The present rent deal is not really 'taking a hit'. We played about 26 games at a net rent cost of a bit more than 1000,00 a game. About 12 pence per spectator per game.
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We pay match day costs which contribute towards maintenance, cleaning, etc.

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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • May 9, 2017
  • #140
fernandopartridge said:
Nope. Pressley was in charge when we played away at Sheffield United in Stokes' debut, I was there.

Would Mowbray have signed him if he wasn't already at the club? I doubt it very much.

Bless you, Toni. You really try your best.
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He was on an initial month loan which I assume was to do with transfer regulations. Either way Mowbray was going to not renew and the only reason he signed him till the end of the season was because he failed to get Sam Ricketts from Swindon in March.
 
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