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shmmeee

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #1,366
ovduk78 said:
Keeper was booked before penalty was taken for saying something to Torp
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Kept coming off his line to talk to him after being told not to
 
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ovduk78

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  • Dec 1, 2024
  • #1,367
shmmeee said:
Kept coming off his line to talk to him after being told not to
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There was another player who took ages to leave the penalty area & delayed the kick further as he was still standing inside. I'm surprised the referee didn't book him as well
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,368
ovduk78 said:
Keeper was booked before penalty was taken for saying something to Torp
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Yep and after the game he was talking to the ref and the yellow card was shown again
 
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ovduk78

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,369
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep and after the game he was talking to the ref and the yellow card was shown again
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I didn't see that. I've checked BBC info on game and no mention of 2nd yellow but then according to it Cardiff no 3 wasn't booked but I'm sure he was for contesting penalty
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,370
SBAndy said:
But quite often you’ll have players that are in no way medically trained basically self-certifying that they are fit. That’s no good to anyone. I seem to recall after O’Hare did his ACL he tried running it off.

Don’t get me wrong, there’s a loophole that needs closing but it ain’t easy. One thought was that you let the physio enter the field of play during play, like in rugby, but I feel football moves too quickly for that to be worthwhile.
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ACLs are a funny one, they settle down after the initial issue and actually feel OK. I think the same thing happened to Rodri with his.

The physios should be able to check this and diagnose pitch side (I think this is correct, whatever checks they do will detect an abnormal range of movement in the joint).
 
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MusicDating

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,371
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Anyone want to praise yesterday’s ref for the excellent decision to come back for a free kick to us after a foul and the ball squirmed through to a player in an offside position?

Seemed absolute common sense. And therefore almost certainly wrong.

He also got the Cardiff goal right - no interference with the keeper, and obvs the penalty (after a good while).
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Norm was actually playing their striker in front of Collins onside. Would have been a decision to make if he'd have stepped out.

Poor from Norm really as he's in no-man's land. Poor from each of the 11 players in this one pic TBH!

 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,372
Sky Blue Pete said:
Says a non referee
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I've got eyes and you ain't ref either fella
 
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David O'Day

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,373
For the keeper stoppages why can't a team just go and stand a player in front of the other teams dugout? They'd be on the pitch but in the other teams team talk
 
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AJB1983

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,374
SBAndy said:
But quite often you’ll have players that are in no way medically trained basically self-certifying that they are fit. That’s no good to anyone. I seem to recall after O’Hare did his ACL he tried running it off.

Don’t get me wrong, there’s a loophole that needs closing but it ain’t easy. One thought was that you let the physio enter the field of play during play, like in rugby, but I feel football moves too quickly for that to be worthwhile.
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Arblaster did same in the Sheffield derby. Went down looking like it was an ACL, and he carried on until half time - now he’s out for season.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,375
Forgot to say at the start of this season there was a push for physio only coming on the pitch when the player couldn’t just get on with it. I think this aspect has made a positive difference but there’s a particular problem in that a game can’t carry on without them so it needs a different solution

What was then supposed to happen was for the physio to make a quick judgement on what treatment is required and then for that treatment to happen off the pitch. This just hasn’t happened. Refs have made sure people stay off the pitch for 30 seconds after a break in play.

In grassroots where it’s rolling subs this works but in the professional game it just hasn’t worked or even been done probably cause it’s a huge advantage to play with an extra man

I think the idea was sound
I understand why it’s not been done
I would like it to be tried again
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,376
MusicDating said:
Norm was actually playing their striker in front of Collins onside. Would have been a decision to make if he'd have stepped out.

Poor from Norm really as he's in no-man's land. Poor from each of the 11 players in this one pic TBH!

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I appreciate I might be looking at this with Sky Blue specs but to me their forwards left foot looks closer to the goal line than Bassette's feet. Would like to see a side on angle ideally!
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Dec 2, 2024
  • #1,377
Legia Sky Blue said:
I appreciate I might be looking at this with Sky Blue specs but to me their forwards left foot looks closer to the goal line than Bassette's feet. Would like to see a side on angle ideally!
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We did see the side angle from block 23 and he was closer,but without VAR such a fine margin cannot blame the lino
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 5, 2024
  • #1,378

Eight seconds for time-wasting keepers to release ball – or concede a corner

Referees will give time-wasting keepers a countdown under new idea being trialled by football’s lawmakers, while ‘daylight’ offside is being looked at again
www.thetimes.com

What’s the point of this? We’ve already got a rule for six seconds that they don’t follow.
 
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Frostie

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  • Dec 6, 2024
  • #1,379
shmmeee said:

Eight seconds for time-wasting keepers to release ball – or concede a corner

Referees will give time-wasting keepers a countdown under new idea being trialled by football’s lawmakers, while ‘daylight’ offside is being looked at again
www.thetimes.com

What’s the point of this? We’ve already got a rule for six seconds that they don’t follow.
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The belief within IFAB now is that the punishment of an indirect free-kick in the area is too harsh.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 6, 2024
  • #1,380
Frostie said:
The belief within IFAB now is that the punishment of an indirect free-kick in the area is too harsh.
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Think that’s accurate
Corner would be good to trial
Although if the stats are still as they were
You are slightly more likely to concede from a corner than score from it so that’s a thing
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,381
Frostie said:
The belief within IFAB now is that the punishment of an indirect free-kick in the area is too harsh.
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How would they know? Has it ever been given?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,382
Disallowed a legit goal
Ignored several clear penalties

MOTM
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,383
Same one as Boro away too!
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,384
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Disallowed a legit goal
Ignored several clear penalties

MOTM
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Goal was legit for sure.

Not sure about the pens, would have been soft imo
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,385
Nuskyblue said:
Goal was legit for sure.

Not sure about the pens, would have been soft imo
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Looked pretty good shouts to me and was very surprised none were given.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,386
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Looked pretty good shouts to me and was very surprised none were given.
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Shouts yes, they could have been given I guess.

The one against Bidwell was particularly weak IMO, their player seemed to run across Bidwell before falling on the ball (this is the only pen shout that the Millwall coms mentioned).

I think the other shout must have been against MvE(?), the lad they bought on at LW/LM got in behind, there was a coming together and the kid went down by the dead ball line. This looked like it could have been a foul actually but again had the air of a coming together (haven't seen a replay so could we miles off).

The goal that was disallowed was a joke of a decision!
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,387
None of them looked like pens on TV
 

rockwoodfleet

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,388
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Disallowed a legit goal
Ignored several clear penalties

MOTM
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Fucking prick.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,389
rockwoodfleet said:
Fucking prick.
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Steady on
 

rockwoodfleet

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,390
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Steady on
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Sorry mate. Was harsh and I apologise. Just surprised by your comments.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,391
rockwoodfleet said:
Sorry mate. Was harsh and I apologise. Just surprised by your comments.
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Clearly not entirely serious if the same post calls the referee MOTM!
 
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Para1140

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,392
peteCCFC said:
Best ref of the season today. Proper game, down to him for allowing it to flow. Bravo
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Funny the Milwall forum is slating him. They are saying the disallowed goal should have stood and they had a stonewall pen turned down
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,393
Why was it disallowed
 

skyblueelephant76

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,394
Sky Blue Pete said:
Why was it disallowed
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Longstaff put his hand on Collins shoulder, if he hadn't it probably would have gone in anyway but if you do that it's a foul 99% of the time
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 7, 2024
  • #1,395
Para1140 said:
Funny the Milwall forum is slating him. They are saying the disallowed goal should have stood and they had a stonewall pen turned down
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I thought both pen appeals were decent shouts, the Milan one was very similar to the one Tats gave away against Luton. The other one Bidwell went through the back of his legs.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #1,396
stupot07 said:
I thought both pen appeals were decent shouts, the Milan one was very similar to the one Tats gave away against Luton. The other one Bidwell went through the back of his legs.
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Should be a high bar with pens so pleased with that
Be fuming the other way round of course
 
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MalcSB

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #1,397
MusicDating said:
Norm was actually playing their striker in front of Collins onside. Would have been a decision to make if he'd have stepped out.

Poor from Norm really as he's in no-man's land. Poor from each of the 11 players in this one pic TBH!

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I hadnt spotted Norm there. A picture from the side would be helpful to make sure no “scoring” part of the player in front of Collins was offside.

Theres clear interference in the sight line.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #1,398
Nuskyblue said:
Shouts yes, they could have been given I guess.

The one against Bidwell was particularly weak IMO, their player seemed to run across Bidwell before falling on the ball (this is the only pen shout that the Millwall coms mentioned).

I think the other shout must have been against MvE(?), the lad they bought on at LW/LM got in behind, there was a coming together and the kid went down by the dead ball line. This looked like it could have been a foul actually but again had the air of a coming together (haven't seen a replay so could we miles off).

The goal that was disallowed was a joke of a decision!
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Whatmore?
A pathetic attempt at influencing the ref.
 
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MalcSB

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #1,399
skyblueelephant76 said:
Longstaff put his hand on Collins shoulder, if he hadn't it probably would have gone in anyway but if you do that it's a foul 99% of the time
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Wasn’t it a bit stronger than putting his hand on Collins shoulder? It looked to me (on tv) that he pulled him down / over.
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 8, 2024
  • #1,400
Sky Blue Pete said:
Should be a high bar with pens so pleased with that
Be fuming the other way round of course
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Yeah, it's really why in glad we don't have VAR.
 
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