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JAM See

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  • Oct 27, 2024
  • #1,086
rexo87 said:
If anything I thought he gave us more decisions than we should have had. Seemed to have no control whatsoever over the game from very early on though
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I reckon he knew he'd fucked up when he didn't give a yellow for the Simms pull back.

Thought he was going to lose it after the Kitching booking (underserved), but he was much better in the second half.
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Oct 27, 2024
  • #1,087
every decision for us, he was under a barrage of protests from about 4 or 5 Luton players. Should have stamped down on that
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Oct 27, 2024
  • #1,088
I think he was class considering what we’ve had to deal with this season, can we have him every week please
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 27, 2024
  • #1,089
olderskyblue said:
every decision for us, he was under a barrage of protests from about 4 or 5 Luton players. Should have stamped down on that
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It took Carlton Morris too long to get booked for gobbing off, but once he was he shut up for the rest of the game. No matter how pissed off a player is, if he knows expressing it will get him sent off he’ll lay off.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 27, 2024
  • #1,090
JAM See said:
I reckon he knew he'd fucked up when he didn't give a yellow for the Simms pull back.

Thought he was going to lose it after the Kitching booking (underserved), but he was much better in the second half.
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Definite yellow for kitchen was reckless
 
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JAM See

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  • Oct 27, 2024
  • #1,091
Sky Blue Pete said:
Definite yellow for kitchen was reckless
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As has been mentioned before, we all see a different game in the same stadium.

I was still fuming about the Simms let off for the Luton lad, and probably had my sky blue tinted glasses on.

Still think it was harsh though.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 27, 2024
  • #1,092
JAM See said:
As has been mentioned before, we all see a different game in the same stadium.

I was still fuming about the Simms let off for the Luton lad, and probably had my sky blue tinted glasses on.

Still think it was harsh though.
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Definite yellow for Doughty too for the pull back
 
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Adge

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  • Oct 27, 2024
  • #1,093
Team work was really lacking as the assistant was 5 yards from the Simms pull back in the first half that should have resulted in a caution for denying a promising attack. It was the referee though that gave the decision and there was no flag from the assistant 🫤
 
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We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Oct 27, 2024
  • #1,094
Ref was ok in my opinion, linos were useless however
 

Robinshio

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,095
apart from the obvious yellow missed on simms, he had a good game - in light of that not being a yellow, some of those that followed were soft - eg taking the free kick too early
 

Great_Expectations

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,096
We'll_live_and_die said:
Ref was ok in my opinion, linos were useless however
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We have had some shocking refs this year. But they are not helped by the assistants.

Don’t think I’ve seen one linesman (they’ve all been male from memory) make an actual decision all season. Everything relies on the referee. And when they’re rubbish, what chance do we have!
 
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ovduk78

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,097
Great_Expectations said:
We have had some shocking refs this year. But they are not helped by the assistants.

Don’t think I’ve seen one linesman (they’ve all been male from memory) make an actual decision all season. Everything relies on the referee. And when they’re rubbish, what chance do we have!
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We are in block 23 and the linesman on our side was so far behind play it was ridiculous. He did give 1 correct offside against Luton but I've no idea how but then missed another 1 because of where he was. I thought the ref was ok, my only issue is that once he had booked Morris for dissent he let him get away with every other time he was given a mouthful by him.
 

MalcSB

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,098
Sky Blue Pete said:
Definite yellow for Doughty too for the pull back
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So he would have ended up with two yellows and sent off in the first half then.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,099
Adge said:
Team work was really lacking as the assistant was 5 yards from the Simms pull back in the first half that should have resulted in a caution for denying a promising attack. It was the referee though that gave the decision and there was no flag from the assistant 🫤
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Not sure they actually have to flag these days do they!? They are fully mic'd up with constant dialogue. Assistant referee says, yes seen a foul...Ref gives it.
Absolutely should have been a caution though!
Also, a big gripe of mine was the binks scuffle - the Luton player threw his arm at Binks, which was not seen by the official who was very close!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,100
shepardo01 said:
Not sure they actually have to flag these days do they!? They are fully mic'd up with constant dialogue. Assistant referee says, yes seen a foul...Ref gives it.
Absolutely should have been a caution though!
Also, a big gripe of mine was the binks scuffle - the Luton player threw his arm at Binks, which was not seen by the official who was very close!
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When I’m not watching with huge sky blue tinted spectacles I’m staggered by how easy it is to get away with stuff

My lad when reffing says it’s hardest when there’s a melee to keep a check on the players who’ve committed an offence

The second coming together the ref didn’t notice until the crowd told him
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,101
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Sky Blue Pete said:
When I’m not watching with huge sky blue tinted spectacles I’m staggered by how easy it is to get away with stuff

My lad when reffing says it’s hardest when there’s a melee to keep a check on the players who’ve committed an offence

The second coming together the re
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Sky Blue Pete said:
f didn’t notice until the crowd told him
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ght have been because Binks tried to clobber him, I thought the ref did ok, too easy to always blame officials.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,102
The Bobby Madeley tv show, every time it's all about him. so many below par refs it's ridiculous
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,103
robbiethemole said:
The Bobby Madeley tv show, every time it's all about him. so many below par refs it's ridiculous
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Was our winner offside ?
 
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hopesprings

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,104
Sky Blue Pete said:
Definite yellow for kitchen was reckless
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JAM See said:
I reckon he knew he'd fucked up when he didn't give a yellow for the Simms pull back.

Thought he was going to lose it after the Kitching booking (underserved), but he was much better in the second half.
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Not sure how anyone can believe the Kitchen challenge did not deserve a booking it was not only reckless I am sad to say it shows just how poor he is at making decisions... He is a disaster waiting to happen pretty much every game I have seen him play.... for lots of those games he looks ok...even quite good ...but then he does something that is inexplicable...that challenge on Saturday was terrible and a clearexample of what I am saying......even when he clearly realised he wasnt going to win the ball and had time to pull up he just carried on ...wow
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,105
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Was our winner offside ?
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No! The sky pundits done it to death and a Luton player up the top played everyone onside
 
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shepardo01

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,106
Skyblue Bangkok said:
Was our winner offside ?
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No
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,107
Robinshio said:
apart from the obvious yellow missed on simms, he had a good game - in light of that not being a yellow, some of those that followed were soft - eg taking the free kick too early
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Box ticking?
 
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hopesprings

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,108
Great_Expectations said:
We have had some shocking refs this year. But they are not helped by the assistants.

Don’t think I’ve seen one linesman (they’ve all been male from memory) make an actual decision all season. Everything relies on the referee. And when they’re rubbish, what chance do we have!
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Many times the referees instruct their linos NOT to gesticulate or indicate any decisions...now they re all wired up they pass on their opinion verbally and let the referee look as if they are making the decisions...
 
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MalcSB

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,109
hopesprings said:
Many times the referees instruct their linos NOT to gesticulate or indicate any decisions...now they re all wired up they pass on their opinion verbally and let the referee look as if they are making the decisions...
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Why bother with flags then?
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,110
hopesprings said:
Many times the referees instruct their linos NOT to gesticulate or indicate any decisions...now they re all wired up they pass on their opinion verbally and let the referee look as if they are making the decisions...
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Is that an actual line from the laws of the game or something you heard down the pub and took it as gospel?
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,111
What I'm surprised about is that the PL don't buy in referees from other countries. Especially considering the standard in this country.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 28, 2024
  • #1,112
Colin Steins Smile said:
What I'm surprised about is that the PL don't buy in referees from other countries. Especially considering the standard in this country.
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Buying more in wouldn’t exactly help matters. Could instead direct a portion more of the enormous TV money into refereeing.
 
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Adge

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  • Oct 29, 2024
  • #1,113
hopesprings said:
Many times the referees instruct their linos NOT to gesticulate or indicate any decisions...now they re all wired up they pass on their opinion verbally and let the referee look as if they are making the decisions...
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Well it was the assistant that gave the foul on our right hand side in front of him from which we scored the winner.
 

Nick

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  • Oct 29, 2024
  • #1,114
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It took Carlton Morris too long to get booked for gobbing off, but once he was he shut up for the rest of the game. No matter how pissed off a player is, if he knows expressing it will get him sent off he’ll lay off.
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I'm not sure he did pipe down, he was going at him for ages after.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #1,115
Nick said:
I'm not sure he did pipe down, he was going at him for ages after.
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Had one underserved season in the prem and thinks he is a big star who gets what he wants, reminds me of Troy Deeney
 
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Robinshio

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #1,116
the biggest issue with the lino, was when the ref ran over to see if the corner kick was within the correct area
It was blatantly clear from where the lino was standing that it was well within limits - he just had to tell the ref, and there would be no drama
instead the ref comes over needlessly to check
they really arent using their linos - who are often even too scared to flag until the ref has made a decision
 

Adge

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #1,117
 
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hopesprings

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #1,118
Potbellypig said:
Is that an actual line from the laws of the game or something you heard down the pub and took it as gospel?
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No its not a law but it has always been the referees decision as to how he instrcts his linos...Howard Webb refers to it lots when he is on various tv and radio interviews ...go ask any qualified ref... why you look for crap when there isnt any?.. I may not even go to the pub
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #1,119
Starts at the top for me. When all you see on TV is players and managers surrounding the ref and getting in their face what do the authorities think will happen further down the pyramid?

Its such an easy problem to solve as well, its not an issue in other sports because its not tolerated. If you started dishing out red cards and suspensions for descent it would soon stop.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 30, 2024
  • #1,120
chiefdave said:
Starts at the top for me. When all you see on TV is players and managers surrounding the ref and getting in their face what do the authorities think will happen further down the pyramid?

Its such an easy problem to solve as well, its not an issue in other sports because its not tolerated. If you started dishing out red cards and suspensions for descent it would soon stop.
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No idea why this doesn’t happen. I know it’s a different sport but when I played Rugby, players and fans wouldn’t dream of abusing the ref as they do in football.

Need refs to get harsh on this, all up for debate but let it be through the captain and in the right manner.
 
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