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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #876
We really should be putting in a formal complaint about tonight’s clown. Both their goals should have been disallowed, our pen wasn’t a pen, he probably missed a pen each for both sides, was wildly inconsistent with what was and wasn’t a foul and seemed to have no idea when to hand out a booking.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #877
Just poor again ! All points already made in previous posts
 

jim20

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #878
A friend of me messaged me last night after the game. He’s half French and supports PSG, watches a lot of English football and his comment was, is there a narrative where there are certain teams the league want to do well. He has said he’s seen it in other games this season where the likes of Leicester and Leeds have had some very weird decisions from the ref go their way. I told him I think the refs are just crap. But in the prem they definitely seem to favour or are influenced by the bigger clubs
 
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djr8369

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #879
Nick said:
They are ruining football.

It wasn't a pen for us, it was never a booking for Lati, both of their goals were handball and it was a clear offside in the leadup to the second.

They are just fucking useless.
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The Lati booking was bizarre. I’m not sure there was even a hint of a foul he just seemed like normal contact? And was what, third minute?
 
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TomRad85

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #880
The constant clash in my brain of thinking VAR is ruining the game vs also thinking most Championship refs are clearly not at a standard to ref without it.

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pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #881
jim20 said:
A friend of me messaged me last night after the game. He’s half French and supports PSG, watches a lot of English football and his comment was, is there a narrative where there are certain teams the league want to do well. He has said he’s seen it in other games this season where the likes of Leicester and Leeds have had some very weird decisions from the ref go their way. I told him I think the refs are just crap. But in the prem they definitely seem to favour or are influenced by the bigger clubs
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I think ultimately they've got one of the most challenging jobs in the world and need support. VAR should be that support but it's not used correctly.

VAR should have 30 seconds rule. Last night that would have been enough times to see the Southampton first goal was handball.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #882
pusbccfc said:
I think ultimately they've got one of the most challenging jobs in the world and need support. VAR should be that support but it's not used correctly.

VAR should have 30 seconds rule. Last night that would have been enough times to see the Southampton first goal was handball.
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but even as they played the replay their commentator could'nt see it was a deflected goal and handball
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #883
Mcbean said:
but even as they played the replay their commentator could'nt see it was a deflected goal and handball
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"their commentator"
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #884
Mcbean said:
but even as they played the replay their commentator could'nt see it was a deflected goal and handball
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Yes he really was clueless I thought!!
Just like the ref!!
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #885
I worry about bookings In the first couple of minutes? We have been subjected to 3 up to my recollection(may be more!) This in effect hamstrings our play and Lati could not or dare not make a tackle to prevent the first goal! If I was a cynic I would say someone wants to influence the games outcome. Perhaps the bookies should stop the early bookings bet?
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #886
Booking Lati after two minutes was ridiculous. From where we were, it didn't look like he did anything. From that moment on Lati was scared to tackle in case he got sent off. Thought it was bizarre that Robins took off Kitchin and left Lati on.

Some of their players were fouling much worse than the Lati challenge but they never got booked. Eccles and Sheaf were constantly in the Ref's ear about it.
 
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Skyblueweeman

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #887
JulianDarbyFTW said:
And why the hell did he walk towards Wright as he was starting his run-up to take the penalty? Must have been in Haji's peripheral vision. Just stop the kick if you think he's taking too long. Never usually slate the ref, but he was utter gash tonight.
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I put on another thread - to be fair, Wright took an eternity of the pen. I'm surprised the ref didn't approach him sooner. It was like Wright was stuck on pause. I couldn't believe how long he took over it.
 

torchomatic

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #888
Skyblueweeman said:
I put on another thread - to be fair, Wright took an eternity of the pen. I'm surprised the ref didn't approach him sooner. It was like Wright was stuck on pause. I couldn't believe how long he took over it.
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It did seem forever. He did the same when we went down to Watford. I think he said something about once the whistle goes then he will take it in his own time. I fully expected him to score and if he hadn't've slipped, he would.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #889
torchomatic said:
It did seem forever. He did the same when we went down to Watford. I think he said something about once the whistle goes then he will take it in his own time. I fully expected him to score and if he hadn't've slipped, he would.
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Goalkeeper guessed correctly, think he'd have saved it otherwise.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #890
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Goalkeeper guessed correctly, think he'd have saved it otherwise.
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Haven't seen the highlights yet. Will wait until after work. Particularly want to see what Collins was up to for their second.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #891
I don't care how long he took that was extremely unusual for the ref to intervene along the slip and woodwork.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #892
Is there a time limit? Not like a shot clock in Rugby is it?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #893
There is no time limit to take a penalty.
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #894
So did the ref deliberately put him off
 

pusbccfc

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #895
Was the one at the end of the first half a pen? Looked more clear than the first.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #896
pusbccfc said:
Was the one at the end of the first half a pen? Looked more clear than the first.
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It was more of a pen than the one given, same with the rugby tackle on Wright.
 
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Frostie

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #897
Nick said:
There is no time limit to take a penalty.
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Referee's discretion.

 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #898
So should he have booked him and made him start again?
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #899
It was over 10 secs after the ref blew his whistle before he gestured for Haji to take it. Maybe he thought that Haji hadn't heard the whistle? Shite as the ref was, can't really moan at him for that, Haji was taking ages.

Frostie said:
Referee's discretion.

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shmmeee

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #900
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Goalkeeper guessed correctly, think he'd have saved it otherwise.
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How can you know? He slipped. We’ve mondjes where he was aiming for.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #901
MusicDating said:
It was over 10 secs after the ref blew his whistle before he gestured for Haji to take it. Maybe he thought that Haji hadn't heard the whistle? Shite as the ref was, can't really moan at him for that, Haji was taking ages.
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My issue was the creepy walk up in his peripheral. If you want to stop play blow the whistle. Otherwise stay the fuck out of the way of play. A ref wouldn’t walk up to a play in the middle of play or even a player taking ages on another set piece.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #902
shmmeee said:
How can you know? He slipped. We’ve mondjes where he was aiming for.
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He was aiming for the keeper's right, because that's the direction he kicked the ball in?
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #903
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He was aiming for the keeper's right, because that's the direction he kicked the ball in?
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Was he also aiming for the bar? He slipped, who know where the ball would have gone if he hadn’t hit it twice.
 
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torchomatic

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #904
MusicDating said:
It was over 10 secs after the ref blew his whistle before he gestured for Haji to take it. Maybe he thought that Haji hadn't heard the whistle? Shite as the ref was, can't really moan at him for that, Haji was taking ages.
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As I said earlier, he did the same at Watford.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #905
shmmeee said:
Was he also aiming for the bar? He slipped, who know where the ball would have gone if he hadn’t hit it twice.
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So how does the ball go the opposite direction even if you slip?
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #906
Frostie said:
Referee's discretion.

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To the goalie I'd think?
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #907
shmmeee said:
My issue was the creepy walk up in his peripheral. If you want to stop play blow the whistle. Otherwise stay the fuck out of the way of play. A ref wouldn’t walk up to a play in the middle of play or even a player taking ages on another set piece
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Refs seem to allow ages for throw-ins and as for keepers holding onto the ball, aren't they supposed to only get 6 seconds? what about goalkicks? seem to be the only thing keepers get booked for timewasting for. Surely 5-10 seconds to compose yourself for a penalty isn't excessive.
In over 60 years watching, I've never seen that before.
 
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Frostie

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #908
robbiethemole said:
So should he have booked him and made him start again?
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Could have done. I think approaching him as he did was odd, would surely have been better off blowing the whistle & telling him to get on with it.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #909
Was it Anthony Taylor that gave the pen ahainsy fadz at Preston
He’s reffing psg v Barca and no one is whinging I do wonder if our refs aren’t that bad after all lol
 

Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 10, 2024
  • #910
Watching the Swansea v stoke game, the ball slips out of the Swansea goalkeeper hands stoke player poked it in, in my eyes goal should stand but the ref disallowed it.
 
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