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Nick

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  • Apr 6, 2024
  • #841
Frostie said:
Thought he started well, happy to let a lot go in terms of physicality both ways but then got steadily worse throughout with some utterly baffling decisions &, as others have said, the final 10-15mins or so were incomprehensible.

Simms was manhandled constantly & the decisions were given against him 9/10 times.

No issues with the yellows as such, all obvious bookings. The issue for me was the Eccles one was a clear foul on MVE first which he totally ignored. Also, no issue with him booking Simms & Ampadu for the spat but Simms held onto him as retaliation for being basically bearhugged, ref waved the incident away then subsequently gave them the free-kick ‍
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Their defender 2 handed pushed him in the back most of the times he jumped for a header and nothing given.

Simms went anywhere near them and it was a foul every time.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #842
Nick said:
Their defender 2 handed pushed him in the back most of the times he jumped for a header and nothing given.

Simms went anywhere near them and it was a foul every time.
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This baffles me, in terms of refereeing.

There are 'Assistant' referees that can see because they are generally level with the back line or behind it - why are they not assisting the referee and saying that there's a 2 hand push? Or that the striker has backed under the defender? Etc etc

Its so bad it is verging on laughable.

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WestEndAgro

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #843
Fuckin diabolical ref yesterday, where do they find these idiots?
Gave Dirty Leeds, pretty much everything.
When he gave a free kick to us near the end, the crowd virtually celebrated like a goal.
 

Adge

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #844
Forget about that he is from Wakefield and it’s near Leeds-he could just as easily be an Arsenal fan. This is very well scrutinized by the EFL/FA when it comes to appointments regarding fixtures.
The trouble is is that you get an indifferent performance such as yesterday’s and it’s an easy stick to beat him with because he is from Wakefield. Not his best day at the office but to claim bias is just silly.
 
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zuni

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #845
Read the Leeds match feedback...pretty much said we were dirty and ref gave them no protection lol wtf
 
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Captain_Slackbladder

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #846
zuni said:
Read the Leeds match feedback...pretty much said we were dirty and ref gave them no protection lol wtf
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Not well known for being humble in defeat that Leeds lot!
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #847
He wasn’t diabolical yesterday. Let a lot go first half (both ways) and games flowed well. A little inconsistent but not an issue. About half way through second half he seemed to lose the plot after a frantic few minutes where both sides claimed fouls…some he played advantage some he didn’t. From then on his performance deteriorated to the point where most decisions given (or not given) were questioned. It appeared biased against us but in reality he had lost control over the players.


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Sbarcher

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #848
Most refs tell linos just to watch for offsides. Leave all other decisions to them.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #849
Tomh111 said:
This baffles me, in terms of refereeing.

There are 'Assistant' referees that can see because they are generally level with the back line or behind it - why are they not assisting the referee and saying that there's a 2 hand push? Or that the striker has backed under the defender? Etc etc

Its so bad it is verging on laughable.

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'Assistant referee' has to be the biggest misnomer in sport. Why do they very rarely get involved when a situation is so blatant and out of view of the ref and in a lot of cases right in front of them?
I'm pretty certain a lot of referees brief them NOT to take command in a situation as described above.
Adge?
 

shepardo01

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #850
oscillatewildly said:
'Assistant referee' has to be the biggest misnomer in sport. Why do they very rarely get involved when a situation is so blatant and out of view of the ref and in a lot of cases right in front of them?
I'm pretty certain a lot of referees brief them NOT to take command in a situation as described above.
Adge?
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At this level, they are in constant dialogue with the referee over the mic. The referee is generally seen to be giving decisions, but there will often be dialogue/observations given each way over the mic.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #851
Adge said:
Forget about that he is from Wakefield and it’s near Leeds-he could just as easily be an Arsenal fan. This is very well scrutinized by the EFL/FA when it comes to appointments regarding fixtures.
The trouble is is that you get an indifferent performance such as yesterday’s and it’s an easy stick to beat him with because he is from Wakefield. Not his best day at the office but to claim bias is just silly.
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Ok, if he isn't a Leeds fan he will be friends with lots of them, as I have said we shouldn't be allowed a ref from Leamington.
 

stupot07

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #852
Apparently he supports Huddersfield, if anything he would hate Leeds a little bit like we hate Leicester.

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Adge

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #853
David O'Day said:
Ok, if he isn't a Leeds fan he will be friends with lots of them, as I have said we shouldn't be allowed a ref from Leamington.
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Why? There should be no alleged bias if he was say a Man Utd fan, but again, from the other team’s perspective (who we were playing) it wouldn’t look great if he awarded a correct penalty call in the 90th minute.
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #854
David O'Day said:
Ok, if he isn't a Leeds fan he will be friends with lots of them, as I have said we shouldn't be allowed a ref from Leamington.
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This is a childish way of looking at things - he’s a professional ref doing his job.
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #855
oscillatewildly said:
'Assistant referee' has to be the biggest misnomer in sport. Why do they very rarely get involved when a situation is so blatant and out of view of the ref and in a lot of cases right in front of them?
I'm pretty certain a lot of referees brief them NOT to take command in a situation as described above.
Adge?
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At Sunday league level it is common (as we well know) to insist that CAR’s (Club Assistant Referee’s-usually somebody smoking a fag or a substitute with a bib on) do not award fouls and this would be told to them by the referee before kick off. This on the whole is to stop teams calling decisions in their teams favour.
If a referee was lucky enough to have neutral assistant referee’s at that level (usually it would only be for a Semi-final/Final) there is no way he would be telling them to not to give fouls that they see in their vicinity.
This is always spoken about in the changing rooms before kick off-90% off referees will say/give the same instructions but the odd individual referee may have his own individual add on that he wants his assistants to carry out in regards to instructions.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #856
SBT said:
This is a childish way of looking at things - he’s a professional ref doing his job.
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Just not very well.
 
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Robinshio

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #857
Sky Blue Pete said:
Sheaf was persistence, Bidwell one annoyed me
Simms yc was bollox
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pete ffs - that guy gave them every 50/50 40/60 - persistant fouling on Simms - unnoticed - one of their players gets blown at- yellow card
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #858
Tomh111 said:
This baffles me, in terms of refereeing.

There are 'Assistant' referees that can see because they are generally level with the back line or behind it - why are they not assisting the referee and saying that there's a 2 hand push? Or that the striker has backed under the defender? Etc etc

Its so bad it is verging on laughable.

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Agree, it's funny how the Linesman, "it's a joke to call them Assistant" can see if a player's toe is ahead of the the last defender but can't see all the Rugby tackle's that go on.
 

MalcSB

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #859
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Agree, it's funny how the Linesman, "it's a joke to call them Assistant" can see if a player's toe is ahead of the the last defender but can't see all the Rugby tackle's that go on.
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In the city unseen video, you can see two defenders hanging on to Haji Wright’s back, arms and shirt. How is that not seen or not given as a foul?
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #860
MalcSB said:
In the city unseen video, you can see two defenders hanging on to Haji Wright’s back, arms and shirt. How is that not seen or not given as a foul?
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Just inept officials.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #861
be
Adge said:
Why? There should be no alleged bias if he was say a Man Utd fan, but again, from the other team’s perspective (who we were playing) it wouldn’t look great if he awarded a correct penalty call in the 90th minute.
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because you don't have to support a team to have an bias towards them

even you can see that
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #862
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Just inept officials.
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The one I remember was kitching in the box he won the header but his shirt was almost ripped off

Loved we held our own and fought our ground even in the ref face

Ampadu thought he could bully simms and wright and mve and found he couldn’t so tried the crying and victim card

Simms just wouldn’t let him out the headlock was hilarious would love to see that again
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #863
zuni said:
Read the Leeds match feedback...pretty much said we were dirty and ref gave them no protection lol wtf
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Leeds saying another team are dirty, what goes around comes around!!
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #864
Sky Blue Pete said:
The one I remember was kitching in the box he won the header but his shirt was almost ripped off

Loved we held our own and fought our ground even in the ref face

Ampadu thought he could bully simms and wright and mve and found he couldn’t so tried the crying and victim card

Simms just wouldn’t let him out the headlock was hilarious would love to see that again
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #865
They were holding him all game
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 7, 2024
  • #866
David O'Day said:
be

because you don't have to support a team to have an bias towards them

even you can see that
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Liam Kitching is from Harrogate and according to Eccles all his family and friends are Leeds fans - it didn’t seem to weigh on him much during the game though.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #867
Another shocker tonight.
 
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christonabike

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #868
If this is football I give up, They fall over every single time and the ref and the Saints commentator thinks it’s acceptable.
Disgraceful it really is.
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #869
When will the EFL stop giving jobs to local referees? One day we'll get a referee from Nuneaton or Balsall Common to give his hometown club decisions
 

jim20

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #870
Was this ref from the Isle of Wight? If so a bit dodgey in my opinion, a lot of people of the island are saints fans
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #871
jim20 said:
Was this ref from the Isle of Wight? If so a bit dodgey in my opinion, a lot of people of the island are saints fans
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Yep, they all are. It's like giving the job to someone from Binley Woods
 

jim20

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #872
pusbccfc said:
Yep, they all are. It's like giving the job to someone from Binley Woods
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Absolute joke, but onwards and upwards next season I suppose
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #873
They are ruining football.

It wasn't a pen for us, it was never a booking for Lati, both of their goals were handball and it was a clear offside in the leadup to the second.

They are just fucking useless.
 
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jim20

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  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #874
Nick said:
They are ruining football.

It wasn't a pen for us, it was never a booking for Lati, both of their goals were handball and it was a clear offside in the leadup to the second.

They are just fucking useless.
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That’s the frustrating thing. Take those decisions away that’s 3 points for us. Over the season we’ve had some dreadful decisions and maybe lost 9 or 10 points because of it. But then you’d hope it would even out over the season, but I don’t think it really does.

there’s so much money in football now, and for us this could be the difference between going up and earning £150million which secures our clubs future or have a bad season next season and we slip down the leagues again. The refs need to be made to be more accountable, they should be made to explain why these decisions were made at the very least
 

JulianDarbyFTW

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 9, 2024
  • #875
Nick said:
They are ruining football.

It wasn't a pen for us, it was never a booking for Lati, both of their goals were handball and it was a clear offside in the leadup to the second.

They are just fucking useless.
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And why the hell did he walk towards Wright as he was starting his run-up to take the penalty? Must have been in Haji's peripheral vision. Just stop the kick if you think he's taking too long. Never usually slate the ref, but he was utter gash tonight.
 
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