Sky Blue Pete
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Yep a mistake for me but the speed of it all happening makes it pretty impossible
You do get good at judging but the official has to give what he sees
Didn’t stop me shouting last night
Yep a mistake for me but the speed of it all happening makes it pretty impossibleWhat did he bottle? That implies that he was scared or frightened to make a decision? Not sure I buy that. If you said he’d made an error then that would be nearer to what happened.
Me neither!!Yep a mistake for me but the speed of it all happening makes it pretty impossible
You do get good at judging but the official has to give what he sees
Didn’t stop me shouting last night
I think it is "should always be" I was sitting with a direct line between me and the ref. with the linesman in between and thats what I could see. He told Sheff come come away rightly so any complaint should have been to him and voiced by Fadz.The referee would always be relying/counting on his assistant to give the offside decisions.
Not sure an expression on someone’s face would have a bearing on somebody raising their flag or not?
Agreement before the game so they can work together as a teamI think it is "should always be" I was sitting with a direct line between me and the ref. with the linesman in between and thats what I could see. He told Sheff come come away rightly so any complaint should have been to him and voiced by Faze.
As for relying on them I have watched games where the linesman who is a ref. in his own right has waited for the ref.to make a decision before putting his flag up dispite having a better view of an incident why?
Your second point they should .They are refs. although not in charge in this game and I think they havn't got the balls to sometimes.I it a unity thing I don't know?The ref and the lino knew at the time they'd got it wrong but neither had the bottle to admit so and change the decision.
Also so many linos even it our level don't really make decisions and let the ref who is in a far worse position make the call.
That’s not a lack of game awareness at allMy frustration is the complete lack of game awareness that referees have.
Its tied to time wasting, but niggley fouls and slowing the ball down after them, the sitting on the floor. All of those are so obvious, and I would yellow card immediately for them. They are more disruptive than anything in a game.
There was a point on Monday when their player went down. The referee stopped the game and delayed an attacking throw-in for us. In the meantime, one of their defenders has gone over to talk to the manager. The player on the desk then gets up because he doesn't want to go off and get treatment (shock). The referee sets the game back up, and we go to take the throw-in and continue the already delayed attack. The referee notices their defender talking to Corberan and then stops the game and beckons their defender back onto the pitch and allows him time to reach his position in the defensive shape.
What the fuck is that about?
Not only have you allowed them to slow the game down, disrupt our momentum, allow them to reset into their shape - but you've allowed a coaching break and allowed the player to then come back in delaying the game further.
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OkThat’s not a lack of game awareness at all
Correct.Agreement before the game so they can work together as a team
It’s a reasonable point, inelegantly made.This account, charity apparently, doesn’t help improve the relationship between fans and officials with ridiculous whataboutism to absolve blame.
It’s a reasonable point, inelegantly made.
A referee’s mistake is inherently no different, and no more damaging than a player’s mistake. The idea that the game should be stopped and play bought back so a bad pass could be replaced by a good one would be ludicrous, but apparently the integrity of the game is at risk if we don’t micromanage every refereeing decision we can, even if we have to literally stop playing to do so.
Correct, which is why refs get assessed and demoted if necessary.Although if somebody was making costly mistakes week in, week out in a business where a mistake could potentially cost a lot of money they wouldn't be in a job for long, would they?
Correct, which is why refs get assessed and demoted if necessary.
And the same applies to you regarding endless bile at young footballers trying to make their way in the game.Unfortunately the biased football fan will never appreciate or understand and that will never change until it is seen from the other side of the fence.
I don’t see how it’s any different to Haji Wright being dropped after a rough few games only to come back into the same side a week or so later.Demoted for a week or so to just keep doing it isn't the same, is it?
I don’t see how it’s any different to Haji Wright being dropped after a rough few games only to come back into the same side a week or so later.
What are you suggesting, one bad mistake and you’re struck off for life?
180/200 is a pretty good scoreIf he missed sitters week in week out he would be dropped and released.
Fact is, in our game the other night the officials got multiple important decisions wrong and do most games. Even more so when you have VAR officials making mistakes.
The odd mistake is going to happen, when it's so often it's questionable.
Or find/remain at a certain level which is similarly the same regarding players.Correct, which is why refs get assessed and demoted if necessary.
An expected standard silly remark from yourself when we are currently having a discussion regarding referees.And the same applies to you regarding endless bile at young footballers trying to make their way in the game.
An expected standard silly remark from yourself when we are currently having a discussion regarding referees.
There is no way that referees are “missing sitters week in week out”. The only reason people argue otherwise is either because Sky etc lazily drone on about referees incessantly in the absence of actual analysis, and/or because they’re paranoid moaning man-children who can only tolerate watching games that we win comfortably.If he missed sitters week in week out he would be dropped and released.
Fact is, in our game the other night the officials got multiple important decisions wrong and do most games. Even more so when you have VAR officials making mistakes.
The odd mistake is going to happen, when it's so often it's questionable.
Aye-respect is a mutual thing…….What’s silly about it? If you want respect, it’s probably best to respect others too!
Aye-respect is a mutual thing…….
That's what happened with HaroldI don’t see how it’s any different to Haji Wright being dropped after a rough few games only to come back into the same side a week or so later.
What are you suggesting, one bad mistake and you’re struck off for life?
Nailed it.There is no way that referees are “missing sitters week in week out”. The only reason people argue otherwise is either because Sky etc lazily drone on about referees incessantly in the absence of actual analysis, and/or because they’re paranoid moaning man-children who can only tolerate watching games that we win comfortably.
We’ve got this ref v PrestonThis account, charity apparently, doesn’t help improve the relationship between fans and officials with ridiculous whataboutism to absolve blame.
Wright and Wilson have plenty of evidence to present after Monday!
Nick! they get demoted from premier league games and the we have dea; with their shite decisions in the Championship? they need to go down to league 2 if you ask meDemoted for a week or so to just keep doing it isn't the same, is it?
To be fair, the one bad mistake Shipman made was to be the UK’s most prolific serial killer.That's what happened with Harold
Shipman.
Not making excuses - we didn’t take our chances and defended poorly, but this was the wright one when he was clean through…. I’m assuming it was the same linesman, but for him to give wright offside for this and their guy onside for the goal is outrageous….
What a surpriseNot making excuses - we didn’t take our chances and defended poorly, but this was the wright one when he was clean through…. I’m assuming it was the same linesman, but for him to give wright offside for this and their guy onside for the goal is outrageous….
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