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wingy

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #351
JimmyHillsbeard said:
And the DaSilva tackle wasn’t a red, but it was extremely foolhardy from someone just coming back from a three match suspension for an almost identical misjudgment.
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It's like a death wish from some of them lately, don't know what it is,do have suspicions though,owner related.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #352
Looking at the two incidents again, both were deliberate.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #353
wingy said:
It's like a death wish from some of them lately, don't know what it is,do have suspicions though,owner related.
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King is making them?
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #354
Nick said:
King is making them?
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I'm not seeing anyone rushing to sign the deals they've supposedly offered to them, namely Frank and Haji.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #355
wingy said:
I'm not seeing anyone rushing to sign the deals they've supposedly offered to them, namely Frank and Haji.
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So it's making people fly into tackles?
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #356
Nick said:
So it's making people fly into tackles?
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They're not being offered enough bonuses?
 
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skyblueiom

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #357
skybluecam said:
I wonder if we’ve got a reputation for going down easily amongst refs. A lot of these shouts have been bodily contact rather than kicks or trips.
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i think there may be something in this. In my opion both Wright and EMC go down a lot and sometimes quite easily. I was annoyed with EMC at one point in the first half as they were on the attack, he didnt get the foul but stayed down to try and 'save face.' he wasnt injured and it could have cost us. I think perhaps refs are getting a bit sick of the diving so pushed them too far the other way.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #358
skyblueiom said:
i think there may be something in this. In my opion both Wright and EMC go down a lot and sometimes quite easily. I was annoyed with EMC at one point in the first half as they were on the attack, he didnt get the foul but stayed down to try and 'save face.' he wasnt injured and it could have cost us. I think perhaps refs are getting a bit sick of the diving so pushed them too far the other way.
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Yeah, they could probably do with picking their moments a bit better.

EMC is such a physical player. I think sometimes he doesn't get decisions that he should because of that, but there are definitely also times where he goes down too easily. And if the ref is constantly waving away appeals like that it then becomes easier to wave away the penalties too.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #359
Sky ref said both were pens that’s got to be nearly 10 this season
At this point you’d hope that the refs would recognise they keep getting it wrong and act accordingly
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #360
Sky Blue Pete said:
Sky ref said both were pens that’s got to be nearly 10 this season
At this point you’d hope that the refs would recognise they keep getting it wrong and act accordingly
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If you go purely on those another official has said should have been given, it probably is. Which is mental seeing as the most awarded to any team this season is 4.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #361
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If you go purely on those another official has said should have been given, it probably is. Which is mental seeing as the most awarded to any team this season is 4.
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We have been in our opponents box way more than any other team so that’s probably why
I get that there is a higher threshold for a penalty the two for me that were so bad was weight v Ipswich and the emc one on Saturday
I can’t get my head around then ref not giving them
Now having said that I want to see wright stay on his feet as much as he can you can’t say emc goes down easily he literally always stays on his feet
 
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JeffB

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #362
Andrew Kitchen from county Durham is the referee against Millwall. Although nothing official he is likely to support either Sunderland or Middlesbrough. Terrific! No penalty to us there then.
 

Robinshio

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #363
wingy said:
I'm not seeing anyone rushing to sign the deals they've supposedly offered to them, namely Frank and Haji.
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If we weren’t top of the league and the opportunities that could bring I may bite. lol
 
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skybluecam

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #364
JeffB said:
Andrew Kitchen from county Durham is the referee against Millwall. Although nothing official he is likely to support either Sunderland or Middlesbrough. Terrific! No penalty to us there then.
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He reffed us vs WBA and sent off Molumby
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jan 19, 2026
  • #365
JeffB said:
Andrew Kitchen from county Durham is the referee against Millwall. Although nothing official he is likely to support either Sunderland or Middlesbrough. Terrific! No penalty to us there then.
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We’ve already had a penalty vs Millwall this season.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 21, 2026
  • #366
Thought he was pretty good last night,
 
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skybluebristol

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  • Jan 21, 2026
  • #367
Thought he was OK, yeah. Gave some more of the innocuous stuff that sometimes gets frustratingly let go. I'll need to watch our disallowed goal back to see if he really did interfere with play, but it seemed harsh in real time. Both Grimes and Haji went down looking for pens, I didn't think either of them were in real time from 17
 
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skybluebristol

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  • Jan 21, 2026
  • #368
Ok - I've just watched dit back. I don't think he's offside, flag goes up far too quickly in my opinion. Haji doesn't move to the ball or anything. Another example of a match we've won despite the refereeing. There's a big decision going wrong in every single match at this season. Fans from other clubs must surely be seeing the same as us.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 21, 2026
  • #369
skybluebristol said:
Ok - I've just watched dit back. I don't think he's offside, flag goes up far too quickly in my opinion. Haji doesn't move to the ball or anything. Another example of a match we've won despite the refereeing. There's a big decision going wrong in every single match at this season. Fans from other clubs must surely be seeing the same as us.
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Yep flagged too soon
Way too soon
The assistant did the same at the other end too
Ref said as such
So i suppose they were consistent but could have easily have let it run on
 
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skybluebristol

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #370
Thoughts on referee yesterday?

Obviously him/the team missed the elbow (Lino should have picked that up).

I know you never see them given, but does anyone else think we should have had a penalty for the foul on Eccles after his header by the goalkeeper?
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #371
Yes I thought we should have had penalty for the punch to Eccles but I believe the ref probably unsighted so not blaming him.

Equally clearly BTA should have been shown a red but again ref wouldn’t have seen it. And possibly Saka too.

Apart from those thought the ref did ok and didn’t contribute to our poor result and performance
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #372
lifeskyblue said:
Yes I thought we should have had penalty for the punch to Eccles but I believe the ref probably unsighted so not blaming him.

Equally clearly BTA should have been shown a red but again ref wouldn’t have seen it. And possibly Saka too.

Apart from those thought the ref did ok and didn’t contribute to our poor result and performance
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Missed three key issues between the 3 of them
Bta red card
Eccles pen
Saka getting kicked and his retribution
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #373
lifeskyblue said:
Yes I thought we should have had penalty for the punch to Eccles but I believe the ref probably unsighted so not blaming him.

Equally clearly BTA should have been shown a red but again ref wouldn’t have seen it. And possibly Saka too.

Apart from those thought the ref did ok and didn’t contribute to our poor result and performance
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Referee and linesman unsighted, but they did ok.

 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #374
Think the Eccles one is the sort only VAR gives these days. A bit like the Morocco pen in AFCON which if we got given we’d get and give one away every game.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #375
skybluebristol said:
Thoughts on referee yesterday?

Obviously him/the team missed the elbow (Lino should have picked that up).

I know you never see them given, but does anyone else think we should have had a penalty for the foul on Eccles after his header by the goalkeeper?
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Would have been harsh in one sense, but I can honestly see VAR giving that, once it's slowed down to a frame by frame
 
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skybluebristol

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  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #376
Yeah I mean, if the keeper gets there first and punches it away and Eccles is half a step too late the ref would give the keeper a free kick, so why's it not the same the other way
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 27, 2026
  • #377
What I don't get is that every time Wright went near the defenders it was a foul but they striker was all over Kitching and Thomas every time. Don't get me wrong, he was a nuisance and it worked for them but can't give free kicks against Wright when he does it.

Esse got booked, their players did the same a few times and didn't get booked.

Yep, Keeper was nowhere near the ball and punched Eccles in the face. Not sure how that isn't counted as a foul?

BTA, deffo should have been a red but no idea why the lino didn't see it?

Saka, not sure it was a red, he was kicked a couple of times before hand.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 29, 2026
  • #378
Did anyone see the Champions League highlights last night, the amount of penalties given, just make you wonder if we're playing under different rules.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Jan 29, 2026
  • #379
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Did anyone see the Champions League highlights last night, the amount of penalties given, just make you wonder if we're playing under different rules.
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CL has different threshold for handball certainly. Cracking header by the Benfica keeper for his goal.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 29, 2026
  • #380
Skyblue Bangkok said:
CL has different threshold for handball certainly. Cracking header by the Benfica keeper for his goal.
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So we are playing by different rules then, masterstroke by Jose Mourinho winning the game but needed another goal.
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 29, 2026
  • #381
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Did anyone see the Champions League highlights last night, the amount of penalties given, just make you wonder if we're playing under different rules.
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They are, next question.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 29, 2026
  • #382
Nuskyblue said:
They are, next question.
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Why.
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Jan 30, 2026
  • #383
Sky Blue Pete said:
Sky ref said both were pens that’s got to be nearly 10 this season
At this point you’d hope that the refs would recognise they keep getting it wrong and act accordingly
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I agree with that. Unfortunately he falls to the ground on any contact, outside the area.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Jan 30, 2026
  • #384
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Why.
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I think PGMOL don't follow the same playbook as IFAB on some things I think.
 
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skybluebristol

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  • Jan 30, 2026
  • #385
It's all about the "interpretation" of the tules. The 17 "laws" are the same across everywhere, but different organisations interpret them slightly differently.

It's why you get a load of handball penalties in Europe (refs are much more black and white), whereas over here, we're a lot more balanced and only if it tends to be really obvious.

It's up to the leadership (so Howard Webb and his team) and what they really want to focus on e.g. this year, there's been a lot of work at looking at raising the threshold of what actually is a foul
 
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