Does anybody watch it? Any mention of our game or will it just be for the "big boys"?
Basically he says it was the correct decision.So I can see they have discussed the pen but cant find anything about the offside.
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the do very rarely see a refs decision they don't likeWhat did the refs say about the offside?
the do very rarely see a refs decision they don't like
DERMOT SAYS: "If he'd worn size-eight boots instead of size 10, he would have been given onside. But it's a factual decision."
Sounds like he’s basing his ‘factual decision’ on the incorrect frame…Is offside 100% factual though in some cases?
NoIs offside 100% factual though in some cases?
I saw it they did mention it but they only had stills of the footage concerning the two incidents.Does anybody watch it? Any mention of our game or will it just be for the "big boys"?
Sounds like he’s basing his ‘factual decision’ on the incorrect frame…
It is offside in the given frame but was that the ‘first point of contact?’ Its open to interpretation, but in my view, it’s a dribble move and then he chips it through.
Again, referee’s won’t even call out a referee even when something is horribly wrong - look at the ‘good call lads’ incident from Liverpool v Spurs.
Exactly, I’m sure ‘first point of contact’ was in the context of playing the ball. That’s at least how it used to be interpreted.With this “first point of contact” thing is there an opportunity for a player to scoop it up on his foot, everyone bolt forward and then flick it over to them? The defence would likely try and hold their line but it would already have been ‘set’ in the eyes of VAR.
Love to see someone try it as VAR would be falling over themselves.
Surely there should be a margin of error allowance too.Exactly, I’m sure ‘first point of contact’ was in the context of playing the ball. That’s at least how it used to be interpreted.
You’re right, that scenario you highlight would be ‘onside’ in theory. In practice, you couldn’t see them ruling it onside.
the worst ones are on live games where they won't give their opinion until VAR has come through so they never say the officials got it wrongthe do very rarely see a refs decision they don't like
the bt games that had peter walton was agreeing with everything the ref did were badthe worst ones are on live games where they won't give their opinion until VAR has come through so they never say the officials got it wrong
In this instance, though, it *was* the correct decision based on the instruction they are given.Again, referee’s won’t even call out a referee even when something is horribly wrong
In this instance, though, it *was* the correct decision based on the instruction they are given.
That's the issue, that they are told to give an objective decision on something that cannot be determined with absolute certainty, not when the margins are so fine.
If you must have it, what you do is to use it to back up an on-field decision. So this example; taking into account there is a margin of error, can you say with 100% accuracy if on or offside? No, you can't, so if it's given on the pitch, it stands, if it was flagged, it doesn't. There's too much doubt to overturn it either way.
It's not even bad officiating, it's bad administration.
Bin it off completely anyway, as it takes away spontaneity, and lessens the game as a spectacle.
This is the myth which is why things take too long to change for the betterIs offside 100% factual though in some cases?
i think if the camera was looking along the line they would have given a different decision, as doubt you would see any of wrights foot behind w Bissaka
As per my post on another thread;
Keith Hackett on CWR had just said that the current system is extremely flawed and is not fit/cannot accurately judge these types of decisions - worth a listen if you can get it!
Yes been totally silent from CCFCYep where is the picture in line?
it’s bonkers
I hope the silence form ccfc and the owner is that they are respectfully challenging the call
Of course it isn't, it's a split second, benefit of the doubt alwaysAs per my post on another thread;
Keith Hackett on CWR had just said that the current system is extremely flawed and is not fit/cannot accurately judge these types of decisions - worth a listen if you can get it!
Have had a reply to my email saying coo will review the points I’ve made in detailYes been totally silent from CCFC
No comment from King about the game, thought he might of come out and said how proud he wasHave had a reply to my email saying coo will review the points I’ve made in detail
Yep I find that interestingNo comment from King about the game, thought he might of come out and said how proud he was
That's a really good idea, and for that reason it has no chance of being implemented. Cricket and Rugby rarely seem to have these controversial decisions made by the backroom refs.Create an “umpires call” margin of error and that’ll fix a lot. Just sticks with the on field decision.
But what good will that do?I hope the silence form ccfc and the owner is that they are respectfully challenging the call
Exactly thatBut what good will that do?
You can't tell if it was the right call or not, that's the point, and the officials were just going off the directives they'd been given.
The best to be hoped for is that this will be a catalyst for a change of directive; i.e., that such marginal calls remain as on-field decisions.
If that were to happen I'd want it on BBC ITN main news, every country to know we were wrongly denied a place, UEFA to make a stand, we should be offered a europa sheild spot, people should boycott this years final, I still feel pig sick as you can tellExactly that
I think they’ve used the wrong frame as the law isn’t clear
I don’t know £1m or something would be nice
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