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SBT

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #526
Dasilva certainly didn’t have a great game but he definitely didn’t have a “very bad” one either. I don’t think there’s much controversy to be gleaned from this one.
 

Martin180

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #527
SBT said:
Dasilva certainly didn’t have a great game but he definitely didn’t have a “very bad” one either. I don’t think there’s much controversy to be gleaned from this one.
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On the match thread someone posted they would be happy to never see him in a sky blue shirt again !
And it wasn't Grendel
 

SkyblueTexan

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #528
Teams target JDS for a reason. He’s so short and not very fast that you can easily lob the ball over him and have a pacy winger outrun him. Coincidentally our recent good run of form started after JDS was removed from the starting lineup and Bidwell took his place.

As for the midfield, I think Eccles or Lati are far more careful with the ball than Sheaf who tends to make the errant pass or foul at the most inopportune moments during a match.

While Palmer has improved, he can’t play more than 60 minutes which is frustrating. Same with COH. But I understand both are working to regain their fitness.

Allen and Godden have been very disappointing the last few matches and look lost. Simms has no end product (scoring from the goal line is not a big deal).

On the positive side Collins, the improving Thomas and Wright of late, MVE, Saka, Kitching, Binks, Lati appear to have gelled.

Hope in the Jan window we can get a midfield general and extend COH. Would also be great if we could add more depth in terms of versatile players who can cover multiple positions, but will be tough.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #529
Deleted member 9744 said:
I thought he was fine. Not responsible for either goal or any chances Swansea had that I can remember and linked well with Wright on occasion.

What did you think he did wrong?
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Got done for height on the first?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #530
Deleted member 9744 said:
Well you rated Allen the same as Sheaf and Palmer and above Dasilva. What do you think he did to deserve that? He was responsible for the first goal and gave the ball away on numerous occasions. I am not anti-Allen but he was poor tonight. Seriously how can you say he was as good as Palmer and Sheaf on tonight's performance??
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I explained why on there too. Dasilva was getting exploited countless times with balls over the top and in behind as he lacks pace and height. First goal he gets beaten for height and it happened again not long after but got saved by a terrible finish.

The opposition focused most of their attacks that way for a good reason.
 
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higgs

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #531
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I explained why on there too. Dasilva was getting exploited countless times with balls over the top and in behind as he lacks pace and height. First goal he gets beaten for height and it happened again not long after but got saved by a terrible finish.

The opposition focused most of their attacks that way for a good reason.
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He's poor I don't see why we tried so hard to sign him I'd be shocked if he sees out his 4 yr contract here.simply not good enough for a team challenging to get into the premiership. He cuts back all the time and plays the ball inside he is an accident waiting to happen. We need a left back to offer us width he's too one footed for me it's a no

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TomRad85

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #532
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I explained why on there too. Dasilva was getting exploited countless times with balls over the top and in behind as he lacks pace and height. First goal he gets beaten for height and it happened again not long after but got saved by a terrible finish.

The opposition focused most of their attacks that way for a good reason.
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Whether you rate Dasilva or not, I do find it weird that anyone would pretend he wasn't really poor last night. Swansea figured it out pretty quickly, I just wish Robins did.

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Evo1883

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #533
Haji wright is starting to look the business
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #534
TomRad85 said:
Whether you rate Dasilva or not, I do find it weird that anyone would pretend he wasn't really poor last night. Swansea figured it out pretty quickly, I just wish Robins did.

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He also ignored the ball down the line to Wright multiple times. I don’t think he’s a bad player necessarily and I have defended him earlier in the season, but he was a real weak link last night.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #535
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He also ignored the ball down the line to Wright multiple times. I don’t think he’s a bad player necessarily and I have defended him earlier in the season, but he was a real weak link last night.
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I think his confidence went pretty quickly last night. Didn't look comfortable at all.

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Adge

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #536
It was obvious from the off that Swansea targeted that side. DaSilva didn’t cover himself in glory at all but he has a good song so all is well.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #537
Dasilva is basically not good enough defensively and never will be. That’s his game. He’s tidy enough on the ball and can make and receive a pass. He’s a useful squad player at this level. But when he plays in a flat back 4 there will be an opportunity for any opposition down his flank.
 
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procdoc

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #538
Deleted member 9744 said:
He was absolutely fine and better than Bidwell has been in the last few matches.
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I disagree. They targeted the left hand side as they knew it was out r weakness. Dasilva can’t defend and he’s not great going forward. We are also stuck with him for 4 years now, I just think he’s garbage
 
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procdoc

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #539
Martin180 said:
On the match thread someone posted they would be happy to never see him in a sky blue shirt again !
And it wasn't Grendel
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That was me and if we sold him in January it really wouldn’t bother me. He is rubbish
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #540
slowpoke said:
I keep on about this hoping Robins agrees there’s a finisher and left winger at PNE Liam Millar go and nick him.
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He does look a player, scored a cracking goal against Leeds, and looked a right handful. Plays same position as Wright is?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #541
procdoc said:
I disagree. They targeted the left hand side as they knew it was out r weakness. Dasilva can’t defend and he’s not great going forward. We are also stuck with him for 4 years now, I just think he’s garbage
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I don't think he's that bad but he's definitely inferior to Bidwell and not a good use of a 4 year deal.

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Grendel

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #542
Deleted member 9744 said:
He was absolutely fine and better than Bidwell has been in the last few matches.
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Most posters on the ratings thread rated him as one of the poorest performers
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #543
Martin180 said:
On the match thread someone posted they would be happy to never see him in a sky blue shirt again !
And it wasn't Grendel
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Ive said he’s just a mediocre 6 out of 10 at best and so fairly pointless to offer a 4 year deal for such a player on probably fairly high wages. He’s never going to attract a fee to sell and unlikely will be ever in demand elsewhere
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #544
procdoc said:
I disagree. They targeted the left hand side as they knew it was out r weakness. Dasilva can’t defend and he’s not great going forward. We are also stuck with him for 4 years now, I just think he’s garbage
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@DannyThomas_1981 will be on soon to educate your lack of football knowledge
 

Martin180

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  • Dec 30, 2023
  • #545
Grendel said:
Ive said he’s just a mediocre 6 out of 10 at best and so fairly pointless to offer a 4 year deal for such a player on probably fairly high wages. He’s never going to attract a fee to sell and unlikely will be ever in demand elsewhere
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I thought he started the season well enough but isn't a natural left back for me
 

DannyThomas_1981

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  • Dec 31, 2023
  • #546
Grendel said:
@DannyThomas_1981 will be on soon to educate your lack of football knowledge
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Every season and honestly every game there seems to be a need by some to discredit and target individual players.

It’s getting to the point where I don’t even look at social media during a game (if we are losing - call the fucking Samaritans is my best advice given some of the hysterics) or for a few days after a defeat. I’ve already lost count of the number of players targeted this season - and predictably also the manager if we are out of form. It’s a minority but it’s there across all of social media.

We all have a bias towards certain players but rushing to judge players on performances with all of the different dynamics on and off the pitch (which most of us including me don’t understand at this elite level) - probably not useful.

Constructive criticism might be more useful vs. the need to single out and write players off - there are 1000s of different dynamics impacting a game and it’s all too easy to point the finger at individuals if we lose.

We have the foundations of a very good squad here - I’m not interested in targeting the latest player on the list. Onto tomorrow and an exciting second half of the season.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 31, 2023
  • #547
Martin180 said:
I thought he started the season well enough but isn't a natural left back for me
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He’s played as a LB for most of his career
 

Calista

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  • Dec 31, 2023
  • #548
DannyThomas_1981 said:
if we are losing - call the fucking Samaritans is my best advice given some of the hysterics
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Do the fucking Samaritans offer a fuller service than the normal ones?
 
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DannyThomas_1981

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  • Dec 31, 2023
  • #549
I can only hope so Calista given some of the madness and nonsense on here after a defeat
 
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SBbucks

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  • Dec 31, 2023
  • #550
Cov kid 55 said:
He does look a player, scored a cracking goal against Leeds, and looked a right handful. Plays same position as Wright is?
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He’s on loan for the season at PNE so they are hardly going to send him back early to Basel just so that Basel can sell him to one of PNE’s rivals.


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slowpoke

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #551
SBbucks said:
He’s on loan for the season at PNE so they are hardly going to send him back early to Basel just so that Basel can sell him to one of PNE’s rivals.


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I’m sure I have read Basel will sell.
 
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SBbucks

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #552
slowpoke said:
I’m sure I have read Basel will sell.
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That’s ok then, good to have someone with inside knowledge of Basel’s intentions



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skybluecam

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #553
This thread title gets more hilarious by the week.

With the exception of Ayari, who’s a loan anyway I can’t think of any signings that could be described as shocking.

Simms has a way to go but I have faith and Dasilva looks like a bit of a square peg in a round hole now we’re playing a 4 back but the rest are all looking like great signings.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #554
Title of the thread due for a change surely. Wright, Kitching, Van Ewijk, Sakamoto, Thomas. Looking like absolute steals now.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #555
Looking like some of the best recruitment we've ever done
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #556
 
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Gibbo

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #557
All the players with the exception of Ayari have performed to a greater or lesser extent and we no longer play wing backs that Da Silva is best suited to. In particular the defence based on an aging McFadz and loans is now much better.

But it is factual to say that our two best players have not been replaced - Hamer not at all, less surprisingly no like-for-like for Big Vik. The emergence of Wright has partly offset losing Vik but he is a different sort of player.

A team is the sum of the parts and we are strongly ahead in the areas that have been improved and that is partly offset by the loss of Hamer and Vik. I do miss Vik's swagger
 

Gibbo

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #558
....and I should say, that despite a poor performance today against Boro, there are still question marks over Collins. I thought Ruddy was different class when Brum were here. Commanded the area
 

False9

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #559
False9 said:
The bedwetting from the usual negative posters is going to look very silly in a few months.
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This came in quickly

Where have all the neurotic negative posters gone?
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Jan 1, 2024
  • #560
Gibbo said:
....and I should say, that despite a poor performance today against Boro, there are still question marks over Collins. I thought Ruddy was different class when Brum were here. Commanded the area
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Ruddy was very good. He must be knocking on a bit now though?
 
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