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  • Start date Feb 3, 2023
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #36
Otis said:
Wilson though stayed rooted to his line for two throw-ins into our 6 yard box. Surely he should be coming for those shouldn't he?

I need to rewatch the highlights. Seems several players were at fault for the goal
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Yep and the awful fumble in the first few minutes which should have resulted in us conceding.


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Adge

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #37
WestEndAgro said:
Eccles and Burroughs need to be starting, let's develop our own.
There's nothing better than seeing Cov lad's come through the academy and make the first team, oh and this isn't sentiment they are both better talents than the two on loan.
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If they are good enough yes. Shouldn’t get a free pass just because they are academy players like so many have in the past.
 

stupot07

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #38
Adge said:
If they are good enough yes. Shouldn’t get a free pass just because they are academy players like so many have in the past.
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Eccles is miles ahead of Norton-Cuffy.

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Tommo1993

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #39
Dike - 1. Luckily he’s garbage
 
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SAJ

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #40
PVA said:
He wasn't, he started 14 games out of 20 for them.
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He completed 6 full matches in his time at Rotherham so effectively he’s a substitute.
 
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SAJ

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #41
ccfc1234 said:
If you re watch the Burnley game be was one of our best players on the day. That was when he played ahead of Dabo at RB. Since we have gone back to 3 at the back and asked him to play wing back he looks lost and not sure when to attack and defend. Seen enough to think he will be a good option even if that's off the bench but someone needs to drill some positional sense into him so he takes up offensive and defensive positions that effect the game.
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Against Burnley he was fucked after 60 minutes.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #42
Would struggle to give anything more than 5-6s with maybe hamer getting a 7 purely for effort even though his passing was also off
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #43
junglej13 said:
West Brom are a very good side and showed it tonight. We weren't great but not awful either. Panzo could do with coming out the side for McFadzean in my opinion. Also Godden should come back in for Allen and go back to two up front. Decent run of games coming up and a chance to get back on the front foot.
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the thought of palmer in Allen’s role is genuinely funny
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #44
SAJ said:
He completed 6 full matches in his time at Rotherham so effectively he’s a substitute.
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #45
Send BNC and JWE back TBH. Seen nothing to suggest they’re the answer.
olderskyblue said:
You have to smile really. Yok, who was terrible tonight, gets 6, while Allen, who should have had 2 assists tonight as he set Yok up for 2 tap ins, gets 4....

Do you watch over Hamer with the same critical eye? because he was well below standard tonight, so many of his passes went to WBA, or out for throw ins. 7? you must be joking. He may have been the best of the bunch, but a 7 is miles off. One free kick, which was easy for the keeper to clear, can't add that many points on can it?
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He was head and shoulders above the rest so he gets a comparative 7. He did more to get us ticking than anyone else. He made some bad passes that’s why he’s not higher but he actually tried to make things happen.

I don’t think Vik was terrible tonight. He missed a sitter, which he does a lot. He just wasn’t brilliant.

Allen was poor and being handed the ball in the final third and asked to pass it three yards doesn’t change that TBH.

I rate players over 90 minutes not on their highlight reel.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #46
shmmeee said:
Send BNC and JWE back TBH. Seen nothing to suggest they’re the answer.


He was head and shoulders above the rest so he gets a comparative 7. He did more to get us ticking than anyone else. He made some bad passes that’s why he’s not higher but he actually tried to make things happen.

I don’t think Vik was terrible tonight. He missed a sitter, which he does a lot. He just wasn’t brilliant.

Allen was poor and being handed the ball in the final third and asked to pass it three yards doesn’t change that TBH.

I rate players over 90 minutes not on their highlight reel.
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Allen made the two best chances of the night
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #47
Grendel said:
Allen made the two best chances of the night
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Well technically speaking Gus and the West Brom defender made the two best chances. Allen made two simple passes.

Regardless, what did he do for the other 95 minutes and 45 seconds?
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #48
Brighton Sky Blue said:
McNally and Hamer 7
Everyone else who started 5 except Panzo, 4

Eccles 6
Godden 6
Ghost Maguire 5

Really is a pity that Moore has turned into the goalkeeping version of a cat that pisses on the floor
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First time watching McNally, actually thought it was Rose on the pitch at first and thought shock Rose is playing shite again and then realised he wasn’t on the pitch and it was actually McNally… wasn’t impressed.

He was at fault in the build up to their goal


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Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #49
shmmeee said:
Well technically speaking Gus and the West Brom defender made the two best chances. Allen made two simple passes.

Regardless, what did he do for the other 95 minutes and 45 seconds?
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you are just being irrational - His was involved twice in the first chance and created the second

He was involved in the game more than two others - what did palmer and sheaf do last night
 

Skybluedownunder

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #50
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Someone’s given Wilson a 7 which truly bewilders me. Can only assume they didn’t go. Was all over the place tonight. Not on his own mind. Hard to single out anyone for praise, perhaps Hamer & sheaf. We were really poor against a better side who didn’t have to get out of second gear


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Agreed, the fact we’ve got him for another 2
And a half years really pisses me off


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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #51
Skybluedownunder said:
First time watching McNally, actually thought it was Rose on the pitch at first and thought shock Rose is playing shite again and then realised he wasn’t on the pitch and it was actually McNally… wasn’t impressed.

He was at fault in the build up to their goal


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Wilson rooted to his line, Doyle hopelessly mistiming a jump. He bailed out his colleagues more than once.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #52
Otis said:
Been very disappointed with Norton-Cuffy so far.
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I hope we haven’t some stupid arrangement where we agree to play him - Rotherham had had enough of him in their starting line up.

We may as well have kept Kane - bonkers signing
 
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PVA

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #53
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Wilson rooted to his line, Doyle hopelessly mistiming a jump. He bailed out his colleagues more than once.
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Yeah Mcnally was by far the pick of the defenders last night

We'll be a lot more solid with him alongside Fadz and with no Panzo
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #54
Otis said:
Wilson though stayed rooted to his line for two throw-ins into our 6 yard box. Surely he should be coming for those shouldn't he?

I need to rewatch the highlights. Seems several players were at fault for the goal
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I think his decision making to come and catch the ball from throw ins etc disappeared when he fluffed that high ball he came for and missed early on.
 

shmmeee

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #55
Grendel said:
you are just being irrational - His was involved twice in the first chance and created the second

He was involved in the game more than two others - what did palmer and sheaf do last night
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He did not create the second, the WBA player who made a terrible pass made the second.

Palmer continually drew fouls and nearly scored if his shot wasn’t blocked, he also tried to break the lines something Allen never does. Always sideways and backwards which for an AM is criminal. Allen look surprised every time he receives the ball and has the touch of a brick wall. At one point his touch was so bad he took us from the edge of their area to the halfway line chasing the ball.

Sheaf made 7 tackles, more than the back three combined.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #56
Sheaf plays a very short, awkward waist height ball to Allen who fails to keep it under control and loses possession - Allen’s fault.

Allen plays a neat pass to an unchallenged Palmer’s feet, Palmer loses possession with a shit touch - Allen’s fault.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #57
shmmeee said:
He did not create the second, the WBA player who made a terrible pass made the second.

Palmer continually drew fouls and nearly scored if his shot wasn’t blocked, he also tried to break the lines something Allen never does. Always sideways and backwards which for an AM is criminal. Allen look surprised every time he receives the ball and has the touch of a brick wall. At one point his touch was so bad he took us from the edge of their area to the halfway line chasing the ball.

Sheaf made 7 tackles, more than the back three combined.
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you are either wumming or utterly clueless
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #58
If wehave a player on loan there should be no stipulation they automatiiclly play .If the other club don't like it no deal.Any player we have on loan gets in on merit not at the expence of onother squad member.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #59
Skybluedownunder said:
First time watching McNally, actually thought it was Rose on the pitch at first and thought shock Rose is playing shite again and then realised he wasn’t on the pitch and it was actually McNally… wasn’t impressed.

He was at fault in the build up to their goal


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Yes I thought McNally was poor. Everyone is over marking him because he was good on his debut.

Hamer yet again by far our best player. Gyokeres is the only one who gets near him but he has been poor since Christmas.
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #60
Although I am not Allens biggest fan in the early stages last night he was involved in some decent 1 touch passages of play and I have to say Maquire made Allen seem like De Bruyne when he came on, lets hope he was just overwhelmed by the occasion and not a standard of things to come...McNally had plenty of covering to do with Cuffy, Panzo and to a lesser extent Doyle and all Viktor got last night was balls humped up to him so by the time he had managed to bring them down 3 players around him had robbed him of it. We were outclassed last night their midfield was on the night at least a lot better than ours although it took one of the longest throws I can remember to actually score from aided by 'Oh its over me, fuck me I hadn't better go to catch that otherwise I'll look a twat again' defending!
 

Sick Boy

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #61
Deleted member 9744 said:
Yes I thought McNally was poor. Everyone is over marking him because he was good on hiss debut.

Hamer yet again by far our best player. Gyokeres is the only one who gets near him but he has been poor since Christmas.
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It’s because he’s surrounded by inferior players to the most part - he’s at his best when CoH is on the pitch.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #62
Tommo1993 said:
Sheaf plays a very short, awkward waist height ball to Allen who fails to keep it under control and loses possession - Allen’s fault.

Allen plays a neat pass to an unchallenged Palmer’s feet, Palmer loses possession with a shit touch - Allen’s fault.
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Sheaf was one of the worst players on the pitch again, but largely gets away with it. I'm not a massive fan of Allen, and didn't think he was good either, but he's certainly more favourable to have a go at.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #63
Sick Boy said:
It’s because he’s surrounded by inferior players to the most part - he’s at his best when CoH is on the pitch.
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O hare presses the opposition on the ball and forced them into our central midfield while when we are pressing forward he links closely with Gyokeres and / or Godden

Palmer offers none of that - he has to have the ball to feet and move from there - the notion palmer could play in a midfield 3 with hamer and sheaf is mind boggling
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #64
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Sheaf was one of the worst players on the pitch again, but largely gets away with it. I'm not a massive fan of Allen, and didn't think he was good either, but he's certainly more favourable to have a go at.
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100%. You’ll find bigger Allen fans than me, certainly. But he’s not the elephant in the room, or squad.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #65
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Sheaf was one of the worst players on the pitch again, but largely gets away with it. I'm not a massive fan of Allen, and didn't think he was good either, but he's certainly more favourable to have a go at.
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I rate Sheaf much higher than Allen, but yes Sheaf was worse last night. Doesn't change my view that Sheaf is a good Championship player and Allen is not good enough to play consistently at this level.

Issue is some people make their minds up about how players will play before the match. You can predict their markings beforehand. Depending on their view on the Allen/Palmer debate they will mark their favourite higher regardless of how they play.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #66
Deleted member 9744 said:
I rate Sheaf much higher than Allen, but yes Sheaf was worse last night. Doesn't change my view that Sheaf is a good Championship player and Allen is not good enough to play consistently at this level.

Issue is some people make their minds up about how players will play before the match. You can predict their markings beforehand. Depending on their view on the Allen/Palmer debate they will mark their favourite higher regardless of how they play.
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Palmer will always have plaudits ahead of Allen as on some occasions the Hollywood through ball works or he scores a notable goal. His career to date shows more than anything the player he actually is and the reality is if o hare was fit Allen would still be starting and palmer wouldn’t
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Feb 4, 2023
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Grendel said:
Palmer will always have plaudits ahead of Allen as on some occasions the Hollywood through ball works or he scores a notable goal. His career to date shows more than anything the player he actually is and the reality is if o hare was fit Allen would still be starting and palmer wouldn’t
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You're proving my point.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #68
Deleted member 9744 said:
You're proving my point.
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I’m not as most managers would pick Allen every time if they were asking the player to play the Allen role - palmer is another strange signing
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #69
Blind-Faith said:
Wilson 7
Bidwell 6
McNally 6
Doyle 5
Panzo 5
Cuffy 5
Hamer 6
Sheaf 6
Allen 5
Palmer 5
Vik 5

Not a good evening
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How do you give Panzo a 5?
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Feb 4, 2023
  • #70
Wilson 7 (was more confident than normal)
McNally 6 (best out bad cbs)
Doyle 5 (probably the worst this season)
Panzo 2 (clumsy and can’t pass a ball 2 ft)
BNC 2 (rather have dabo or Kane)
Hamer 8 (motm but still pretty poor)
Sheaf 6 (started slow grew into it but to late)
Bidwell 6 (done his job nothing more)
Allen 4 (did he play?)
Palmer 5 (don’t nothing)
Gyokeres 6 (marked out the game)

JWE 6 (most effective sub)
Eccles 5 (had one go move with a shit cross)
Godden 4 (don’t think he touched the ball)
Maguire 4 (don’t think he got out our own half)


won’t judge subs to much so take with lunch if salt when they was in we was already pinned back, and when we won the ball panzo just gave it back to them.
 
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