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alexccfc99

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  • Monday at 2:37 PM
  • #141
Ccfcisparks said:
Its Akin to the Welsh division.

Celtic being TNS
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To be pedantic - Hearts have a bloody good shot at winning it this year, Celtic look beatable, Rangers are miles off

If there is a season where there can be a title race involving another side it is this one
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Monday at 2:38 PM
  • #142
It's gonna be Gerrard isn't it...
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Monday at 2:46 PM
  • #143
alexccfc99 said:
To be pedantic - Hearts have a bloody good shot at winning it this year, Celtic look beatable, Rangers are miles off

If there is a season where there can be a title race involving another side it is this one
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Hearts wont keep it up. Celtic will win at a canter
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Monday at 2:49 PM
  • #144
What are the reasons for the decline of Scottish football? My view is the reorganisation of European club competitions as subservient to the CL is the main one but what are the others?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Monday at 2:56 PM
  • #145
fernandopartridge said:
What are the reasons for the decline of Scottish football? My view is the reorganisation of European club competitions as subservient to the CL is the main one but what are the others?
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Before the amount of TV money in the game took off, the resources of Scottish clubs was a lot closer to those in other leagues. As the gulf in commercial income has grown so has the gulf in performance. Celtic are a pretty successful brand internationally which has kept them somewhat competitive but even they have struggled of course.

Rangers of course destroyed themselves in a tax dodging scam, which is ironic given their sectarian politics
 

Shannerz

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  • Monday at 3:17 PM
  • #146
fernandopartridge said:
What are the reasons for the decline of Scottish football? My view is the reorganisation of European club competitions as subservient to the CL is the main one but what are the others?
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Celtic fan I work with says the rot started with Souness at Rangers in the 80s.

They were an attractive prospect as they had loads of money and European football (which English clubs did not have), so lots of top English players went there.

He thinks that lots of the other clubs saw their success and tried to follow the lead, so rather than invest in young local talent, and the means required to develop it, clubs invested in bringing in players from elsewhere. As well as hurting the number of good players coming through, it also meant that good players would move out of Scotland, rather than develop locally.

So short-termism, essentially (bane of the modern world).
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Monday at 6:19 PM
  • #147
Tell you what is even more gutting… Martin was basically a shoe in for the Leicester job in the summer what a laugh that could have been
 

no_loyalty

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  • Monday at 6:37 PM
  • #148
They will probably just go for Danny Rohl.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Monday at 6:58 PM
  • #149
Can say it's shit all you want not sure how any football fan can't enjoy a Glasgow or Edinburgh derby
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Monday at 7:22 PM
  • #150
covcity4life said:
Can say it's shit all you want not sure how any football fan can't enjoy a Glasgow or Edinburgh derby
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Used to enjoy the old firm but the standard, and the in small / no ticket allocation for the visitors have taken a lot out of it. I don't think there has been a really good one since the original Rangers existed.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Monday at 7:37 PM
  • #151
It was great when Celtic had Larsson and co and Rangers had Michael Mols and co. Now its just dire. No point in lying about the standard, most Championship fixtures will be a better watch.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Monday at 7:40 PM
  • #152
covcity4life said:
Can say it's shit all you want not sure how any football fan can't enjoy a Glasgow or Edinburgh derby
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I enjoy it the same way I’d enjoy the Plymouth/Exeter Derby

If you’ve got no emotional attachment then the standard is all you’ve got left. Just angry sectarian crap in the stands whilst watching substandard football
 
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covcity4life

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  • Monday at 7:41 PM
  • #153
Other than the last one I have enjoyed every old firm in last 5 years despite standard of league
 

TomRad85

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  • Monday at 7:41 PM
  • #154
Look at these line ups from 2000! Nearly all of these players would be the best player in the SPL if there now.
 

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David O'Day

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  • Monday at 7:52 PM
  • #155
fernandopartridge said:
What are the reasons for the decline of Scottish football? My view is the reorganisation of European club competitions as subservient to the CL is the main one but what are the others?
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Celtic last year where very close to besting Bayern last year. It's this season only and it was a recruitment fuck up during the summer where they failed to sign anyone until the last couple of days.
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Monday at 8:12 PM
  • #156
TomRad85 said:
Look at these line ups from 2000! Nearly all of these players would be the best player in the SPL if there now.
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That’s probably why Rangers ended up going to the wall though and why Celtic were also perilously close to doing the same in the 90s - Scottish Football was and never will be sustainable enough to have players like that playing in it during their prime
 

TomRad85

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  • Monday at 8:16 PM
  • #157
alexccfc99 said:
That’s probably why Rangers ended up going to the wall though and why Celtic were also perilously close to doing the same in the 90s - Scottish Football was and never will be sustainable enough to have players like that playing in it during their prime
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Of course that's the reason. It was still fun though.
 
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Farmer Jim

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  • Monday at 9:13 PM
  • #158
Wyken Sky Blue said:
It's gonna be Gerrard isn't it...
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Hope it`s Dyche, he`ll finish them off for good.
 

Farmer Jim

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  • Monday at 9:14 PM
  • #159
David O'Day said:
Celtic last year where very close to besting Bayern last year. It's this season only and it was a recruitment fuck up during the summer where they failed to sign anyone until the last couple of days.
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Plus, they signed a load of duds too.
 
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wingy

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  • Monday at 9:48 PM
  • #160
Shannerz said:
Celtic fan I work with says the rot started with Souness at Rangers in the 80s.

They were an attractive prospect as they had loads of money and European football (which English clubs did not have), so lots of top English players went there.

He thinks that lots of the other clubs saw their success and tried to follow the lead, so rather than invest in young local talent, and the means required to develop it, clubs invested in bringing in players from elsewhere. As well as hurting the number of good players coming through, it also meant that good players would move out of Scotland, rather than develop locally.

So short-termism, essentially (bane of the modern world).
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I think there's some truth in that, when was the last time we went for Scottish talent Gallagher?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Monday at 11:24 PM
  • #161
The Viennese derby has a great atmosphere. Don’t see weird English blokes with rapid Vienna obsessions though.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Monday at 11:26 PM
  • #162
wingy said:
I think there's some truth in that, when was the last time we went for Scottish talent Gallagher?
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Eoin Jess probably
 
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David O'Day

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  • Monday at 11:45 PM
  • #163
Farmer Jim said:
Plus, they signed a load of duds too.
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even players who should have been good

Joe Rothwell looks like he now smokes 40 a day and has 10 pints after work.
 
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wingy

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  • Tuesday at 12:22 AM
  • #164
Liquid Gold said:
The Viennese derby has a great atmosphere. Don’t see weird English blokes with rapid Vienna obsessions though.
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They're all Man U arent they?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Tuesday at 12:42 AM
  • #165
fernandopartridge said:
Eoin Jess probably
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Surely Fleck
 

covcity4life

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  • Tuesday at 8:39 AM
  • #166
David O'Day said:
Celtic last year where very close to besting Bayern last year. It's this season only and it was a recruitment fuck up during the summer where they failed to sign anyone until the last couple of days.
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And let's not forget rangers got the Europa league final not long ago

I'm sure it just slipped your mind of course
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Tuesday at 10:07 AM
  • #167
wingy said:
I think there's some truth in that, when was the last time we went for Scottish talent Gallagher?
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Depending on your definition of talent we paid Ross County for a left back who never played. Before that, I think the last Scotsmen we signed from that league were David McNamee and James McPake
 
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alexccfc99

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  • Tuesday at 10:18 AM
  • #168
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Depending on your definition of talent we paid Ross County for a left back who never played. Before that, I think the last Scotsmen we signed from that league were David McNamee and James McPake
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We signed Fleck from Rangers when they went to the wall in 2012

Pretty sure Pressley signed his ex team mate Andy Webster from Hearts as well
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Tuesday at 10:45 AM
  • #169
alexccfc99 said:
We signed Fleck from Rangers when they went to the wall in 2012

Pretty sure Pressley signed his ex team mate Andy Webster from Hearts as well
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I had kind of erased Andy Webster from my memory to be honest.
 
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ccfc1292

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  • Tuesday at 10:51 AM
  • #170
fernandopartridge said:
Used to enjoy the old firm but the standard, and the in small / no ticket allocation for the visitors have taken a lot out of it. I don't think there has been a really good one since the original Rangers existed.
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Agree with @covcity4life and yourself, it's a great watch normally but all excitement has been taken out of it. Hardly any cards/reds etc now and the last one was a borefest.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Tuesday at 11:11 AM
  • #171
ccfc1292 said:
Agree with @covcity4life and yourself, it's a great watch normally but all excitement has been taken out of it. Hardly any cards/reds etc now and the last one was a borefest.
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The last one was but usually it's full of tough tackles and great atmosphere. It's one of the few remaining games that reminds me of the good old days

Boca Vs river plate same. Always fun watching even if the teams not on top of their game.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Tuesday at 12:24 PM
  • #172
covcity4life said:
And let's not forget rangers got the Europa league final not long ago

I'm sure it just slipped your mind of course
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Hell no, them signing Aaron Ramsey and then him missing the pen that cost them the final was one of the funniest things I have ever seen and I do like to think about it a lot as it makes me smile.

So pipe down.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Tuesday at 12:55 PM
  • #173
fernandopartridge said:
What are the reasons for the decline of Scottish football? My view is the reorganisation of European club competitions as subservient to the CL is the main one but what are the others?
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This will probably only be a part of it but I'd imagine the hoarding by PL clubs of academy players can't help.

Traditionally the SPL was a league which gave young talented players a platform to build their careers and now I can barely think of any which are coming through that are very highly rated.

Now they're all being swept up by PL clubs in the academy before they get a chance to actually break through.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Tuesday at 2:33 PM
  • #174
David O'Day said:
Hell no, them signing Aaron Ramsey and then him missing the pen that cost them the final was one of the funniest things I have ever seen and I do like to think about it a lot as it makes me smile.

So pipe down.
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So passionate!!

Do you like cov too?
 

David O'Day

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  • Tuesday at 2:43 PM
  • #175
covcity4life said:
So passionate!!

Do you like cov too?
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i guess so given i've had a season ticket for over 20 years (apart from northampton)
 
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