alexccfc99
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To be pedantic - Hearts have a bloody good shot at winning it this year, Celtic look beatable, Rangers are miles off
If there is a season where there can be a title race involving another side it is this one
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If there is a season where there can be a title race involving another side it is this one
Wyken Sky Blue
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It's gonna be Gerrard isn't it...
Ccfcisparks
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Hearts wont keep it up. Celtic will win at a canter
fernandopartridge
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What are the reasons for the decline of Scottish football? My view is the reorganisation of European club competitions as subservient to the CL is the main one but what are the others?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Before the amount of TV money in the game took off, the resources of Scottish clubs was a lot closer to those in other leagues. As the gulf in commercial income has grown so has the gulf in performance. Celtic are a pretty successful brand internationally which has kept them somewhat competitive but even they have struggled of course.
Rangers of course destroyed themselves in a tax dodging scam, which is ironic given their sectarian politics
Shannerz
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Celtic fan I work with says the rot started with Souness at Rangers in the 80s.
They were an attractive prospect as they had loads of money and European football (which English clubs did not have), so lots of top English players went there.
He thinks that lots of the other clubs saw their success and tried to follow the lead, so rather than invest in young local talent, and the means required to develop it, clubs invested in bringing in players from elsewhere. As well as hurting the number of good players coming through, it also meant that good players would move out of Scotland, rather than develop locally.
So short-termism, essentially (bane of the modern world).
alexccfc99
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Tell you what is even more gutting… Martin was basically a shoe in for the Leicester job in the summer what a laugh that could have been
no_loyalty
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They will probably just go for Danny Rohl.
covcity4life
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Can say it's shit all you want not sure how any football fan can't enjoy a Glasgow or Edinburgh derby
fernandopartridge
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Used to enjoy the old firm but the standard, and the in small / no ticket allocation for the visitors have taken a lot out of it. I don't think there has been a really good one since the original Rangers existed.
HuckerbyDublinWhelan
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I enjoy it the same way I’d enjoy the Plymouth/Exeter Derby
If you’ve got no emotional attachment then the standard is all you’ve got left. Just angry sectarian crap in the stands whilst watching substandard football
covcity4life
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Other than the last one I have enjoyed every old firm in last 5 years despite standard of league
David O'Day
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Celtic last year where very close to besting Bayern last year. It's this season only and it was a recruitment fuck up during the summer where they failed to sign anyone until the last couple of days.
alexccfc99
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That’s probably why Rangers ended up going to the wall though and why Celtic were also perilously close to doing the same in the 90s - Scottish Football was and never will be sustainable enough to have players like that playing in it during their prime
TomRad85
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Of course that's the reason. It was still fun though.
Farmer Jim
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Hope it`s Dyche, he`ll finish them off for good.
Farmer Jim
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Plus, they signed a load of duds too.
I think there's some truth in that, when was the last time we went for Scottish talent Gallagher?
Liquid Gold
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The Viennese derby has a great atmosphere. Don’t see weird English blokes with rapid Vienna obsessions though.
fernandopartridge
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Eoin Jess probably
David O'Day
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even players who should have been good
Joe Rothwell looks like he now smokes 40 a day and has 10 pints after work.
They're all Man U arent they?
Liquid Gold
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Surely Fleck
covcity4life
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And let's not forget rangers got the Europa league final not long ago
I'm sure it just slipped your mind of course
Brighton Sky Blue
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Depending on your definition of talent we paid Ross County for a left back who never played. Before that, I think the last Scotsmen we signed from that league were David McNamee and James McPake
alexccfc99
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We signed Fleck from Rangers when they went to the wall in 2012
Pretty sure Pressley signed his ex team mate Andy Webster from Hearts as well
Brighton Sky Blue
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I had kind of erased Andy Webster from my memory to be honest.
ccfc1292
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Agree with @covcity4life and yourself, it's a great watch normally but all excitement has been taken out of it. Hardly any cards/reds etc now and the last one was a borefest.
covcity4life
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The last one was but usually it's full of tough tackles and great atmosphere. It's one of the few remaining games that reminds me of the good old days
Boca Vs river plate same. Always fun watching even if the teams not on top of their game.
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David O'Day
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Hell no, them signing Aaron Ramsey and then him missing the pen that cost them the final was one of the funniest things I have ever seen and I do like to think about it a lot as it makes me smile.
So pipe down.
KenilworthSkyBlue
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This will probably only be a part of it but I'd imagine the hoarding by PL clubs of academy players can't help.
Traditionally the SPL was a league which gave young talented players a platform to build their careers and now I can barely think of any which are coming through that are very highly rated.
Now they're all being swept up by PL clubs in the academy before they get a chance to actually break through.
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covcity4life
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David O'Day
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i guess so given i've had a season ticket for over 20 years (apart from northampton)