Woah woah put the brakes on. I never said they were, I said I was surprised they weren't being from that generation - a whole world of difference.Nope, it runs all through OFAH allt he way through... albeit I didn't watch the comeback specials as they're shit.
And FWIW you can keep going with this, and my parents have their faults, including age related issues with presentation of certain issues, but racist language in any form certainly isn't one of them. It's a bit stupid to keep trying to challenge that when you don't know them really and, as I said, I'm not trying to do some kind of racist one-upmanship - it's just how it was and is with them. Call them progressive in that sense if you like, I don't really care... but it is how it is.
How can you not stand Shakespeare?I understand the point and not purposefully trying to be argumentative (perhaps it's becuase I can't stand Shakespeare) but I don't see how it differs from the old sitcoms I mentioned. Whether they were ever even funny in the first place is questionable, but surely it shouls be one rule either all in or all out and not only allow WS becuase he's classic and it was ok but then ban Alf Garnett.
I think it stems from being dragged along to the RSC on a school trip. Teacher wetting himself and we're all looking around thinking wtf is he on? Blatantly forced outward laughing and not remotely funny. We found our own entertainment throwing sugar lumps we'd collected from the cafe beforehand at kids from other schools.How can you not stand Shakespeare?
Even if you’re not a fan you can surely appreciate him.
It’s a saying so off the era. It’s clearly wrong to use at any point in time but it happened and there’s nothing to be gained by deleting it from re-runs of old sitcoms to pretend it didn’t. Leave it in, make people be uncomfortable that it was ever used, it serves the purpose of showing us how far we’ve come. Also how far there is still to go.“P*ki shop” bit floored me.
SHFWCIt’s a saying so off the era. It’s clearly wrong to use at any point in time but it happened and there’s nothing to be gained by deleting it from re-runs of old sitcoms to pretend it didn’t. Leave it in, make people be uncomfortable that it was ever used, it serves the purpose of showing us how far we’ve come. Also how far there is still to go.
How can you not stand Shakespeare?
tbf, his 'comedies' are shit!How can you not stand Shakespeare?
Even if you’re not a fan you can surely appreciate him.
one for the kids againWhat about Shakespeares Sister? Can they 'Stay'.
I am so, so sorry.
Woah woah put the brakes on. I never said they were, I said I was surprised they weren't being from that generation - a whole world of difference.
I bet somebody has...To compare Shakespeare with Love thy neighbour in it's place in history is quite a stretch....
I don't think I ever used P*ki, but I did used to use Ch*nky. No-one out of my friends and I ever knew it was inappropriate. We thought it was okay and not a slur at all.Your prerogative (if I could spell it!) but I'd be amazed if there was a person who posts on here that was around in the 70s & 80s who has never used that term for the shop and it would be quite a leap for me to suggest the entire forum is racist. You hear everyone else saying it including at home and and think it's ok to repeat until it's pointed out otherwise.
Was Shakespeare a racist and should his work be banned or changed to fit in with modern times?
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That happened to me once when I went for an audition and they sort of gave me the part, but then gave it to someone else.I don’t consider people saying ‘coloured’ anywhere near the same level as there other 2 phrases personally. At least people saying coloured were trying to be nice.
My mum still calls herself half-cast which is outdated, that’s another one.
I was born in ‘84 and the ‘p word’ was rife when I was growing up - never felt the need to use it though because it was clearly a racist term. I’d wager those who used it the most back then still use it now - I used to know a guy you’d deliberately say half of it and then say “oh sorry I mean Asians” - needless to say we ended up having a punch upYour prerogative (if I could spell it!) but I'd be amazed if there was a person who posts on here that was around in the 70s & 80s who has never used that term for the shop and it would be quite a leap for me to suggest the entire forum is racist. You hear everyone else saying it including at home and and think it's ok to repeat until it's pointed out otherwise.
I actually heard it in conversation about 4 years ago. I had a gas engineer around to remove an old gas fire and when he finished the job he said put that old fire on things for sale on Facebook and some paki will give you £40 for it. I told him not to use language like that in my house and he played the victim like I was in the wrong. Never used him again, it cost him a new central heating system for a 4 bed. Yeah that’s right, I cancelled him.I was born in ‘84 and the ‘p word’ was rife when I was growing up - never felt the need to use it though because it was clearly a racist term. I’d wager those who used it the most back then still use it now - I used to know a guy you’d deliberately say half of it and then say “oh sorry I mean Asians” - needless to say we ended up having a punch up
And then he came to me and charged me half price and said "That Tony's a bit of a prick isn't he."I actually heard it in conversation about 4 years ago. I had a gas engineer around to remove an old gas fire and when he finished the job he said put that old fire on things for sale on Facebook and some paki will give you £40 for it. I told him not to use language like that in my house and he played the victim like I was in the wrong. Never used him again, it cost him a new central heating system for a 4 bed. Yeah that’s right, I cancelled him.
I was born in ‘84 and the ‘p word’ was rife when I was growing up - never felt the need to use it though because it was clearly a racist term. I’d wager those who used it the most back then still use it now - I used to know a guy you’d deliberately say half of it and then say “oh sorry I mean Asians” - needless to say we ended up having a punch up
Was very popular in US films for quite a while, maybe even still used now, but not so sure.I was born in the mid 70’s and both of the words mentioned were used and I may have used them in the past growing up but I don’t now, there are loads of words that have gone with good reason the local shop was the Indian shop though. The use of the term retard is being used more and more and is one that I really hate and does me feel quite sad when people say it at work.
I used to go out with a Punjabi girl back in the day and her family were exactly the same.I was in my local waiting for a mate, and this asian guy comes to the bar to ordert a drink, and we start chatting. After 10 minutes or so, his pals turn up and he goes off to sit down. My Indian neighbour (who I didnt know was in the pub) came up to me and tells me I shouldnt be talking to the asian guy, as he's a very bad man. I ask why, and he keeps repeating he's a very bad man. I ask what has he done, and he eventually says "he's Pakistani" as if that answers the question ??
tbf, he was a great neighbour and his family were all very nice, but clearly a racist.
I think I may have set his son off on his current career path too, as I advised him to head off to the States given his grades and what his ambitions were. He did that, and has had lots of success. (I'm still waiting for my Tesla as a thank you....)
It’s the ever increasing Americanisation of the country.I was born in the mid 70’s and both of the words mentioned were used and I may have used them in the past growing up but I don’t now, there are loads of words that have gone with good reason the local shop was the Indian shop though. The use of the term retard is being used more and more and is one that I really hate and does me feel quite sad when people say it at work.
That's all well and good but where do we stand on twunt? I'd hate people to think it's ok when I actually want it to be offensive.I was born in the mid 70’s and both of the words mentioned were used and I may have used them in the past growing up but I don’t now, there are loads of words that have gone with good reason the local shop was the Indian shop though. The use of the term retard is being used more and more and is one that I really hate and does me feel quite sad when people say it at work.
what a dickholeThat's all well and good but where do we stand on twunt? I'd hate people to think it's ok when I actually want it to be offensive.
Spastic is the one I remember from my childhood. Allegedly the reason that The Spastic Society changed its name to Scope was as a result of the negative nature the name took on.I was born in the mid 70’s and both of the words mentioned were used and I may have used them in the past growing up but I don’t now, there are loads of words that have gone with good reason the local shop was the Indian shop though. The use of the term retard is being used more and more and is one that I really hate and does me feel quite sad when people say it at work.
Now people just call you a scope.Spastic is the one I remember from my childhood. Allegedly the reason that The Spastic Society changed its name to Scope was as a result of the negative nature the name took on.
Last person I heard use the term p**i c*nt was an Indian lad at jaguar Land rover , true story
Yeh same, well not at Jaguar Land Rover but when I was young I used to have a part time job at a wholesaler, Indians and Pakistanis would slag each other off constantly. Didn't even realise it was a thing until then.Last person I heard use the term p**i c*nt was an Indian lad at jaguar Land rover , true story
Agreed on all points. But then the 70s was a period in time and social commentary from that is equal to social commentary in the 16th century. So again I ask, why is it ok to cancel one like it never happened and not the other? I think we're all just repeating the same points.
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