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Not doing something doesn't make you racist, the same as not wearing a poppy doesn't mean you're anti soldiers who've served in battle.
Telling people the British Legion fella trying to sell a poppy outside M&S should stop as there's no point to it is less of a good look, however. If you double down and boo him as he sits at his table, that probably doesn't help, too.
What's your take then, they shouldn't do anything because it might be made up? I'd imagine they'd be looking for cctv and corroborating statements from other witnesses. Weird use of the word 'grassed' as well, like he should have just shut up and accepted it.
Taking the knee is pointless and just a way for clubs to pretend they’re doing something meaningful to combat racism without actually doing something meaningful to combat racism. My black friend, who I attend games with, and I both hold this view so I suppose we’re both racist.
The fact they ejected him right then suggests there were grounds for it. I agree that cctv is unlikely to provide unequivocal proof, they have probably gone with the statements of several witnesses. Ultinately neither of us know, i just doubt he's been booted out if completely innocent, it doesn't seem credible.Unless there is solid evidence and not just the word of the fan/player, I don’t think they should eject someone. Sets a horrible precedent. If it was just verbal abuse, I highly doubt CCTV camera footage could confirm with absolute certainty that the supporter was being racist.
So it’s okay for 2 players of different ethnicity’s to not support an anti racism gesture in front of 20k people. Does that not make them anti anti racism by the definition provided by the sbt police?
Why is that better than someone on a forum saying they don’t agree with it when clearly 2 players have shown they do not?
Unless there is solid evidence and not just the word of the fan/player, I don’t think they should eject someone. Sets a horrible precedent. If it was just verbal abuse, I highly doubt CCTV camera footage could confirm with absolute certainty that the supporter was being racist.
Didn't even hear about it until this but good to see the club taking swift action
STATEMENT: Racist incident at Stoke City game
Coventry City was made aware of a report of racist abuse directed at a Stoke City player during the warm-up on Tuesday evening.www.ccfc.co.uk
Ironic that someone started a time to stop taking the knee thread yesterday too
In fairness I think he is trying to draw parallels rather than trivialize anything. Great club have acted swiftly and an investigation needs to follow. If that shows criminality has occurred it has to be a long ban and referral to the police. I would not favour it being an automatic lifetime ban as long as the individual engaged with education interventions that could make him a better human and more useful member of society.I resent the fact that I’m going to follow your analogy involving reality tv given that this is a really serious subject. In fact I’m shocked you would trivialise it.
Anyway, you today told someone to not watch molly mae. Is that not the same as me telling someone to not take the knee as per your very comparison?
Don’t know why you have to be condescending either
I resent the fact that I’m going to follow your analogy involving reality tv given that this is a really serious subject. In fact I’m shocked you would trivialise it.
Anyway, you today told someone to not watch molly mae. Is that not the same as me telling someone to not take the knee as per your very comparison?
Don’t know why you have to be condescending either
I don’t wear or buy a poppy because the British Legion don’t need my money what with having 70 million in the bank already & leaving 6,000 war veterans homeless
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Must try harder
That would certainly constitute a bannable offence yesWhy are you playing defence lawyer?
Do you expect him to have a banner showing racist abuse, is that the solid evidence you need?
If you acknowledge, which I think you do, that it raises awareness and that this is important, what would you do instead?Several teams are no longer taking the Knee, that doesn't make them racist, I believe it's pointless.
All off you getting your nickers in a twist are you still clapping the NHS every Thursday night.
The point has been made.
It raises awareness up to a point, but eventually becomes ineffective.
Indeed. Great that people are concerned that Taking the Knee doesn't have enough impact on anti-racism messages.what would you do instead?
Several teams are no longer taking the Knee, that doesn't make them racist, I believe it's pointless.
All off you getting your nickers in a twist are you still clapping the NHS every Thursday night.
The point has been made.
It raises awareness up to a point, but eventually becomes ineffective.
Zaha gave a statement to the press saying he thinks it's degrading. Racist?
As on every other thread, disagreeing with the "gesture" (not the meaning behind it) doesn't make you racist. However, for about 3 seconds before the game when it happens I am sure people can contain themselves to just deal with it rather than lose their head.
Nobody has said if you don't get involved you're a racist (well I don't think so anyway...), but I'd say actively booing and attempting to discourage others from doing so probably is.
As you say, if people don't agree with it they should just keep quiet for a few seconds and respect those who wish to participate
Zaha gave a statement to the press saying he thinks it's degrading. Racist?
As on every other thread, disagreeing with the "gesture" (not the meaning behind it) doesn't make you racist. However, for about 3 seconds before the game when it happens I am sure people can contain themselves to just deal with it rather than lose their head.
Heres Zahas statement:
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He’s very clear that it’s his personal decision and he’s not saying others should stop.
Just don't boo it, that's all anyone needs to do. If it's ineffective, ignore the 5 seconds it takes to get through it
Several teams are no longer taking the Knee, that doesn't make them racist, I believe it's pointless.
All off you getting your nickers in a twist are you still clapping the NHS every Thursday night.
The point has been made.
It raises awareness up to a point, but eventually becomes ineffective.
When did Alderman Callow go private? Missed that.
Where do I send my crumpled poppy to from November to get a full refund. It’s lost the leaf you get on the posher ones and I no longer have a pin.I don’t wear or buy a poppy because the British Legion don’t need my money what with having 70 million in the bank already & leaving 6,000 war veterans homeless
He didn’t say that he said:
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Which is about his personal choices again. He explicitly said he’s not telling other people to stop.
Keep going, you will get there.
The point is, thinking the gesture (again, not the meaning) is pointless or negative doesn't instantly make you a racist.
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