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procdoc

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  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #141
Grendel said:
Really? This is not to do with football but financial structure. All ex premier clubs after parachute payments have collapsed have seen an inevitable slide through the trap door.

Explain then why wolves Blackburn and Blackpool are now looking down the abyss.

The statistics are beyond factual disprovement. You can quote you know more about football and other meaningless emotional rhetoric but the facts are there and the time had come.

The notion we are above relegation to this league when so many "big" clubs have experienced this detracts from your claim of knowledge. In simple parlance our time had come. We are in with a chance if recovery, administration and colossal points reduction will end all hope.
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Not every club has been relegated. Each club is different. The likes of Blackburn and Wolves have owners even more inept than ours. West Brom got relegated from the prem a couple of times and went back up and are now a comfortable mid-table team. Middlesborough, Burnley, Watford, Hull, Derby, Bolton have all been prem teams in the past decade or so yet a majority of them are pushing automatic promotion or at least the play-offs. There's some undeniable statistics for you.
 
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procdoc

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  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #142
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Bullying tactics? Bitch please. The most abusive posters on here are in the ACL camp (you know who you are) but you, and others certainly turn a blind eye to that! I can smell hypocrisy, not for first time, nor will it be the last time!

Seen no evidence to suggests against that. You're entitled to your opinion, doesn't mean it isn't; irrational/stupid/idiotic/wrong. It is an opinion of a small select idiots that the holocaust was a 'Zionist conspiracy', there're entitled to their (wrong and sickening) opinion (well in some places) doesn't mean it is correct nor valid nor should be taken seriously.
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what an absurd response. How can anyone debate with people like you? At least Grendel and Torch respond with something constructive. SISU have mis-managed our club, what is wrong/stupid with that opinion? If you think they've done a spiffing job then good for you, doesn't mean I have to agree
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #143
Sick Boy said:
ahhh...his mythical 3 game spell at the club.
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It must be relegation was statistically inevitable.
So it was a 45 minute shit performance sacking = 5 defeats= 5 managers = just out side the play offs with a squad that should be in the top two.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #144
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
There's hypocrisy all over the ACL camp's argument. I would guarantee if it were not SISU negotiating, the owners would not have faced such opposition, even if they went with the renegade tactics SISU did, and ultimately, people like PWKH would be heard by deaf ears. It stinks of hypocrisy.

I, and others, get called 'pro-SISU', it simply isn't the case, I'm pro-CCFC as I would completely support the club in this struggle whoever was our owners, whether it be Hoffman, the SBT, anyone, whereas ACL are supported (well the majority) by blinded by their hatred of SISU, their ability to make a clear judgement on this issue. I'm speaking generally here, so please, whoever replies, don't be pedantic.

I knew PWKH was the user's initials! What about the 'W' though? Such a posh name to.
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If ever it was pot and kettle time you've stepped up to it
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #145
cloughie said:
If ever it was pot and kettle time you've stepped up to it
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Explain yourself, although I'm not holding my breathe.

The majority of the ACL camp our blinded by their hate for SISU, hence anyone who speaks against ACL are branded 'pro-SISU'.
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #146
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Explain yourself, although I'm not holding my breathe.

The majority of the ACL camp our blinded by their hate for SISU, hence anyone who speaks against ACL are branded 'pro-SISU'.
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I take it you agreed with Delieu sitting in the dug out then. Maybe you was happy to go along with the 'text the subs' idea. Perhaps you agreed that Sky Blue Sam was too fat to be our mascot. Or maybe your so blinded by your hatred towards ACL that you fail to see any of the complete mis-management by our owners
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #147
Godiva said:
But here's a question that was put to PWKH a few weeks ago:





And he answered:





So did the club ask for a rent reduction prior to the rent strike, or did they just stop paying without a warning?
Or did PWKH say indirectly that there may have been an approach by the club, but ACL refused to enter into a discussion about rent reduction?
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If so... The plot thickens!
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #148
procdoc said:
I take it you agreed with Delieu sitting in the dug out then. Maybe you was happy to go along with the 'text the subs' idea. Perhaps you agreed that Sky Blue Sam was too fat to be our mascot. Or maybe your so blinded by your hatred towards ACL that you fail to see any of the complete mis-management by our owners
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Thorn should've said Fuck off to Delieu, that is his fault, if I were the manager, I wouldn't allow it! The text for subs idea was an idea, and that is it. Mascot being too fat? What's that got to with anything.

All of what you have listed is irrelevant really, has nothing to do with the club's demise, you could've used such better examples. Let down really.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #149
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Explain yourself, although I'm not holding my breathe.

The majority of the ACL camp our blinded by their hate for SISU, hence anyone who speaks against ACL are branded 'pro-SISU'.
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Well, at least we should be grateful that anyone who speaks out against SISU isn't branded "pro-ACL".

Oh, hang on a minute.........
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #150
procdoc said:
what an absurd response. How can anyone debate with people like you? At least Grendel and Torch respond with something constructive. SISU have mis-managed our club, what is wrong/stupid with that opinion? If you think they've done a spiffing job then good for you, doesn't mean I have to agree
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Awwww princess.

I've, on many occasions criticised SISU, e.g. way they went about rent (although could've been forced) and their mismanagement of the club, yet I'm Fisher (been accused before, not by you) and pro-SISU. :facepalm:
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #151
Sick Boy said:
ahhh...his mythical 3 game spell at the club.
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Was it a myth?

Must have had too much wine tonight, I could have sworn it really happened
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #152
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Thorn should've said Fuck off to Delieu, that is his fault, if I were the manager, I wouldn't allow it! The text for subs idea was an idea, and that is it. Mascot being too fat? What's that got to with anything.

All of what you have listed is irrelevant really, has nothing to do with the club's demise, you could've used such better examples. Let down really.
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do you see any other clubs boards coming out with such ridiculous ideas? They are examples of what SISU have allowed to happen to us or can't you see that? You clearly are that focussed on hating ACL you are willing to call making us a laughing stock irrelevant when it clearly is not
 
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procdoc

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  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #153
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Awwww princess.

I've, on many occasions criticised SISU, e.g. way they went about rent (although could've been forced) and their mismanagement of the club, yet I'm Fisher (been accused before, not by you) and pro-SISU. :facepalm:
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you make yourself look really stupid by calling me a bitch and princess. How can anyone take you seriously
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #154
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
Well, at least we should be grateful that anyone who speaks out against SISU isn't branded "pro-ACL".

Oh, hang on a minute.........
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They are pro-ACL though aren't they, because it's CCFC v ACL, I don't give a shit about SISU, I care about CCFC, whoever owns them.

Do you propose whatever they be called? Pro-CCFC? That'd be untrue, given they supported the first reduction, don't believe we should have revenues, some have said thy want them to take us to the cleaners, support them putting us into admin, blindly dismissing the risks, and ignore their threats of liquidation! :hinting about:
 
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procdoc

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  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #155
so we should just ignore SISU's threats of liquidation? can't have one and not the other
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #156
procdoc said:
you make yourself look really stupid by calling me a bitch and princess. How can anyone take you seriously
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Bro, they're sayings amongst today's 'ill-disciplined' (according to Gove) youths.

Still haven't n answered the actual points of my posts, good tactics.
 

cloughie

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #157
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Explain yourself, although I'm not holding my breathe.

The majority of the ACL camp our blinded by their hate for SISU, hence anyone who speaks against ACL are branded 'pro-SISU'.
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you obviously cannot remember your earliest comments when first posting about the council when you joined here, or see the irony of your statement about blind hatred of sisu.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #158
procdoc said:
so we should just ignore SISU's threats of liquidation? can't have one and not the other
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No, I took both threats equally and I'm genuinely concerned for the future of the club. But you and others ignored ACL's threats.

Both are probably 'idle threats' but, I get uneasy when I see stuff like that. Difference is though, SISU threatened it, ACL, well PWKH, said they started the process of liquidation, I think the latter is more serious.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #159
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
They are pro-ACL though aren't they, because it's CCFC v ACL, I don't give a shit about SISU, I care about CCFC, whoever owns them.

Do you propose whatever they be called? Pro-CCFC? That'd be untrue, given they supported the first reduction, don't believe we should have revenues, some have said thy want them to take us to the cleaners, support them putting us into admin, blindly dismissing the risks, and ignore their threats of liquidation! :hinting about:
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What a lot of unsupported statements!

I'm afraid you're wandering into Grendel territory. Next we know it, the South Sea Bubble will be (mis)quoted.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #160
Well, you and others have ignored ACLs threat of liquidation.

procdoc said:
so we should just ignore SISU's threats of liquidation? can't have one and not the other
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #161
cloughie said:
you obviously cannot remember your earliest comments when first posting about the council when you joined here, or see the irony of your statement about blind hatred of sisu.
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Perhaps I've changed my mind? Or is that not allowed?

I saw the irrationality of it all when I reflected and thought about it all, I even apologised.

Knew that was gong to brought up though
 
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LarryGrayson

Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #162
there are lots of angry people on ere lol people should just get on noone nos anything so why fight it all looks like a massive dick waving contest from ere lol
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #163
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Bro, they're sayings amongst today's 'ill-disciplined' (according to Gove) youths.

Still haven't n answered the actual points of my posts, good tactics.
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I have answered
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #164
torchomatic said:
Well, you and others have ignored ACLs threat of liquidation.
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I have not ignored it. I wouldn't classify myself as pro-ACL. I agree with you, Grendel and everyone else that says the rent was extortionate. I've asked on a few occasions (without getting an answer) why it took so long, nearly five years, before SISU tried to do anything about it? Any sound business would have attempted re-negotiation long ago but they didn't. I don't believe either party has the club at heart for me ACL are the lesser of the two evils
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #165
dongonzalos said:
It must be relegation was statistically inevitable.
So it was a 45 minute shit performance sacking = 5 defeats= 5 managers = just out side the play offs with a squad that should be in the top two.
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It was not inevitable, with a proper manager in charge we would have had a real chance of staying up. His rein as manager was clearly a disaster and was alluded as such when Robins came into the club. It was an utter disgrace that he was kept in charge for so long and that he took a wage for a job he clearly was not able to do.

It is laughable that you claim he was sacked based on a half of football.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #166
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
What a lot of unsupported statements!

I'm afraid you're wandering into Grendel territory. Next we know it, the South Sea Bubble will be (mis)quoted.
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Would you like me to support them?


SkyBlue_Taylor said:
They are pro-ACL though aren't they, because it's CCFC v ACL, I don't give a shit about SISU, I care about CCFC, whoever owns them.

Do you propose whatever they be called? Pro-CCFC? That'd be untrue, given they supported the first reduction, look at the threads and posts after we rejected both rent reduction offersdon't believe we should have revenues NLHWC and Jan have said we should buy revenues and shouldn't get them for free, some have said thy want them to take us to the cleaners CJ, support them putting us into admin, http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/28273-would-you-rather?p=397565#post397565 81 voted for admin (I did by accident, I stated in a post) look blindly dismissing the risks, (many assume mystical investors will come to our aid (Flying Fooker especially seems excited for this) and ignore their threats of liquidation! Do I need to explain this one :hinting about:
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Good enough?
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #167
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Would you like me to support them?

Good enough?
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No.

I think the phrase I' looking for is "selective quoting".
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #168
procdoc said:
do you see any other clubs boards coming out with such ridiculous ideas? They are examples of what SISU have allowed to happen to us or can't you see that? You clearly are that focussed on hating ACL you are willing to call making us a laughing stock irrelevant when it clearly is not
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Brody was on board of the FL wasn't he? It was a FL 'idea' wasn't it.

Donny sacked their mascot for doing stripping down for charity calendar, they received nationwide criticism.
 
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procdoc

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #169
SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Brody was on board of the FL wasn't he? It was a FL 'idea' wasn't it.

Donny sacked their mascot for doing stripping down for charity calendar, they received nationwide criticism.
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No it wasn't an FL idea, it was a brain dead Brody idea.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #170
DazzleTommyDazzle said:
No.

I think the phrase I' looking for is "selective quoting".
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What's wrong with my supportive evidence, it's all true, or, do you not like that I've come out and supported myself.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #171
Sick Boy said:
It was not inevitable, with a proper manager in charge we would have had a real chance of staying up. His rein as manager was clearly a disaster and was alluded as such when Robins came into the club. It was an utter disgrace that he was kept in charge for so long and that he took a wage for a job he clearly was not able to do.

It is laughable that you claim he was sacked based on a half of football.
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Just quoting Grendel
 
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georgehudson

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #172
PWKH has answered as much, as honestly, & as open as permits,
ACL have kept schtum,
CCC likewise,
sisu have allowed TF to trot out propaganda,
the SBT have requested mediation,
who is going to judge all of this ?
& then we have the FA, who allowed 'fester' to get away with heaven knows what previously,
plus countless other clubs who have chosen to manipulate,
about time we heard from ice maiden JS
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #173
Our new wannabe owners have billions apparently, love football and will do whatever it takes to bring good times here...... well thats what i have been told tonight
 

Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #174
rupert_bear said:
Our new wannabe owners have billions apparently, love football and will do whatever it takes to bring good times here...... well thats what i have been told tonight
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Stop getting our hopes up! If anything, he'll be a fat Arab pretending to have billions yet have feck all!

I sincerely hope you're right.
 
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Bluegloucester

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  • Mar 18, 2013
  • #175
rupert_bear said:
Our new wannabe owners have billions apparently, love football and will do whatever it takes to bring good times here...... well thats what i have been told tonight
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You're gonna have to expand on this, too intriguing.
 
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