Match Thread Queens Park Rangers - Coventry City Match Thread - Saturday 31st Jan (7 Viewers)

[Otis]

Ipswich will spank Preston at home, the form they’re in and I think Boro will be too much at home to Norwich. Best we can hope for there is a draw.

Think both will win but if not, Boro draw and Ipswich win.

Not sure on the Boro Norwich game now. I would have said Boro would win that, but I was impressed with Norwich last night and can see them possibly getting something out of that game

I think Preston are going to have to go Extra Preston to get anything against Ipswich.

 

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[Jamesimus]

Wilson
Rushworth
Back 8 of - MVE KKH Thomas Wolfie Lati Kitching Bidwell Dasilva
Wright

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Rushworth
MVE-Thomas-Kitching-JDS
Grimes-Torp/Eccles
Esse-Rudi/Eccles-EMC
Wright

Drop the 2nd CM deeper to close the gaps in the midfield. Having a midfield at 10 rather than BTA will also add support in there.

If we don't go mad with the tactics we should have far more than enough,

Looking forward to this and will be on a train from cove sometime between 9am and 10am on Saturday.

So more of the same then!

 

[David O'Day]

So more of the same then!

Clearly not as I clearly explained in the post.

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Clearly not as I clearly explained in the post.

Same players.

 

[Tommo1993]

Must win, of course.

Probably wouldn’t complain if he set us up to not lose. Only problem is I think we’re still pretty capable of losing doing that.

 

[David O'Day]

Same players.

Different fucking positions on the pitch, I explain this.

So no it's not more of the same,

 

[alexccfc99]

I said before the game that I was more confident for this than I was for last night and I will stick with that, I fancy us to at least not lose this one

If we play 2 games back to back, away from home like we are doing here I do have in my mind we might well lose one of them - So a win here would really take the sting out of last night and tee up a winnable home game v Oxford and the crunch game with Boro nicely

Can't see PNE doing us a good turn at Portman Rd, but Norwich are a potential banana skin for Boro - Fingers crossed

 

[Evo1883]

Im not sure what to expect , we are incredibly inconsistent performance wise in parts of matches we can be good and in parts woeful

Lets be real we simply do not look like a table topping side and havent done for over a month

Our football is scrappy and we lack fluidity , we are defensively all at sea with a midfield offering next to nothing in matches
We are subbing like for like constantly rather than reacting to matches , we also rarely ever switch it up to try and repell overwhelming pressure


QPR 1 - 3 Coventry

 

[alexccfc99]

The pessimist in me has reared it's head and I have started placing £20 a week on Boro and Ipswich to beat whoever they are playing and then Double Chance on whoever is playing us... Winnings to be put towards next seasons season ticket

 

[torchomatic]

Would be funny if they weren't grown men.

What are they like when something serious actually happens?

 

[Domo]

i dont even know where to start - just want a win
yday if wrights wasnt cleared of the line, and emc/esse didnt hit the bar it would have been a favourable outcome.
issue is were playing poorly and getting found out, the counter attacks last night we could have been 5-0 down easy.

 

[David O'Day]

Same players.

Let me break this down for you.

Last night we set up like this in possession

Rushworth
Thomas-Kitching-Grimes
No one in a CDM position
MVE-Esse-Torp-EMC-JDS
BTA-Wright

The issues with this are as follows:

The distance between the 3 players who are at the back and rest of the team means that in our build up stage it is easy for the opposition to make us go long which they were set up to deal with.

The same distance/Gap between The back 3 positioned players and the rest of the team also then means that when the opposition turn the ball over they have a free run towards the 3 players we have back which allows them to overrun us in midfield as we struggle to get back to order defensive shape which is 4-4-2.

What we can do with the "same players" is set up more like this in possession:

Rushworth
Thomas-Kitching-Grimes
Torp
Rudi/Eccles
MVE-Esse-EMC-JDS
Wright

This is dropping Torp back from the basically a 2nd no.10 role he was in yesterday to a more of a 6 or CDM role and having the player at 10 operate slightly deeper than BTA was operating in last night.

This helps fill the gap in our midfield and can help to slow teams down in transition and allow us to actually get into our defensive shape

It also helps us build attacks better as having the extra 2 players deeper will give us more short passing options and allows us to attempt to play through teams rather than as what happened last night where Grimes or a CB would look up and there would be Norwich players between them and the rest of the team forcing them to play it longer.

 

[SkyblueTexan]

Must win. That’s all there’s to it.

 

[Grendel]

Must win. That’s all there’s to it.

Why? What if we din't and then win the next 2 home games?

 

[fernandopartridge]

We're still creating chances so hopefully a few tactical tweaks will be enough to see us win here.

 

[Skyblueabo1111]

Different fucking positions on the pitch, I explain this.

So no it's not more of the same,

It'll be the the same shite, with

Let me break this down for you.

Last night we set up like this in possession

Rushworth
Thomas-Kitching-Grimes
No one in a CDM position
MVE-Esse-Torp-EMC-JDS
BTA-Wright

The issues with this are as follows:

The distance between the 3 players who are at the back and rest of the team means that in our build up stage it is easy for the opposition to make us go long which they were set up to deal with.

The same distance/Gap between The back 3 positioned players and the rest of the team also then means that when the opposition turn the ball over they have a free run towards the 3 players we have back which allows them to overrun us in midfield as we struggle to get back to order defensive shape which is 4-4-2.

What we can do with the "same players" is set up more like this in possession:

Rushworth
Thomas-Kitching-Grimes
Torp
Rudi/Eccles
MVE-Esse-EMC-JDS
Wright

This is dropping Torp back from the basically a 2nd no.10 role he was in yesterday to a more of a 6 or CDM role and having the player at 10 operate slightly deeper than BTA was operating in last night.

This helps fill the gap in our midfield and can help to slow teams down in transition and allow us to actually get into our defensive shape

It also helps us build attacks better as having the extra 2 players deeper will give us more short passing options and allows us to attempt to play through teams rather than as what happened last night where Grimes or a CB would look up and there would be Norwich players between them and the rest of the team forcing them to play it longer.

You realise it wasn't just last night? We have been overrun in nearly every game since November. Even the last 2 home games we luckily won. At the moment, it is like watching the young kids, in their first 11 side game. No idea about positioning, where they should be playing. It is embarrassing.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Optimistic about this one, think we might scrape a draw.

Taken the lead in 4 of our last 5 away games and won 0 of them. Seriously not good enough.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I said before the game that I was more confident for this than I was for last night and I will stick with that, I fancy us to at least not lose this one

If we play 2 games back to back, away from home like we are doing here I do have in my mind we might well lose one of them - So a win here would really take the sting out of last night and tee up a winnable home game v Oxford and the crunch game with Boro nicely

Can't see PNE doing us a good turn at Portman Rd, but Norwich are a potential banana skin for Boro - Fingers crossed

I'd be very surprised based on last night's game if Norwich get anything at Middlesbrough.

 

[Domo]

We're still creating chances so hopefully a few tactical tweaks will be enough to see us win here.

this is it - still had 16 shots last night and our xG was higher than norwich

 

[CCFCBat]

Rushworth
MVE Wolf Thomas JDS
Grimes, Eccles
Tats Esse EMC
Wright

 

[Evo1883]

I'd be very surprised based on last night's game if Norwich get anything at Middlesbrough.

I agree

 

[alexccfc99]

I'd be very surprised based on last night's game if Norwich get anything at Middlesbrough.

I thought they were an okay side, better than the the table would have you believe and only 2pts off Boro in the form table since their manager got the gig

It is not a gimme that Boro win

 

[David O'Day]

It'll be the the same shite, with

You realise it wasn't just last night? We have been overrun in nearly every game since November. Even the last 2 home games we luckily won. At the moment, it is like watching the young kids, in their first 11 side game. No idea about positioning, where they should be playing. It is embarrassing.

Yes because we have been doing the same thing for a while, did you even read what I said?

 

[SeshMouseSkyBlue]

442

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Would be funny if they weren't grown men.

What are they like when something serious actually happens?

I agree that some of the reactions have been excessive, but for some people the football really is the only outlet and it means it has a greater effect. We saw that after the playoff defeats in recent seasons, and what it did to some of our supporters in their outside lives. As much as the meltdowns can be a strange cross of entertainment and raised eyebrows, I think we can be a bit more empathetic. Me included.

I know it sounds like I am getting on my high horse a bit, but that wasn't my intention. The world is a fucked up place and supporting this club can sometimes have a big swing on the emotions. Of course when it is good then it really is good too. I hope we can go up for that reason, because as a fan base I genuinely think we deserve it.

 

[David O'Day]

442

Basically played that last night, but nice to see Mike Bassett has a log in

 

[SkyblueTexan]

Why? What if we din't and then win the next 2 home games?

What if we lost and continued losing after that?

 

[Grendel]

What if we lost and continued losing after that?

That’s nothing to do with QPR being a must win

 

[JSL]

Thomas needs dropping after last nights performance. He looked half arsed

 

[Boicey]

this is it - still had 16 shots last night and our xG was higher than norwich

Given we have a team full of strikers and were chasing to equalise for best part of 30 minutes at the end you'd be surprised otherwise.

 

[JohnWH]

Start our best 13 players, they'll be fine.

6-3 win.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Given we have a team full of strikers and were chasing to equalise for best part of 30 minutes at the end you'd be surprised otherwise.

Our xG in the 23 minutes + injury time after their goal was about 0.65 from a total of 1.90, not really a disproportionate share.

 

[clint van damme]

Would be funny if they weren't grown men.

What are they like when something serious actually happens?

Not sure not being confident of an away win after not winning away for 2 months is being dramatic.

The person you're replying to is also one of the biggest bedwetters of the Robins era so he's changed his tune.

I'm concerned that if we don't change it away we're going to blow this, I can't see how we can turn a corner doing the same thing every other week.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

The pessimist in me has reared it's head and I have started placing £20 a week on Boro and Ipswich to beat whoever they are playing and then Double Chance on whoever is playing us... Winnings to be put towards next seasons season ticket

I really can't back against City.
I saw the odds last night at half time
CITY 1/2 Norwich 7/1.

Normally I can shake a loss off in 24hours this season its at least 48.