shepardo01
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3ptsQuick question. What do you think we need more today - a performance or 3 points? (If we can’t have both)
He’s not really top half championship level though, he can put in a decent shift now and again but consistently game after game for 90 mins I’m not sure how good he is at this level (cue Kelly scoring an absolute worldie today).He has been one of our best players. I dread to think what the results would have been without him. Think people are looking in the wrong place for scapegoats.
Seeing as league position is decided by points I’ll go with thatQuick question. What do you think we need more today - a performance or 3 points? (If we can’t have both)
I don't really agree. How us one of our best performers the problem.Not saying he’s to blame at all but it does highlight just how bad recruitment has been over the summer.
Who?I won't be happy until we throw Kitching up front to show some intent
Kelly is a decent squad player for emergencies but shouldn't be considered a first team player, so can't agree that we were fine for CM if we're actually looking for more than lower midtable.I don't really agree. How us one of our best performers the problem.
The biggest weakness in our recruitment (let's delay judgement on Simms and Wright for now) was the failure to recruit to the AM position. We were fine for central midfield as Kelly has proved. Sheaf, Eccles and Kelly are all fine. We also added Ayari who so far looks well out of his depth.
But we added no AM in the summer. We were already short in this oosition and had to play Hamer out of position there at the end if last season. We went into the season with only Palmer who we know is ridiculously injury prone. As a result we have had to play Ayari out of position and probably before he is ready.
The root of our lack of creativity isn't really the central midfield who are doing ok, it's the lack of delivery from the AM. Hopefully Allen can get up to speed and fill in and eventually O'Hare can get back to his old level. However, I think people already have totally unreal expectations about O'Hare.
Love itI've put a tenner on Ayari's cock to be first scorer.
You can laugh, but it’s still got more chance of coming in than Simms to score at anytime!
Completely agree, I just can’t believe that some people are happy with the idea of Kelly and Eccles in CM and are fine with the lack of recruitment in that position. Sheaf is alright, and I don’t mean that lightly, but even he isn’t spectacular, he’s solid and that’s good but I think if that’s our absolute best player in midfield then it’s a pretty poor outlook. As the last few weeks have proved we don’t just need one or two good players, we need a decent selection so when injuries or suspensions occur we can adjust accordingly. Atm it’s just hope, pray and bumble our way through to the next week, simply not good enough if we’re aiming for top 6 consistently.Kelly is a decent squad player for emergencies but shouldn't be considered a first team player, so can't agree that we were fine for CM if we're actually looking for more than lower midtable.
Yea, tbf he had a decent first half against Huddersfield, (he had no service second half) hopefully the effort he had that resulted in Ayari's World class finish will give his confidence a boost.Love itAlthough I do think Simms is slowly starting to work out where the door is and I think he’ll start knocking on it soon enough
I'm convinced some people are saying it because they think it makes them sound like some football intellectual because they can see something that the masses can't.Completely agree, I just can’t believe that some people are happy with the idea of Kelly and Eccles in CM and are fine with the lack of recruitment that position. Sheaf is alright, and I don’t mean that lightly, but even he isn’t spectacular, he’s solid and that’s good but I think if that’s our absolute best player in midfield then it’s a pretty poor outlook. As the last few weeks have proved we don’t just need one or two good players, we need a decent selection so when injuries or suspensions occur we can adjust accordingly. Atm it’s just hope, pray and bumble our week through to the next week, simple not good enough if we’re aiming for top 6 consistently.
Couldn’t agree more, I’d love to see Simms score and then Wright come on and score (big ask I know) as it’ll give us and the team so much more confidence. Once/if they’ve proved they’re good enough then hopefully Wright and Simms can finally start a game together, would love to see that, or a return to the box, just something different and interesting would be nice.Yea, tbf he had a decent first half against Huddersfield, (he had no service second half) hopefully the effort he had that resulted in Ayari's World class finish will give his confidence a boost.
I've given him some stick for his piss poor performances so far, but I'd love to see what he can do once he gets his form and fitness right, and a goal today would do him the world of good.
We desperately need one of the two new strikers to start contributing, otherwise it's going to be a long slog till January's transfer window.
Great point tbf, to think it’s good to play a slow 33 year old that lacks vision and agility in a real key role like CM and in a formation that doesn’t suit our attackers just seems bizarre to me. I realise he’s looked alright on occasions but I really question his consistency game after game over 90 mins.I'm convinced some people are saying it because they think it makes them sound like some football intellectual because they can see something that the masses can't.
Kelly playing regularly for us is going backwards 3 or 4 years in that position
You have to wonder, how many other teams going for promotion would be happy with him in their starting 11.I'm convinced some people are saying it because they think it makes them sound like some football intellectual because they can see something that the masses can't.
Kelly playing regularly for us is going backwards 3 or 4 years in that position
Exactly, he wouldn’t even make the bench in most top 6 teams. I feel bad disrespecting him because he’s been brilliant for the team over the years but, just like Vik/Gus, we have to move on from thinking Kelly is a saviour.You have to wonder, how many other teams going for promotion would be happy with him in their starting 11.
Like we finished 5th last year with him in the team...You have to wonder, how many other teams going for promotion would be happy with him in their starting 11.
What really makes your point look rediculous is the fact that Kelly got m.o.m as recently as last Monday night.Great point tbf, to think it’s good to play a slow 33 year old that lacks vision and agility in a real key role like CM and in a formation that doesn’t suit our attackers just seems bizarre to me. I realise he’s looked alright on occasions but I really question his consistency game after game over 90 mins.
(I just know he’s gonna score now to make this post look ridiculous later on)
In Ibiza, its mental, fucking madness. Anyone lend me a tenner?
Personally I don't buy in to the idea that Robins just decided not to replace Hamer. Any number of things could have happened but we do know that as late as deadline day Robins was still talking about getting someone in. Maybe our targets went elsewhere, maybe clubs thought we had a bit to spend and hiked the prices up, or some other reasonI just can’t believe that some people are happy with the idea of Kelly and Eccles in CM and are fine with the lack of recruitment in that position.
He’s not really top half championship level though, he can put in a decent shift now and again but consistently game after game for 90 mins I’m not sure how good he is at this level (cue Kelly scoring an absolute worldie today).
I agree our results would have been worse without him but that’s because we’ve literally got no other experienced midfielder to play in that position, we’re literally down to our bare bones in midfield atm. I don’t necessarily think he’s making our team better, I think he’s filling a space and just about holding a very weak midfield together.
Yeah, because playing a few games towards the end of the season is really the same as him now being one of our main CMs this season.Like we finished 5th last year with him in the team...
Yeah first choice midfield wasYeah, because playing a few games towards the end of the season is really the same as him now being one of our main CMs this season.
Yeah, because playing a few games towards the end of the season is really the same as him now being one of our main CMs this season.
Don't worry, if plan A doesn't work, we can always bring Wright on and try plan APersisting again with a systen thay diesnt wirk with the players we have available
Getting fucked off with this now
It's all a bit weird.Playing a centre back at Wingback instead of a player you signed to play there
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