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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,171
Grendel said:
Derby went into administration which is a clear breach — you honestly think a club with nearly £400 million losses and no whiff of administration is a problem but if it lost £315 million it’s solvent?

Have Derby been liquidated? Must have missed that.
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You complained that a great historic club like Derby was being treated unfairly-but you want to keep a system in place that basically gives clubs 3 choices:

Find a tycoon who's happy to write off what he puts in
Gamble
Spend within your means and hope for the best
 

Grendel

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,172
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You complained that a great historic club like Derby was being treated unfairly-but you want to keep a system in place that basically gives clubs 3 choices:

Find a tycoon who's happy to write off what he puts in
Gamble
Spend within your means and hope for the best
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Er no I didn’t - if a club goes into administration it’s a clear breach and a points penalty can be applied.

FFP rules are subject to accounting and interpretation and are bollocks. There is far less chance of Stoke City going into admin say than Luton. Far less. So what’s the point you are making?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,173
Grendel said:
Er no I didn’t - if a club goes into administration it’s a clear breach and a points penalty can be applied.

FFP rules are subject to accounting and interpretation and are bollocks. There is far less chance of Stoke City going into admin say than Luton. Far less. So what’s the point you are making?
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That something needs done to fix English football's problem with the 3 way choice that most clubs in the top 3 tiers face.
 

Grendel

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,174
Brighton Sky Blue said:
That something needs done to fix English football's problem with the 3 way choice that most clubs in the top 3 tiers face.
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don’t agree
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,175
Grendel said:
don’t agree
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Yeah it’s going just swimmingly how it is
 

Grendel

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,176
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Yeah it’s going just swimmingly how it is
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Well yes I’d say it’s no worse than other sectors
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,177
Grendel said:
Well yes I’d say it’s no worse than other sectors
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The system is a house of cards
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,178
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You complained that a great historic club like Derby was being treated unfairly-but you want to keep a system in place that basically gives clubs 3 choices:

Find a tycoon who's happy to write off what he puts in
Gamble
Spend within your means and hope for the best
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Hasn't it always been thus?

And that includes us, we'd still be Southern league without our very own tycoon.

The issue is more the change from club to business. If somebody wants to pump a mass of cash in they're welcome, they just shouldn't be able to ask for it back!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,179
Deleted member 5849 said:
Hasn't it always been thus?

And that includes us, we'd still be Southern league without our very own tycoon.

The issue is more the change from club to business. If somebody wants to pump a mass of cash in they're welcome, they just shouldn't be able to ask for it back!
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I think there’s a clear difference between the pre and post Abramovich eras. As Wenger said, it was much easier for him to do what he did when there weren’t any other mega rich owners to compete against. Now it’s almost a condition of entry to have one.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,180
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think there’s a clear difference between the pre and post Abramovich eras. As Wenger said, it was much easier for him to do what he did when there weren’t any other mega rich owners to compete against. Now it’s almost a condition of entry to have one.
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But there isn't in terms of clubs being bumped up a level, or not.

Man Utd, Liverpool, Preston, Arsenal - just about all of them bankrolled by somebody to reach the top.

It's a lot easier for Wenger to do his job when he was bankrolled by the board he had (and the Hill-Woods got Glossop up first before abandoning them to oblivion, let's not forget) then it was if he'd had Dodgy Dave the turntable slave as his chairman!
 
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Grendel

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,181
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think there’s a clear difference between the pre and post Abramovich eras. As Wenger said, it was much easier for him to do what he did when there weren’t any other mega rich owners to compete against. Now it’s almost a condition of entry to have one.
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What has that got to do with breaking FFP rules
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 20, 2022
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Ultimately, the problem is over-inflation and lack of control over how people can give their clubs money, and who is allowed to give their clubs money. Ultimately a football club is not really a business in the traditional sense, and ultimately every football club really needs a benefactor.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,183
Wenger was a hypocrite he was more worried about building grounds than teams by the end and how did he manage with an owner who was down to his last 10 billion dollars, the difference between Roman and Kronke was that one was prepared to throw cash at his team an the other was happy running a tight shop and taking money out for his other sports franchises.
 

Tommo1993

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  • May 20, 2022
  • #2,184
Sod the meaningless games, give them all early leave. Let Man City play Liverpool, Spurs play Arsenal, and Burnley play Leeds. All on neutral grounds. Make it a bit interesting.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #2,185
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The system is a house of cards
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But it isn't primarily because of the annual losses clubs make, the real issue is the distribution of revenue in favour of the top 20 clubs
 
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Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #2,186
fernandopartridge said:
But it isn't primarily because of the annual losses clubs make, the real issue is the distribution of revenue in favour of the top 20 clubs
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Which won’t change and as founder members we were more than happy to be part of
 

Grendel

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  • May 21, 2022
  • #2,187
Tommo1993 said:
Sod the meaningless games, give them all early leave. Let Man City play Liverpool, Spurs play Arsenal, and Burnley play Leeds. All on neutral grounds. Make it a bit interesting.
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The neutral ground would be in the Far East or the US
 

no_loyalty

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,188
Man City 1-0 down. Liverpool drawing 1-1
 

Tommo1993

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,189
This Brentford vs Leeds feels very ‘Coventry v Morecambe’…

Someone gambling on a loss elsewhere?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,190
Gerrard on course to win his first title for Liverpool
 

clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,191
Is anyone else finding this EPL final day fairly underwhelming?
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,192
clint van damme said:
Is anyone else finding this EPL final day fairly underwhelming?
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If it the same as it is now the last ten minutes could be crazy.
 

Tommo1993

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,193
Another goal for Maddison. Get away from Leicester ffs. He’s wasted there.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,194
Looking likely that it's Burnley next season, much rather Leeds
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,195
Be disappointing if Burnley come down after Everton and Leeds flirting with it
 
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Tommo1993

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,196
This is more like it. Do more goals
 

clint van damme

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,197
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Be disappointing if Burnley come down after Everton and Leeds flirting with it
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Yeah, 2 potentially decent aways days and instead we get a fairly grim one.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,198
Kind of a exciting final day, I am one of the few that prefer Liverpool over Man City
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,199
Wilson scores again and relegates Burnley
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,200
Hello Burnley welcome back to where you should be.
 

Tommo1993

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,201
Super Callum Wilson cares about my ground checklist.

Come on down, Burnley
 
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The CableGuy

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,202
Villa defending very well and posing a constant threat up front.
 

Tommo1993

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,203
The only annoying thing is I originally put Wilson in my FPL. Then changed it to Toney at the last second, thinking of how shit Leeds are.

Stupid boy.
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,204
fernandopartridge said:
Gerrard on course to win his first title for Liverpool
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Well he's certainly playing his part - unbelievably, so far Liverpool not accepting the gift.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • May 22, 2022
  • #2,205
2-0 Villa
 
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