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SBAndy

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,661
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This was always going to happen with Russel Martin insisting on AAATB football with a hopelessly outmatched squad. Should be sacked after this.
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Should be catapulted at the sun to be honest.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,662
That is a pretty outrageous finish from Maddison
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,663
SBAndy said:
Should be catapulted at the sun to be honest.
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He said he’d be sacked before he changed his style. Makes the chairman’s job even simpler
 
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skybluecam

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,664
Martin should be sacked at half time ffs this is hilarious
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,665
skybluecam said:
Martin should be sacked at half time ffs this is hilarious
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Went down to prep his HT team talk so missed the 5th goal. Clown
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,666
Ffs. Tuning in now so expect no more goals.
 
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Cov98

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,667
Passing around in your own half slowly and all pedestrian when 5-0 down is peak Russel Martin ball
 
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ccfc922

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,668
Proper blagged the play offs didn't they, Leeds must be fuming.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,669
Cov98 said:
Passing around in your own half slowly and all pedestrian when 5-0 down is peak Russel Martin ball
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Some chants for his sacking just now.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,670
He’s gone.
 

no_loyalty

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,671
Ian1779 said:
He’s gone.
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Inevitable really, 9 points adrift.

Still on course to break Derby’s lowest points record.
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,672
skybluecam said:
Martin should be sacked at half time ffs this is hilarious
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Said the same thing in the pub earlier . Walking off to the dressing rooms like a prima Donna and then conceding again??
Wtf
 
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Perennial Lurker

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  • Dec 15, 2024
  • #9,673
HadjiChippo said:
No Rashford or Garnacho in match day squad. Amorim marking his territory early.
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I've said for a few months now to my Manure supporting friends that they both play for themselves . I remember a stat from last season where they had about 10-12 attempts on goal yet Hojland hadn't had a touch in the opposition box .
Amorim looks like the proper manager they've needed since SAF retired
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,674
It’s scary how out of their depth the teams that go up look even with rubbish like Everton up there and then the teams that come down in general are far to good.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 16, 2024
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,676
stupot07 said:
It wouldn't surprise me if he stood down tonight. 8 defeats from 11
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Mental to think this being flown about after 6 PL titles and one bad run. Looking back to ourselves, it can show how easily a solid foundation can be undone. But Man City have a few players in their team that over the hill with Walker and KDB being 2 such players.

Even if Pep survives this run, the aura of invincibility has gone with a resurgent Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal in the frame.

It’s what made Fergie great being able to constantly reinvent the team and beat every ‘upstart’ he came against. This a big test for Pep.
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,677
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Mental to think this being flown about after 6 PL titles and one bad run. Looking back to ourselves, it can show how easily a solid foundation can be undone. But Man City have a few players in their team that over the hill with Walker and KDB being 2 such players.

Even if Pep survives this run, the aura of invincibility has gone with a resurgent Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal in the frame.

It’s what made Fergie great being able to constantly reinvent the team and beat every ‘upstart’ he came against. This a big test for Pep.
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Pep has been to slow in refreshing the team maybe he didn’t as he hadn’t decided his future.
 
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stupot07

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,678
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Mental to think this being flown about after 6 PL titles and one bad run. Looking back to ourselves, it can show how easily a solid foundation can be undone. But Man City have a few players in their team that over the hill with Walker and KDB being 2 such players.

Even if Pep survives this run, the aura of invincibility has gone with a resurgent Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal in the frame.

It’s what made Fergie great being able to constantly reinvent the team and beat every ‘upstart’ he came against. This a big test for Pep.
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Yep, agreed. He just looks like a broken man at the minute, like you said hes relying on 1-2 players who are over the hill. Then brought back 34 year old Gundagan back. He's got a fair few other players around the 30 mark too. He's not been great at succession planning and refreshing the squad

The worry will be that once that aura of invincibility has gone it won't come back, just like it did with Fergie in the end.
 

David O'Day

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,679
stupot07 said:
Yep, agreed. He just looks like a broken man at the minute, like you said hes relying on 1-2 players who are over the hill. Then brought back 34 year old Gundagan back. He's got a fair few other players around the 30 mark too. He's not been great at succession planning and refreshing the squad

The worry will be that once that aura of invincibility has gone it won't come back, just like it did with Fergie in the end.
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His stubbornness and insistence in playing the same aging players has cost them players like Cole Palmer.

Teams have figured him out more now and he doesn't have by far the best team so he is struggling. His only answer is to keep trying the same thing. His team is now so shot of confidence they were at one stage just hoofing the ball forward.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,680
Unpopular opinion but I would have wanted Martin as our manager had he been sacked a month ago.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,681
SBT said:
Unpopular opinion but I would have wanted Martin as our manager had he been sacked a month ago.
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His record is pretty mediocre. Fair play he got Southampton up last season but given the strength of their squad, you'd have expected them to get to the play offs at least anyway. At MK Dons and Swansea he flattered to deceive, with a 37% win record.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,682
fernandopartridge said:
His record is pretty mediocre. Fair play he got Southampton up last season but given the strength of their squad, you'd have expected them to get to the play offs at least anyway. At MK Dons and Swansea he flattered to deceive, with a 37% win record.
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I wouldn’t expect instant success with him (same as I feel about Lampard) and there’s every chance it would go badly wrong (ditto) but if your brief is to find a “Head Coach” who will instil a clear football philosophy in the team, then Martin fits that better than any of the rumoured names we had. The fallout on here would have been spectacular of course.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,683
SBT said:
I wouldn’t expect instant success with him (same as I feel about Lampard) and there’s every chance it would go badly wrong (ditto) but if your brief is to find a “Head Coach” who will instil a clear football philosophy in the team, then Martin fits that better than any of the rumoured names we had. The fallout on here would have been spectacular of course.
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This is why he was sacked from Southampton

refused to shift from his “clear football philosophy” to a more pragmatic style, to be a more attractive appointment for future employers.
I’d rather a manager that puts the team above himself and wants to win
 
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  • Dec 16, 2024
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Our centre backs already have too much of the ball under Martin it would have got worse the players we have don’t suit his style.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,685
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Mental to think this being flown about after 6 PL titles and one bad run. Looking back to ourselves, it can show how easily a solid foundation can be undone. But Man City have a few players in their team that over the hill with Walker and KDB being 2 such players.

Even if Pep survives this run, the aura of invincibility has gone with a resurgent Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal in the frame.

It’s what made Fergie great being able to constantly reinvent the team and beat every ‘upstart’ he came against. This a big test for Pep.
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Fergie’s teams also went through some pretty barren spells in the early 2000s and again when Mourinho arrived. His skill was in constantly reinventing the team, does Guardiola have it?
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,686
Ccfcisparks said:
This is why he was sacked from Southampton

refused to shift from his “clear football philosophy” to a more pragmatic style, to be a more attractive appointment for future employers.
I’d rather a manager that puts the team above himself and wants to win
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Yeah and tbf I’ve said that really we need someone who’s pragmatic at the moment. Hopefully that’s Lampard.

Obviously Martin’s commitment to the bit is a disaster when your players are generally inferior in terms of technical ability to the rest of the division - I would hope that wouldn’t be the case for us in the Championship.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,687
Ccfcisparks said:
This is why he was sacked from Southampton

refused to shift from his “clear football philosophy” to a more pragmatic style, to be a more attractive appointment for future employers.
I’d rather a manager that puts the team above himself and wants to win
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All due respect to Southampton, they don’t really have the squad capable of staying up playing with their ‘clear football philosophy’. Same with Burnley under Kompany and Maresca had he stayed at Leicester (academic ofc). That rebuild could define Pep’s legacy in that GOAT conversation which is why I think he’ll past 2026.

That said, Martin was a manager I’d have been interested in had he been available when Robins had been sacked. If Lampard were to get us promoted I believe he would be pragmatic in the Prem to at least give us a better chance of staying up.

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Fergie’s teams also went through some pretty barren spells in the early 2000s and again when Mourinho arrived. His skill was in constantly reinventing the team, does Guardiola have it?
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Exactly, that’s why Fergie is my GOAT in the Prem. Personally, I do just think Pep and Man City have mistimed their rebuild because they always planned for 2025 - that just looks to one season too late.

Selling Palmer was a huge blunder but then again, FFP incentivises teams to sell academy players as it represents 100% profit.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,688
Mucca Mad Boys said:
FFP incentivises teams to sell academy players as it represents 100% profit.
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Just the worst rule. Make one-club players affordable again!
 
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OffenhamSkyBlue

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,689
Anyone know what the odds are of Robins going to Wolves or Saints? Or does not getting the Hull job mean he is not that highly regarded? Have Millwall appointed yet?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 16, 2024
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OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Anyone know what the odds are of Robins going to Wolves or Saints? Or does not getting the Hull job mean he is not that highly regarded? Have Millwall appointed yet?
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I’d be surprised if Robins was interested in the Hull job and genuinely think he’d be exposed at both Saints and Wolves to be honest.
 
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Cov98

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,691
SBT said:
Unpopular opinion but I would have wanted Martin as our manager had he been sacked a month ago.
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Nah absolutely not for me. He's way too one dimensional and would insist on a style that wouldn't suit this team in the slightest.

Latibeaudiere and Thomas trying to 1-2 their way out of our own box would be a comedy show.

And to add an unpopular opinion of my own, I genuinely find his style of football brain numbingly boring. Having lots of the ball and making loads of passes is great to watch at a high tempo but Martin ball is so slow it's painful in my opinion.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,692
OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Anyone know what the odds are of Robins going to Wolves or Saints? Or does not getting the Hull job mean he is not that highly regarded? Have Millwall appointed yet?
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Millwall, from a random up the match on Saturday!
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,693
How have they ever got to the stage Rashford is on £365k a week?

Manchester United view sidelining Marcus Rashford as key to cultural reboot

Marcus Rashford has been marginalised and put up for sale by Manchester United as part of a cultural reboot deemed necessary to transform the club
www.theguardian.com
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,694
SlowerThanPlatt said:
How have they ever got to the stage Rashford is on £365k a week?

Manchester United view sidelining Marcus Rashford as key to cultural reboot

Marcus Rashford has been marginalised and put up for sale by Manchester United as part of a cultural reboot deemed necessary to transform the club
www.theguardian.com
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Social conscience?
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 16, 2024
  • #9,695
There's going to be a big claim for damages regarding pep and Man city, can see it a mile off!
 
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