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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,926
I’m glad they equalised absolutely boring from Arsenal
 
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skybluecam

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,927
Terry Gibson's perm said:
I’m glad they equalised absolutely boring from Arsenal
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What on earth do you expect with 10 men

That was one of the best displays of defensive football I’ve ever seen.
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,928
skybluecam said:
What on earth do you expect with 10 men

That was one of the best displays of defensive football I’ve ever seen.
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Roy Keane doesn’t agree
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,929
Are we saying Man City wouldn't do that, personally I don't think so!
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,930
wingy said:
Are we saying Man City wouldn't do that, personally I don't think so!
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The luxury of having the best squad of players in the league by a distance...
 

skybluecam

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,931
no_loyalty said:
Roy Keane doesn’t agree
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He’s such a contrarian prick at times. Funny but to try and pretend that wasn’t impressive is ridiculous.
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,932
This is one part of football that I absolutely hate and feel is ruining the game. I really hate to see it and even hate it when we do it ourselves.

All the feigning injury and time wasting etc. Keepers just falling onto the ball for no reason.

I really cannot abide it and it spoils the game.

Horrible to see as a spectator and no entertainment value whatsoever.

It's basically conning and cheating and anti-football.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,933
The best league in the world.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,934
Otis said:
This is one part of football that I absolutely hate and feel is ruining the game. I really hate to see it and even hate it when we do it ourselves.
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I bloody love when we do it. We need to do it a lot more.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,935
Otis said:
This is one part of football that I absolutely hate and feel is ruining the game. I really hate to see it and even hate it when we do it ourselves.

All the feigning injury and time wasting etc. Keepers just falling onto the ball for no reason.

I really cannot abide it and it spoils the game.

Horrible to see as a spectator and no entertainment value whatsoever.

It's basically conning and cheating and anti-football.
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Oliver ruined the game just before HT. Arsenal just played the scenario
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,936
skybluecam said:
I bloody love when we do it. We need to do it a lot more.
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Totally ruins the game for me.

I just hate it, full stop. Doesn't matter who is doing it, us or the opposition.

To my mind, it is just anti-football and should have no place in the game
 
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shepardo01

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,937
no_loyalty said:
Roy Keane doesn’t agree
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wingy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,938
shepardo01 said:
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Viktor Gokyeres!
 

Frostie

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,939
Otis said:
This is one part of football that I absolutely hate and feel is ruining the game. I really hate to see it and even hate it when we do it ourselves.

All the feigning injury and time wasting etc. Keepers just falling onto the ball for no reason.

I really cannot abide it and it spoils the game.

Horrible to see as a spectator and no entertainment value whatsoever.

It's basically conning and cheating and anti-football.
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Agreed. You will never stop teams from doing it of course, but it's effectiveness is so easily reduced by having referees actually prepared to enforce the laws that exist.

I have all the sympathy in the world for referees, it's a thankless job & they will get decisions wrong. All that I have no problem with, but their inability/unwillingness to manage this aspect of the game is infuriating. As long as teams continue to be rewarded for cheating, they will continue to do it.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,940
Frostie said:
Agreed. You will never stop teams from doing it of course, but it's effectiveness is so easily reduced by having referees actually prepared to enforce the laws that exist.

I have all the sympathy in the world for referees, it's a thankless job & they will get decisions wrong. All that I have no problem with, but their inability/unwillingness to manage this aspect of the game is infuriating. As long as teams continue to be rewarded for cheating, they will continue to do it.
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When did wrestling become part of football too?
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,941
The Dark Arts?

It's a game of motherflipping football!!

Leeds used to do it all in the 70's and it was awful then and so dreadful to watch.

They would come here, score a goal and then just play act and waste time and try every dark art in the book.

It was the absolute opposite of entertainment.

I watched that game today and though I am not that keen on Man City, I celebrated when they scored.

Cheats shouldn't prosper (I am talking ON the pitch, before anyone pipes up )

Refs need to given the powers and incentive to nip it in the bud.

I am puzzled as to why anyone would be in favour of this kind of tactic, because all you do is get less football and we only get to see about 30 odd minutes in actual play at the moment, as it stands anyway.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,942
Otis said:
The Dark Arts?

It's a game of motherflipping football!!

Leeds used to do it all in the 70's and it was awful then and so dreadful to watch.

They would come here, score a goal and then just play act and waste time and try every dark art in the book.

It was the absolute opposite of entertainment.

I watched that game today and though I am not that keen on Man City, I celebrated when they scored.

Cheats shouldn't prosper (I am talking ON the pitch, before anyone pipes up )

Refs need to given the powers and incentive to nip it in the bud.

I am puzzled as to why anyone would be in favour of this kind of tactic, because all you do is get less football and we only get to see about 30 odd minutes in actual play at the moment, as it stands anyway.
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There is a counter to this, everyone is adopting the pep mantra/template of football management and that is making me Sick tbf so not quite as black and white for me, but yes extremely frustrating?
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,943
wingy said:
There is a counter to this, everyone is adopting the pep mantra/template of football management and that is making me Sick tbf so not quite as black and white for me, but yes extremely frustrating?
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When we think back to the POfinal that wasn't the same brand but we showed guts and determination, with a sprinkling of gold dust,this new style was exciting last season but this,its only 18 game's or so though!
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,944
skybluecam said:
What on earth do you expect with 10 men

That was one of the best displays of defensive football I’ve ever seen.
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For a team to try to score a third and win the game, justice was done at the end.
 

skybluecam

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  • Sep 22, 2024
  • #8,945
Terry Gibson's perm said:
For a team to try to score a third and win the game, justice was done at the end.
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Against Man City at home?

They would’ve scored 4 or 5.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,946
skybluecam said:
Against Man City at home?

They would’ve scored 4 or 5.
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They could have left one up to try, I f it had been the other way round Man City wouldn’t have sat back, the negative play from Arteta is why they won’t win it unless Man City get a deduction.
 

Hutch11

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,947
You're playing one of the best teams in world football let alone England and you do what you have to to try and gain the points
People forget that Arsenal had a lead to defend by virtue of having a go
Had they been losing at half time they'd have gone for it more and probably got hammered
Whilst it wasn't pretty to watch there was a certain fascination in watching them defending
 

Otis

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,948
Hutch11 said:
You're playing one of the best teams in world football let alone England and you do what you have to to try and gain the points
People forget that Arsenal had a lead to defend by virtue of having a go
Had they been losing at half time they'd have gone for it more and probably got hammered
Whilst it wasn't pretty to watch there was a certain fascination in watching them defending
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Fine, but where's the fascination with them keep rolling around on the floor, faking injuries?

Anti-football, anti-entertainment.

Not talking about their defensive display, which was outstanding. I am talking about the blatant cheating.

Needs eradicating from the game.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,949
Wolves in serious trouble, Liverpool and Man City coming up. I think their Chinese owners have pulled the plug.
 
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Hutch11

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,950
Part of it could be easily erradicated
Any player stays on the ground for 10 seconds or more , automatically bring the trainers on so that player then has to leave the pitch for 30 seconds

No idea what to do about goalies falling to the floor after a simple catch other than implement the rules that already exist ie adding sufficient time on and booking persistent offenders

Swansea on Saturday took a full minute with each throw in and goal kick and including time taking the teams off for over 5 minutes how was it justified adding only 8 minutes
Until teams are deterred properly they won't change, why should they
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,951
Hutch11 said:
Part of it could be easily erradicated
Any player stays on the ground for 10 seconds or more , automatically bring the trainers on so that player then has to leave the pitch for 30 seconds

No idea what to do about goalies falling to the floor after a simple catch other than implement the rules that already exist ie adding sufficient time on and booking persistent offenders

Swansea on Saturday took a full minute with each throw in and goal kick and including time taking the teams off for over 5 minutes how was it justified adding only 8 minutes
Until teams are deterred properly they won't change, why should they
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Yup. Can't blame them for bending the rules to within an inch of their lives.

Has to come from the authorities. Give the refs the powers and for refs to actually implement the rules that are already in place.

Stealing an extra 5-10 yards for a throw in, barely gets picked up on at times.

The goalie dropping to the floor for no reason, is just ridiculous.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,952
Hutch11 said:
No idea what to do about goalies falling to the floor after a simple catch other than implement the rules that already exist ie adding sufficient time on and booking persistent offenders
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think this is the most frustrating part. the rules exist but they aren't enforced. there would be zero point in time wasting if you knew that time was being added on but we all know it doesn't happen.
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,953
chiefdave said:
think this is the most frustrating part. the rules exist but they aren't enforced. there would be zero point in time wasting if you knew that time was being added on but we all know it doesn't happen.
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Said before, the only real answer is the scoreboard synchronised with the ref's watch, so the keeper could actually see that the clock has stopped and time wasting just wasn't working.

Still wouldn't stop them from using it to break up momentum though would it.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,954
Would love to see them do a trial game with the clock being stopped when the ball isn't in play so it finishes on exactly 45 and 90 minutes. Game would probably take about 4 hours
 
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Hutch11

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,955
chiefdave said:
Would love to see them do a trial game with the clock being stopped when the ball isn't in play so it finishes on exactly 45 and 90 minutes. Game would probably take about 4 hours
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Apparently yesterday's second half the ball was in play 35 minutes , the most it has been in any pl match this season
 

Frostie

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,956
Hutch11 said:
Apparently yesterday's second half the ball was in play 35 minutes , the most it has been in any pl match this season
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Given that City were chasing the game & had 88% possession, that doesn't surprise me.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,957
Frostie said:
Given that City were chasing the game & had 88% possession, that doesn't surprise me.
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Nope, me neither. Arsenal were happy just letting Man City keep the ball.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 23, 2024
  • #8,958
You do what you need to to get points.
 
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Otis

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  • Sep 24, 2024
  • #8,959
Nick said:
You do what you need to to get points.
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Well, if that is the way football goes and you end up seeing that week in, week out, that would be the end for me, unfortunately. I would be done.

Players all falling to the floor with pretend cramp, to try and kill a game, isn't football.

I hope this stays a rarity.
 

Otis

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  • Sep 24, 2024
  • #8,960


Shouldn't that be (GiveMeStrength?)

His club stats are poor.
 
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