Postponed Matches investigation (1 Viewer)

jordan210 · Dec 29, 2020

According to some rumours the EFL are launching an investigation in to why some clubs have postponed matches for false reasons (m sure @Nick said this would happen)

Some clubs have been breaking Covid protocols by not using multiple buses and not giving players own hotel rooms.

Some rumours of the clubs being investigated Rotherham, Bournemouth and Sunderland (These are just rumours iv seen)

Will be interesting to see who is under investigation and what the punishment will be.

Nick · Dec 29, 2020

It was always obvious that people would play the game.

no_loyalty · Dec 29, 2020

What I don't get is that Liverpool had two players out with Covid and they still played, Man City had two players out with Covid and their game is postponed.

clint van damme · Dec 29, 2020

no_loyalty said:
What I don't get is that Liverpool had two players out with Covid and they still played, Man City had two players out with Covid and their game is postponed.

It's a complete mess and it's only going to get worse

chiefdave · Dec 29, 2020

Nick said:
It was always obvious that people would play the game.

Same with concussion substitutes, happened in cricket already.

India's Jadeja injured his hamstring batting against Australia but continued, later got hit on the head, still kept batting and made 44 from 23 balls, out of a total of 161-7. In the break before Australia batted he was substituted due to concussion and replaced with a specialist bowler who went on to take 3-25 and win man of the match!

speedie87 · Dec 29, 2020

no_loyalty said:
What I don't get is that Liverpool had two players out with Covid and they still played, Man City had two players out with Covid and their game is postponed.

Man City had two players out for Boxing Day and played. Subsequent tests found multiple others positive so would think would have had 4 or 5 out for yesterday plus players having to isolate

no_loyalty · Dec 29, 2020

speedie87 said:
Man City had two players out for Boxing Day and played. Subsequent tests found multiple others positive so would think would have had 4 or 5 out for yesterday plus players having to isolate

Fair enough, probably why then.

chiefdave · Dec 29, 2020

speedie87 said:
Man City had two players out for Boxing Day and played. Subsequent tests found multiple others positive so would think would have had 4 or 5 out for yesterday plus players having to isolate

The initial failed tests were two named players, Jesus and Walker, and two staff. The additional failed tests just said after testing players and staff which makes me wonder if any additional players were ruled out.

gazza · Dec 29, 2020

Rotherham cancelled their match against derby an hour or so before kick off, the derby team were already at the stadium

Skyblueweeman · Dec 29, 2020

Interesting.

Johnnythespider · Dec 29, 2020

If there is any guilt discovered the team breaking protocols should have to forfeit the points

Terry Gibson's perm · Dec 29, 2020

If there was one player at Man City you would have put money on catching Covid the serial shagger and rule breaker Walker would have been it.

SBT · Dec 29, 2020

Think people are mixing themselves up here. Sunderland are being investigated to see if they have been strict enough in enforcing coronavirus protocols. Not to see if they’ve been inventing coronavirus cases in order to have a day off.

Unless people think teams are falsifying cases (or deliberately infecting their players with coronavirus) just because they didn’t feel like playing for some reason, I’m not sure why points deductions would come into it.

Londonccfcfan · Dec 29, 2020

Terry Gibson's perm said:
If there was one player at Man City you would have put money on catching Covid the serial shagger and rule breaker Walker would have been it.

I can imagine hes getting dogs abuse lol

AFCCOVENTRY · Dec 29, 2020

jordan210 said:
According to some rumours the EFL are launching an investigation in to why some clubs have postponed matches for false reasons (m sure @Nick said this would happen)

Some clubs have been breaking Covid protocols by not using multiple buses and not giving players own hotel rooms.

Some rumours of the clubs being investigated Rotherham, Bournemouth and Sunderland (These are just rumours iv seen)

Will be interesting to see who is under investigation and what the punishment will be.

Rotherham and Bournemouth should be given 12 points deduction and Sunderland -24 pts deduction.

Liquid Gold · Dec 29, 2020

Would be nice to see Rotherham lose some points.

Sky Blue Harry H · Dec 29, 2020

Liquid Gold said:
Would be nice to see Rotherham lose some points.

Come on Barnsley tonight !!

Happy_Martian · Dec 29, 2020

On the other side of the coin, would the EFL penalise teams if by forcing the game to be played, the risk to others (officials, opposition players) would be too great ? Rotherham are playing because they have to or face a points deduction.

Paul Warne: Rotherham United boss fears 'points deduction' if Barnsley game called off

Rotherham United boss Paul Warne says his side fear a points deduction if they were to call off Tuesday's derby with Barnsley.

www.bbc.co.uk

Barnsley · Dec 29, 2020

Sky Blue Harry H said:
Come on Barnsley tonight !!

Smashing um pal

SBT · Dec 30, 2020

Happy_Martian said:
On the other side of the coin, would the EFL penalise teams if by forcing the game to be played, the risk to others (officials, opposition players) would be too great ? Rotherham are playing because they have to or face a points deduction.

Paul Warne: Rotherham United boss fears 'points deduction' if Barnsley game called off

Rotherham United boss Paul Warne says his side fear a points deduction if they were to call off Tuesday's derby with Barnsley.

www.bbc.co.uk

This sums it up. Teams are under huge pressure to fulfil their fixtures, not to cancel them. The idea that teams would risk a points deduction just because they fancied a rest has always been ridiculous.

Nick · Dec 30, 2020

SBT said:
This sums it up. Teams are under huge pressure to fulfil their fixtures, not to cancel them. The idea that teams would risk a points deduction just because they fancied a rest has always been ridiculous.

It depends on the team doesn't it?

SBT · Dec 30, 2020

Nick said:
It depends on the team doesn't it?

I mean, I guess? But it’s such a reckless gamble that it would have to be an extreme case to convince me. People on here were suggesting teams were trying it in the first few weeks of the season. It made no sense. People talking as if this was pub league stuff.

Nick · Dec 30, 2020

SBT said:
I mean, I guess? But it’s such a reckless gamble that it would have to be an extreme case to convince me. People on here were suggesting teams were trying it in the first few weeks of the season. It made no sense. People talking as if this was pub league stuff.

It makes perfect sense that people will try and manipulate the situation.

SBT · Dec 30, 2020

Nick said:
It makes perfect sense that people will try and manipulate the situation.

Paul Warne’s comments suggest otherwise. Again, this isn’t Sunday League.

Nick · Dec 30, 2020

SBT said:
Paul Warne’s comments suggest otherwise. Again, this isn’t Sunday League.

One manager said "possibility of a points deduction".

Did Tranmere get one when their players were car sharing?

There are no set rules, it is made up as they go along. It may as well be Sunday League.

SBT · Dec 30, 2020

Nick said:
One manager said "possibility of a points deduction".

Did Tranmere get one when their players were car sharing?

There are no set rules, it is made up as they go along. It may as well be Sunday League.

I’ll take one manager speaking on the record as better evidence than randoms on a message board!

The rules have been clear since, well 1997, when they kept us up - fuck around with postponing fixtures for dodgy reasons, and you could lose points.

If Tranmere players have been car sharing then I’d rather assume that was because of sloppy application of the COVID rules (imagine that!) rather than some conspiracy to throw a game because they’re tired. Deliberately exposing your players to a deadly virus because you don’t fancy next week’s opponents seems a bit extreme to me.

Nick · Dec 30, 2020

SBT said:
I’ll take one manager speaking on the record as better evidence than randoms on a message board!

The rules have been clear since, well 1997, when they kept us up - fuck around with postponing fixtures for dodgy reasons, and you could lose points.

If Tranmere players have been car sharing then I’d rather assume that was because of sloppy application of the COVID rules (imagine that!) rather than some conspiracy to throw a game because they’re tired. Deliberately exposing your players to a deadly virus because you don’t fancy next week’s opponents seems a bit extreme to me.

Exactly, "could" lose points. It's at discretion which means it is made up as they go along.

Have the rules been clear? Were they clear when Bolton were picking and choosing?

skyblueexile · Dec 30, 2020

our problem is the defence keeps going into isolation - but does tell the goalkeeper

letsallsingtogether · Dec 31, 2020

Nick said:
There are no set rules, it is made up as they go along. It may as well be Sunday League.

Exactly this.

David O'Day · Dec 31, 2020

no_loyalty said:
Fair enough, probably why then.

But rules say as long as you have 14 fit players you should play as per the agreed protocols

Terry Gibson's perm · Dec 31, 2020

These teams also have loads of youth players they could play them in f needed

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