possibly 11 new signings now if bigi goes (1 Viewer)

dongonzalos · May 30, 2012

....................................Murphy/Dunn

Clarke/Christie.......... Cameron / Wood.........Hussey/NS ..................
.................................NS (?) Willis

Bell/Baker ................ Deegan/ NS .....................Sheff/NS .............................
..............................Thomas/NS/ NS

................................Cody/NS ..............................
..... ............ ................NS/NS

Otis · May 30, 2012

Where's your 'yeah, right' at the end?

WillieStanley · May 30, 2012

"yeah, right" is the bit that makes it funny, is it? I get it now!! :claping hands:

dongonzalos · May 30, 2012

That's 8 to have a squad of 22 and 2 players in each position. Which we have found in the past is not a deep enough squad to stay up in divisions.

So 11 to have a squad of 25. Which will still be thin possibly too thin but should stay up.

I think we are due a bit of good news re the stadium but we need to get our feelings out there about how may signings are needed if it happens.

SISU or new owners need to know 11 is minimum not a pipe dream.

valiant15 · May 30, 2012

Exactly how many senior pro's do we have at the mo?

stupot07 · May 30, 2012

Bell
Baker
Cody
Deegan
Rod
McPake
Wood
Keogh
Sheffers
Murphy
Dunn
Hussey

12....

valiant15 · May 30, 2012

Blimey,i didn't realise it was that small.

ccfctommy · May 30, 2012

You missed out Cameron.

ccfctommy · May 30, 2012

And Clarke and Christie!

Houchens Head · May 30, 2012

.........and Uncle Tom Cobley!

melbourneskyblue · May 30, 2012

valiant15 said:
Blimey,i didn't realise it was that small.

oooooooo matron

ccfcdan · May 30, 2012

Don't worry, there's going to be a statement tomorrow by Andy Thorn, he's going to reveal his summer targets and announce the players that have already agreed to sign.

Yeah right.

Sub · May 30, 2012

wohoooooo must mean its nearly the best day in the week NEWS THURSDAY :claping hands::claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:

stupot07 · May 30, 2012

I wouldnt class Cameron, Christie and Clarke as 'senior' pro's tommy, they are all still young and learning their trade, hence why I left them off that list.

SkyBlueJohnso · May 30, 2012

Cranie???

we definitely a couple more experienced heads to bring the young talent on we already have in the club coming through the academy

dongonzalos · May 30, 2012

My list is if as I think we all know will happen, cranie Keogh, Bigi, mcpake and rod go. Mcpake and rod are a maybe in my book. The others are a cert.

I think someone will get half the stadium in a few weeks. A condition of this is that they need to make the team competitive.

I think it is our job as fans to pre empt this and somehow get it out there that competitive means 11 signings. Anything else is a breach of the deal.
whilst the deal is been made and people are inserting clauses they need to understand this.

Unfortunately on paper 11 new signings sounds like the pipe dream request of some unrealistic fan.

However when we look at the facts it actually is the minimum required to make us competitive.

The question is how fo we get this info out there?

ccfctommy · May 30, 2012

stupot07 said:
I wouldnt class Cameron, Christie and Clarke as 'senior' pro's tommy, they are all still young and learning their trade, hence why I left them off that list.

I get what you mean, but Cameron has been in the first team for two years and Clarke for more.

stupot07 · May 30, 2012

ccfctommy said:
I get what you mean, but Cameron has been in the first team for two years and Clarke for more.

Yep - they may have been in and around the first team for a couple of years but in terms of footballing experience have both started less than a seasons worth of games Clarke 37 starts and Cameron 33 starts, I just don't class 20 year olds with limited playing experience as senior pro's.

theprince · May 30, 2012

When we got promotion in 1962 and 1967 and won the cup in 1987 i bet we never used 16 players in any of those seasons

gouldberg · May 30, 2012

If the players we expect to leave were to go tonight and the season were to start tomorrow the side would be something like this;

Murphy
Clarke--Cameron--Willis--Hussey
Deegan
Bell--Baker
Thomas
McDonald--McSheffrey

Subs; Dunn, Christie, Ruffles, Jeffers, Sky Blue Sam

Either we're well and truly screwed or something incredible has to happen over the next few weeks.

coundonskyblue · May 30, 2012

When you see it like this you realise just how small the squad could be within the next few weeks.

Leaving out players likely/rumoured to leave (Keogh, Cranie, Bigi, McPake, ROD, Wood), and the youngsters (under 21 - Clarke, Jeffers, Cameron, Christie, Thomas), we would have this:

Joe Murphy
Chris Hussey
David Bell
Carl Baker
Gary McSheffrey
Gary Deegan
Chris Dunn
Cody McDonald

9 Players!

Sky Blue Kid · May 30, 2012

dongonzalos said:
That's 8 to have a squad of 22 and 2 players in each position. Which we have found in the past is not a deep enough squad to stay up in divisions.

So 11 to have a squad of 25. Which will still be thin possibly too thin but should stay up.

I think we are due a bit of good news re the stadium but we need to get our feelings out there about how may signings are needed if it happens.

SISU or new owners need to know 11 is minimum not a pipe dream.

That is exactly what I said yesterday...25 experienced players.... one player cover for every position, and three universal players(Who can play all positions.)....This is bare minimum

AFCCOVENTRY · May 30, 2012

Team at the moment with rumoured out-goings is:

Murphy
Clarke
Cameron
Willis
Hussey

Bell
Deegan
Thomas
Baker

Cody
Sheff

dongonzalos · May 30, 2012

AFCCOVENTRY said:
Team at the moment with rumoured out-goings is:

Murphy
Clarke
Cameron
Willis
Hussey

Bell
Deegan
Thomas
Baker

Cody
Sheff

IMO its actually a very good team, a squad should be 25-30 players so what will the squad be if the embargo is in place?

SkyBlue_Bear83 · May 30, 2012

stupot07 said:
Bell
Baker
Cody
Deegan
Rod
McPake
Wood
Keogh
Sheffers
Murphy
Dunn
Hussey

12....

Even then it is stretching it to call Dunn, Hussey and ROD senior pros.

shy_tall_knight · May 30, 2012

Murphy
Clarke - Has had a long term injury
Cameron missed the last few months of last season
Willis
Hussey - another long term injury a few seasons back

Bell sick note
Deegan - has an awful injury record
Thomas
Baker - missed quite a bit with injury

Cody - missed a large chunk of last year injured
Sheff missed the last part of the previous season cos injured

That XI would rarely remain fit.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 30, 2012

dongonzalos said:
IMO its actually a very good team, a squad should be 25-30 players so what will the squad be if the embargo is in place?

I'd be quite concerned at how young the back 4 is in that team-particularly with nobody in reserve.

Jimmy Hill's Chin · May 30, 2012

I make it 7 players have left since last season - Clingan, Eastwood, Platt, Nimely, Norwood, Herman and Ireland. I also expect at least five more departures before the start of next season - Bigi, Keogh, Cranie, Wood and McPake. With as many as 12 players leaving an already threadbare squad and all quality being removed (with the possible exception of McSheffrey) we have to have 10-12 new experienced players minimum before the start of the season. Anything less and we cease to be a viable football club.

spudgun2000 · May 30, 2012

I wish that SISU would get their act into gear and decide what they want to do with the club, that way we can move forward and have a chance of rebuilding the club to the standard the city deserves

Nonleagueherewecome · May 30, 2012

dongonzalos said:
IMO its actually a very good team, a squad should be 25-30 players so what will the squad be if the embargo is in place?

It's a decent side, but for most games, take out 3-4 players with injuries. Suddenly, we're easy pickings.

Nonleagueherewecome · May 30, 2012

shy_tall_knight said:
Murphy - Had to be substituted with injury twice
Clarke - Has had a long term injury
Cameron missed the last few months of last season
Willis
Hussey - another long term injury a few seasons back -carried a knock for 3 months and missed a month this season

Bell sick note
Deegan - has an awful injury record
Thomas - had a knock in pre-season and one after Xmas that kept him out for a while
Baker - missed quite a bit with injury

Cody - missed a large chunk of last year injured
Sheff missed the last part of the previous season cos injured -Joe Elliott told my brother 18 months ago "his knees gone, he can only perform at peak fitness for 2-3 months a season now"

That XI would rarely remain fit.

Added the extra bits you missed/didn't know. This is without considering burnout, as hit all the kids this season, or in Thorn Speak, "His stats are way down on what they were".

dongonzalos · May 30, 2012

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I'd be quite concerned at how young the back 4 is in that team-particularly with nobody in reserve.

No I agree, it is a good 11 however try and list 27 to 30 players if the embargo is still in place.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 30, 2012

The fixture list's due out soon-and before we know it August will be here. We need to hit the ground running and the longer the nonsense at the top drags on, the more likely we are to start half ready and unprepared.

Jack Griffin · May 30, 2012

This is the squad on the offal

1 Joe Murphy Goalkeeper
2 Richard Keogh Defender
3 Chris Hussey Defender
6 James McPake Defender
7 David Bell Midfielder
8 Carl Baker Midfielder
11 Gary McSheffrey Striker
12 Gary Deegan Midfielder
13 Chris Dunn Goalkeeper
14 Cody McDonald Striker
15 Martin Cranie Defender
19 Roy O'Donovan Striker
24 Richard Wood Defender
26 Jordan Clarke Defender
27 Shaun Jeffers Striker
28 Callum Wilson Striker
29 Billy Daniels Striker
30 Nathan Cameron Defender
31 Cyrus Christie Defender
32 Conor Thomas Midfielder
33 Lee Burge Goalkeeper
34 Gael Bigirimana Midfielder
35 Joshua Ruffels Midfielder
36 Aaron Phillips Midfielder
37 Jordan Willis Defender
38 Will Roberts Midfielder
39 Joe Henderson
99 Sky Blue Sam

I think Cranie is out of contract, so we won't be seeing him

dongonzalos · May 30, 2012

Still got a feeling something will happen within 14 days. But feel we need to get it out there that when it does, we need 11 signings. Anything else is not competitive.

How do we get it out there. I have let Mr Mutton know my view.

Can you speak to Andy Turner BSB or has that relationship soured?

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