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oucho

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  • Oct 14, 2017
  • #281
Adge said:
Remember the Thorn gem of "I always wanted Cody McDonald over Adam Lefondra, he was our first choice"!:emoji_grin:
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Actually ALF was first choice but the board dithered for so long the opportunity passed us by. Thorn told me so himself.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 14, 2017
  • #282
oucho said:
Actually ALF was first choice but the board dithered for so long the opportunity passed us by. Thorn told me so himself.
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Did he also tell you which premier league club tried to sign Kevin Malaga? Was he pissed when he told you or did he reserve that for training sessions?
 
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Gazolba

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #283
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Using the exception to the rule to prove your point is deeply flawed. How many players are actually ready at 16? Rooney clearly was, but even the likes of Messi didn’t really shine till 19. Besides, these are either world class or potentially world class players. Ponticelli was signed as an academy player at 17, he’s been involved in a professional environment for barely 2-3 years. So I really do believe MR when he says ‘he isn’t up to standard yet’.

The main thing Ponticelli has got going for him is that he’s a natural goal scorer. So if we manage his development right, he’ll be a player who will be able to move up the leagues with us if we do get a bit of momentum.

The kid has got bags of potential, but, potential and current ability are two different things.
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Do you really think he'll still be with us when he is fully developed?
What standard does he have to live up to? He's already scored as many goals as all three of our regular strikers combined.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #284
I'd give him the next three games now playing just ahead of Nazon with Vincenti in for DKE and Haynes for Stokes if possible. If he doesn't score then at least JP has then had a fair crack like the other strikers. No point giving him 5 minutes off the bench, I remember Strachan doing that to Aloisi who is a similar type of striker to JP.
 
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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #285
I'd give him the next 3 as well.

With Jones & Vinceti either side, Nazon behind and see what happens. Worst case scenario he doesn't score in any of the 3 or look like scoring and he's on a par with McNulty, Beavon & Biamou.

Don't get the 'fear' of Ponticelli playing, it's odd I sensed it when he scored v Walsall people almost disappointed. Then when it went to a shoot out odd post on twitter before saying words to effect they hoped he missed, obviously he scored and certain people went quiet.
 
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oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #286
It was before Malaga signed for us. As for the pissed at work thing, is there any actual proof that happened or just unproveable hearsay such as "McSheffrey said so at the time" etc which although probably bullshit can't be proven to be false?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #287
oucho said:
It was before Malaga signed for us. As for the pissed at work thing, is there any actual proof that happened or just unproveable hearsay such as "McSheffrey said so at the time" etc which although probably bullshit can't be proven to be false?
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I'm not sure why a long-term poster on this forum would make it up.
 
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oucho

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  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #288
Sick Boy said:
I'm not sure why a long-term poster on this forum would make it up.
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Ah, so the proof is that someone posted something on a web forum. Thanks, that's cleared that up.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #289
oucho said:
Ah, so the proof is that someone posted something on a web forum. Thanks, that's cleared that up.
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It came from an ex players wife and the poster wouldn't have had any reason to make it up.
 

mechaishida

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #290
Well, the chances are being created, but the lack of clinical finishing is costing us dearly - it's stating the obvious, I know, but that's the bare bones of it.

We missed Kelly yesterday, given, but an over-reliance of individuals is where Mowbray cocked up. Naturally, we're limited on who we can bring in, however I trust MR with this team. He needs more time to bring this unit together as a tenacious team who are ruthless and determined.

Ponti needs a few games, it's very clear.
 
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oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #291
Sick Boy said:
It came from an ex players wife and the poster wouldn't have had any reason to make it up.
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So a very reliable source.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #292
mechaishida said:
Well, the chances are being created, but the lack of clinical finishing is costing us dearly - it's stating the obvious, I know, but that's the bare bones of it.

We missed Kelly yesterday, given, but an over-reliance of individuals is where Mowbray cocked up. Naturally, we're limited on who we can bring in, however I trust MR with this team. He needs more time to bring this unit together as a tenacious team who are ruthless and determined.

Ponti needs a few games, it's very clear.
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What chances are being created?

It isn't stating the obvious unless you watched a completely different game yesterday and against Barnet.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #293
If you look at the highlights from yesterday I can only see the one chance where Nazon tees up Jones for a shot. The others all seem to be pot shots from distance.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #294
Otis said:
If you look at the highlights from yesterday I can only see the one chance where Nazon tees up Jones for a shot. The others all seem to be pot shots from distance.
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Exactly. People look at the shot stat and seem to think they are all open goals from 6 yards out being missed.
 
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play_in_skyblue_stripes

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  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #295
Nick said:
Exactly. People look at the shot stat and seem to think they are all open goals from 6 yards out being missed.
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Yes no more two or three half chances. Their keeper was pretty good but not overly streached.
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #296
play_in_skyblue_stripes said:
Yes no more two or three half chances. Their keeper was pretty good but not overly streached.
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There lies the problem with the team , opponents goalkeepers end up being there man of match .

We are not clinical enough , ie, bad decision making .

We just don't have enough quality in the team .
 

steve82

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  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #297
Otis said:
If you look at the highlights from yesterday I can only see the one chance where Nazon tees up Jones for a shot. The others all seem to be pot shots from distance.
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Correct we did not create one clear cut chance in the 18 years box yesterday, few half chances that were easily felt with between the keeper and his back 4 who were very organised.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
There lies the problem with the team , opponents goalkeepers end up being there man of match .

We are not clinical enough , ie, bad decision making .

We just don't have enough quality in the team .
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I see the point your making about the keeper... if I recall there sponsors man of the match was central defender Mark Hughes, but as the point your making if there defenders getting motm awards it says we've not achieved our targets and taken the points.
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #298
steve82 said:
Correct we did not create one clear cut chance in the 18 years box yesterday, few half chances that were easily felt with between the keeper and his back 4 who were very organised.



I see the point your making about the keeper... if I recall there sponsors man of the match was central defender Mark Hughes, but as the point your making if there defenders getting motm awards it says we've not achieved our targets and taken the points.
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I was talking about the season so far !!!

And as for sponsors man of the match , I think they see a different game to us some times !!!
 
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Cov kid 55

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  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #299
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I was talking about the season so far !!!

And as for sponsors man of the match , I think they see a different game to us some times !!!
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I would agree with man of the match yesterday, he was excellent in the air, gave nothing away all afternoon.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #300
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I was talking about the season so far !!!

And as for sponsors man of the match , I think they see a different game to us some times !!!
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I have been there when they chose the mom they go into one box and ask them so if you look at the difference in views on here, I imagine when joe Cole was here he got chosen a few times as it can come down to who you want to meet
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #301
Gazolba said:
Do you really think he'll still be with us when he is fully developed?
What standard does he have to live up to? He's already scored as many goals as all three of our regular strikers combined.
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He scored one goal. McNulty has 3 and Nazon 5...
 

Gint11

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 15, 2017
  • #302
Too much hype on this lad. He's done nothing yet. Not taking away his achievements at younger levels but come on, some of our fans are pinning all hope on this lad coming in being Pele and why? Give the lad time and little pressure to grow into first team football. He isn't the answer at the moment.


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mechaishida

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  • Oct 16, 2017
  • #303
Nick said:
What chances are being created?

It isn't stating the obvious unless you watched a completely different game yesterday and against Barnet.
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I meant generally, from an overview - we're missing an aggressive striker who can turn mere shots on goal into actual goals.

Naturally, we're also missing a 'playmaker', which is why Andreau is such a loss.

Would you give Ponticelli a few games grace, Nick? You're an ever present at matches, so your opinion is merited.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #304
Looks like a chance was created


It wasn't a 40 yarder, it wasn't a "take 5 players on and finish".

Cut back, goal.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #305
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #306
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #307
SlowerThanPlatt said:
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The thing is with that, he couldn't have got that pass in the first team to set him up.
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #308
SlowerThanPlatt said:
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He really is lethal around the box. When you're in form attempts like that go in. The ball fizzed around the box a few times Saturday. Most times our players fell over the ball or missed it completely. If we get a half chance in a game, of anyone at the club at the minute I'd want it to fall to him
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #309
Nick said:
Looks like a chance was created


It wasn't a 40 yarder, it wasn't a "take 5 players on and finish".

Cut back, goal.
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You think it might finally sink in?
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #310
Top finish. You can question the marking but I loved the way, watching it frame by frame, that he set himself for the shot the second the ball broke his way from the cut back...class.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #311
oucho said:
Top finish. You can question the marking but I loved the way, watching it frame by frame, that he set himself for the shot the second the ball broke his way from the cut back...class.
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Natural goalscorers instinct.
 
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westcountry_skyblue

Guest
  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #312
He needs his chance like i've been saying for ages but People saying to young,Not ready etc....
He looks ready to me and if we are going to get anything at Luton he needs to play the full 90 mins.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #313
He still needs the service though. Robins would need to stop being stubborn and being less negative to allow him to get chances.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #314
Nick said:
He still needs the service though. Robins would need to stop being stubborn and being less negative to allow him to get chances.
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Not going to happen Saturday that's for sure. If ever we need the current approach I would start this game is it.
 

oucho

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 23, 2017
  • #315
Nick said:
He still needs the service though. Robins would need to stop being stubborn and being less negative to allow him to get chances.
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Why not do both?
 
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