Players 'screaming' for free kicks (1 Viewer)

Sky Blue Harry H · Feb 25, 2021

During yesterday's game against Swansea, there was an incident about 10 mins from time, when a Swansea player by the left touchline in our half tried to shield the ball out for a throw in and our player put his leg around their player and kept it in play. Their player stumbled over and screamed and the ref gave a free kick. The (neutral) commentator said 'I didn't see much wrong there' or words to that effect. the ref gave the kick based on the fall/scream. I just wondered - with the lack of crowds - whether the 'scream' effect currently forces a knee jerk response in a lot of refs (as obviously some of these screams would be 'muted' by general crowd noise in normal circumstances). On a side note, did anybody else think that was a bit of an orchestrated mobbing of the referee at the supposed elbow incident (where he booked their player, not ours). if so, cynical and unsporting to say the least.

Nick · Feb 25, 2021

Worked though.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Feb 25, 2021

Sky Blue Harry H said:
During yesterday's game against Swansea, there was an incident about 10 mins from time, when a Swansea player by the left touchline in our half tried to shield the ball out for a throw in and our player put his leg around their player and kept it in play. Their player stumbled over and screamed and the ref gave a free kick. The (neutral) commentator said 'I didn't see much wrong there' or words to that effect. the ref gave the kick based on the fall/scream. I just wondered - with the lack of crowds - whether the 'scream' effect currently forces a knee jerk response in a lot of refs (as obviously some of these screams would be 'muted' by general crowd noise in normal circumstances. On a side note, did anybody else think that was a bit of an orchestrated mobbing of the referee at the supposed elbow incident (where he booked their player, not ours). if so, cynical and unsporting to say the least.

You can see Refs are being more generous in some situations probably down to the lack of crowd noise and players manipulating in a way as they are able to run around after wards

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 25, 2021

Swansea were the best at shithousery

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Feb 25, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Swansea were the best at shithousery

Steve Cook

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 25, 2021

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Steve Cook

He’d fit in well

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Feb 25, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
He’d fit in well

Steve cook would fit in a group of drunk buggers who have had their face mashed up or Richard Keough

larry_david · Feb 25, 2021

It's utterly embarrassing tbh. Mccallum kept the ball in with ease at the end and two of their players jumped up and down screaming. I wish we'd be be more aggressive and cocky back. When they start screaming like women I'd mock em or say something. Wind them up.

If I screamed playing 6 aside like they all do I'd get laughed off the pitch. Why don't more players laugh at them and take the piss!?

JulianDarbyFTW · Feb 25, 2021

I was very angry about this last night. I thought their play-acting was embarrassing, both for them and the game as a whole. And then I got out of my chair and made that noise that old people make and winced, and realised that I'm no better than them.

Esoterica · Feb 25, 2021

I still can't get over the one in the first half where McCallum got his yellow. On his 3rd roll he jumped about 1 metre up in the air.

SBT · Feb 25, 2021

I think it’s overblown tbh. It’s very unusual to us, hearing player shouts for the first time, but it will be commonplace for refs who have been taking charge of reserve/youth games behind closed doors for years. I don’t see how they’re suddenly more likely to be swayed by players appealing for stuff now. Nor do I see how players shouting for fouls is more persuasive than thousands of fans shouting for the same fouls when we were back inside the stadium.

larry_david · Feb 25, 2021

Ayew is an incredible human being. When someone breathes on him he falls over rolling 17 times but when he's got the ball and someone tries to out muscle him, he holds them off.

He's a medical marvel, they should study him really

jordan210 · Feb 25, 2021

basically every team we play. have played the ref. yet we never do.

We need to be screaming for everything. Any contact in the box go down.

no_loyalty · Feb 25, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Swansea were the best at shithousery

Their number 23 kept going down as if he had been shot.

Dickie · Feb 25, 2021

Sky Blue Harry H said:
During yesterday's game against Swansea, there was an incident about 10 mins from time, when a Swansea player by the left touchline in our half tried to shield the ball out for a throw in and our player put his leg around their player and kept it in play. Their player stumbled over and screamed and the ref gave a free kick. The (neutral) commentator said 'I didn't see much wrong there' or words to that effect. the ref gave the kick based on the fall/scream. I just wondered - with the lack of crowds - whether the 'scream' effect currently forces a knee jerk response in a lot of refs (as obviously some of these screams would be 'muted' by general crowd noise in normal circumstances. On a side note, did anybody else think that was a bit of an orchestrated mobbing of the referee at the supposed elbow incident (where he booked their player, not ours). if so, cynical and unsporting to say the least.

Swansea are terrible at bullying the refs into submission. They fall for it nearly every time. It’s like they think - oh, they must be right they’re making such a fuss. Makes you wonder why the officials before game don’t brush up on what sort of play acting teams do and consider that during games

Dickie · Feb 25, 2021

larry_david said:
Ayew is an incredible human being. When someone breathes on him he falls over rolling 17 times but when he's got the ball and someone tries to out muscle him, he holds them off.

He's a medical marvel, they should study him really

Utter cheat. Embarrassing. But it works unfortunately

hill83 · Feb 25, 2021

jordan210 said:
bacilli

Cracking little player for Perugia back the the early 90s.

Nick · Feb 25, 2021

The worst thing was, we stood by and let them do it.

Baka came on and got involved, very submissive players.

Lets face it, people wouldn't have moaned if Ohare got a penalty when he dived. I wouldn't have if we won the game from it.

larry_david · Feb 25, 2021

I think it's partly why mccallum and then osti put them into row z. You wanna roll around crying, here ya go. Bang

Sky Blue Harry H · Feb 25, 2021

Nick said:
The worst thing was, we stood by and let them do it.

Baka came on and got involved, very submissive players.

Lets face it, people wouldn't have moaned if Ohare got a penalty when he dived. I wouldn't have if we won the game from it.

You must love Osti then, Nick (as do I); he literally looks and acts as though he is itching for a scrap every time we have a corner; particularly if it's one of those that takes an age due to pushing, shoving, grappling. Refs really do cop out on making any sort of decisions during those.

Nick · Feb 25, 2021

Sky Blue Harry H said:
You must love Osti then, Nick (as do I); he literally looks and acts as though he is itching for a scrap every time we have a corner; particularly if it's one of those that takes an age due to pushing, shoving, grappling. Refs really do cop out on making any sort of decisions during those.

Yeah but he is still pretty passive most of the time.

We stood by and let them time waste and roll around and then let the ref just accept it.

Liquid Gold · Feb 25, 2021

It was particularly nasty when they claimed an elbow after their player bought ours down. That sort of shit should come under the banner of 'bringing the game into disrepute' and harshly punished. A few warnings in case players get the wrong end of the stick and are just sticking up for their team mate but if it's regular it needs to be stamped out.

The ref last night was weak as piss, he needed to control the game more as it got out of hand but there must have been those comments on his mind.

The whole incident with Darren Drysdale has bought what refs have to put up with into focus. They should tell them that anything that isn't respectful should be a booking. Ayew screamed at the ref for a good 20 seconds from a few yards away and nothing happened - book him, the Swansea players completely surrounded the ref a couple of times after he'd already blown - book them all. After a few weeks of crazy cards, sending offs and results they'd get the message. The FA should bring in much higher penalties for bookings that come from dissent with this too, say 10% of a players gross weekly wage.

Nick · Feb 25, 2021

He should have booked Ayew for dissent early doors.

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 25, 2021

Esoterica said:
I still can't get over the one in the first half where McCallum got his yellow. On his 3rd roll he jumped about 1 metre up in the air.

Looked like he broke his neck too

Sky Blue Pete · Feb 25, 2021

jordan210 said:
basically every team we play. have played the ref. yet we never do.

We need to be screaming for everything. Any contact in the box go down.

Kelly does

jordan210 · Feb 25, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Kelly does

Need more than 1 person to do it. You need to put doubts in a ref minds so needs basicly all of them

SBT · Feb 25, 2021

More importantly, you need to be in the other team's area to do it. I think that's the main reason we don't get as many penalties.

stevefloyd · Feb 25, 2021

Sky Blue Harry H said:
During yesterday's game against Swansea, there was an incident about 10 mins from time, when a Swansea player by the left touchline in our half tried to shield the ball out for a throw in and our player put his leg around their player and kept it in play. Their player stumbled over and screamed and the ref gave a free kick. The (neutral) commentator said 'I didn't see much wrong there' or words to that effect. the ref gave the kick based on the fall/scream. I just wondered - with the lack of crowds - whether the 'scream' effect currently forces a knee jerk response in a lot of refs (as obviously some of these screams would be 'muted' by general crowd noise in normal circumstances). On a side note, did anybody else think that was a bit of an orchestrated mobbing of the referee at the supposed elbow incident (where he booked their player, not ours). if so, cynical and unsporting to say the least.

To be fair the ref was welsh voice activated last night

stevefloyd · Feb 25, 2021

Esoterica said:
I still can't get over the one in the first half where McCallum got his yellow. On his 3rd roll he jumped about 1 metre up in the air.

Best quote was its a wonder they dont get whiplash how quick they throw themselves to the ground....made I larf

Terry Gibson's perm · Feb 25, 2021

I hate it when players shield the ball out they do it for goal kicks from the edge of the box it should be a free for all and boot him as much as you want

Nick · Feb 25, 2021

Terry Gibson's perm said:
I hate it when players shield the ball out they do it for goal kicks from the edge of the box it should be a free for all and boot him as much as you want

I agree

shmmeee · Feb 25, 2021

Can someone tell me what the rule is on shoulder barges as well?

Hamer gets done all the time for barging people off the ball, yet apparently a two hand shove on Dacosta in the area isn’t a pen.

When are you allowed to use your strength and when aren’t you?

Nick · Feb 25, 2021

shmmeee said:
Can someone tell me what the rule is on shoulder barges as well?

Hamer gets done all the time for barging people off the ball, yet apparently a two hand shove on Dacosta in the area isn’t a pen.

When are you allowed to use your strength and when aren’t you?

Refs make it up as they go along.

skyblueinBaku · Feb 25, 2021

Nick said:
Refs make it up as they go along.

I think that a shoulder charge is allowed under the laws, but it must be shoulder to shoulder and not use excessive force.

Johhny Blue · Feb 25, 2021

Nick said:
The worst thing was, we stood by and let them do it.

Baka came on and got involved, very submissive players.

Lets face it, people wouldn't have moaned if Ohare got a penalty when he dived. I wouldn't have if we won the game from it.

I don’t think it was a dive

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