PH4 has bid (3 Viewers)
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Nonleagueherewecome
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And so many Irish people won on it, although that could be because they could understand Henry..
NorthernWisdom
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"Is the answer an Irish quiz show host?"
Now that'd be a twist nobody expected!
I now feel compelled to go and Google who he supported!
NorthernWisdom
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"Is the answer an Irish quiz show host?"
Now that'd be a twist nobody expected!
I now feel compelled to go and Google who he supported!
NorthernWisdom
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I'll do you a deal, and try and count to ten on anything I see as insulting, as long as you now have a catchphrase of 'Leave it out'
Preferably in a cockney accent
ajsccfc
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What am I?
A former footballer, I allegedly nailed Matt Carbon's sister and kicked the shit out of a shop window. If I was manager of your team (application via social media) I'd introduce good football which would win matches, which I can only assume nobody has tried to do in the past and so I'd definitely be great.
A former footballer, I allegedly nailed Matt Carbon's sister and kicked the shit out of a shop window. If I was manager of your team (application via social media) I'd introduce good football which would win matches, which I can only assume nobody has tried to do in the past and so I'd definitely be great.
...I'll do you a deal, and try and count to ten on anything I see as insulting, as long as you now have a catchphrase of 'Leave it out'
Preferably in a cockney accent
deal
The Penguin
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inside track
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The clue to how successful this Haskell bid is likely to be is in the word "if" in the Coventry Telegraph headline: he'll buy the Ricoh "IF he can complete City takeover."
I will lay money with anyone who cares to take me on that the administrator's report will be inconclusive, particularly in respect of the Golden Share.
Pound to a penny, he will find that the club is owned and run by ''Holdings' and that anyone who wants to buy it must approach its owners - in other words, Elliott/Hoffman/Haskell would have to negotiate with Sisu, and Sisu will not deal with Elliott.
Nothing has changed.
I will lay money with anyone who cares to take me on that the administrator's report will be inconclusive, particularly in respect of the Golden Share.
Pound to a penny, he will find that the club is owned and run by ''Holdings' and that anyone who wants to buy it must approach its owners - in other words, Elliott/Hoffman/Haskell would have to negotiate with Sisu, and Sisu will not deal with Elliott.
Nothing has changed.
inside track
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In fact - to prove my point:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-fc-administrator-leaves-3862802
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-fc-administrator-leaves-3862802
Brighton Sky Blue
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So they would reject even the most stupendous offer in the world just because it came headed by someone they didn't like?
inside track
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Depends whether you regard £69-million as 'stupendous'. Mr Haskell's previous attempts to buy into English football, at Leeds, Charlton and Bolton suggests that he was unable to satisfy those clubs that he could deliver that sort of money.
As for Sisu's view of Elliott, it appears to come down to an issue of trust, and it is quite likely that there is considerable mistrust on both sides. Not a great starting point for negotiation, really, is it?
rustyredline
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Well i accused of contradicting yourself. Never being a plant, you're far too inarticulate. You always moan about ppl throwing insults. But you resort to this alot with words that have ish on the end alot
NorthernWisdom
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"£163,294 plus VAT for 475 hours' work since his appointment up to May 14. The administrator's solicitors, Stephenson Harwood LLP, had incurred another £143,64"
£343 an hour .. to make a few phone calls & sift through a few legal documents.. what a total racket this business is..
so over a quarter of a million pounds of costs already.. for us to be really no further down the line... yeah i bet he needs more time to go through things!!!
and this is for a non operational company with supposedly very little assets !! i wonder how long it would take & how much the bill would be for a very active company , with loads of assets.. my guess is most likely pretty much exactly the same amount of time!
£343 an hour .. to make a few phone calls & sift through a few legal documents.. what a total racket this business is..
so over a quarter of a million pounds of costs already.. for us to be really no further down the line... yeah i bet he needs more time to go through things!!!
and this is for a non operational company with supposedly very little assets !! i wonder how long it would take & how much the bill would be for a very active company , with loads of assets.. my guess is most likely pretty much exactly the same amount of time!
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Paxman II
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All this talk on here and yet nothing is NEW.
It depends on defining where the golden share is. The next move by any party will depend on that.
There is no surprise that Haskell has publicly stated a bid and it depends on where the golden share is determined to be. If it's with CCFC Ltd then his bid can be accepted or REJECTED. The details of his bid have not been given. Also anyone can bid...there may be others lining up once the golden share is confirmed to be with CCFC Ltd. SISU can bid themselves - also likely.
There are legal precedents and ramifications here and it is not a case for anyone to speculate based on personal feelings towards any party.
ACL might dislike SISU but if SISU get back control of CCFC Ltd and the golden share is there then ACL will need to talk to them again and that suggest square one. If the golden share is with Holdings then we are already at square one.
I'm sure the Hoffman/Elliott controlled bid on behalf of Haskell has been registered and they have sought tentative agreement with ACL/Higgs and the council but it means nothing unless the Golden Share is with CCFC Ltd. Moreover if Haskell's bid is just the 50% shareholding in ACL then there is still no sustainability for the football club in the medium to long term. I hope he has further agreements afoot to buy out ACL at least. I care about the football club and hope Haskell's bid is not on a promise of development around the land? A plan that includes income streams from the stadium is foremost in any bid surely?
What makes any of you think there is anything different from a couple of months ago?
It depends on defining where the golden share is. The next move by any party will depend on that.
There is no surprise that Haskell has publicly stated a bid and it depends on where the golden share is determined to be. If it's with CCFC Ltd then his bid can be accepted or REJECTED. The details of his bid have not been given. Also anyone can bid...there may be others lining up once the golden share is confirmed to be with CCFC Ltd. SISU can bid themselves - also likely.
There are legal precedents and ramifications here and it is not a case for anyone to speculate based on personal feelings towards any party.
ACL might dislike SISU but if SISU get back control of CCFC Ltd and the golden share is there then ACL will need to talk to them again and that suggest square one. If the golden share is with Holdings then we are already at square one.
I'm sure the Hoffman/Elliott controlled bid on behalf of Haskell has been registered and they have sought tentative agreement with ACL/Higgs and the council but it means nothing unless the Golden Share is with CCFC Ltd. Moreover if Haskell's bid is just the 50% shareholding in ACL then there is still no sustainability for the football club in the medium to long term. I hope he has further agreements afoot to buy out ACL at least. I care about the football club and hope Haskell's bid is not on a promise of development around the land? A plan that includes income streams from the stadium is foremost in any bid surely?
What makes any of you think there is anything different from a couple of months ago?
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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:thinking about:How about 69.7 MILLION:facepalm:
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Or maybe by next month 80 90 or whatever they want to make it
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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How about 300k of bills so far?
James Smith
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But what about Uncle Tim and his travelling football club idea, Roll up roll up see the stars, a different ground every other week all dates in Coventry cancelled. Why would CCFC/SISU need ACL?
thegameaintstraight
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Now as through this world I ramble,
I see lots of funny men,
Some rob you with a six gun,
And some with a fountain pen
(Woody Guthrie, Pretty Boy Floyd)
Paxman II
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Well James conventional wisdom is the answer.
To suggest they will move from the City and build a new stadium which will need a capacity of at least 20k costing upwards of 60/70m to build when they have never given thought to putting such investment in since taking over the club is pure folly. Even if someone built a stadium for 20m it's pure folly.
They have used every tactic available to them and will clearly continue to do so. If they spend 3 seasons playing at borrowed grounds then who on earth is going to replace the tenant at the Ricoh? A football stadium without a major sponsor or football club? Can ACL survive? Talk of ACL getting other activity in there is bravado from their side quite frankly. And the council - how will they look losing the former FA Cup winners from their own Town and stadium? Seriously think about it.
The brinkmanship will not end until a deal is done on the Ricoh and the sooner the council get a grip - yes the council the better.
To suggest they will move from the City and build a new stadium which will need a capacity of at least 20k costing upwards of 60/70m to build when they have never given thought to putting such investment in since taking over the club is pure folly. Even if someone built a stadium for 20m it's pure folly.
They have used every tactic available to them and will clearly continue to do so. If they spend 3 seasons playing at borrowed grounds then who on earth is going to replace the tenant at the Ricoh? A football stadium without a major sponsor or football club? Can ACL survive? Talk of ACL getting other activity in there is bravado from their side quite frankly. And the council - how will they look losing the former FA Cup winners from their own Town and stadium? Seriously think about it.
The brinkmanship will not end until a deal is done on the Ricoh and the sooner the council get a grip - yes the council the better.
James Smith
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Sorry, I missed off the smiley, I agree and I'd be very surprised if we are not playing at the Ricoh next season, unless (as mentioned in another thread) we are not playing at all which is a scary thought. ACL have already said that they have not locked out CCFC
www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/30884-PH4-has-bid/page7ACL said:
So the ball (pun not intended) is with whoever has the Golden Share and therefore the club.
Brighton Sky Blue
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This 'ACL' bloke you've quoted must be some kind of ACL plant.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The problem there is that at no point have ACL said 'We're fed up of having CCFC here' or 'We've booted the club out and don't want them back'-which, if it were their intention, they would've done long ago and wouldn't have bothered doing things like paying for upkeep of the pitch. All the statements have been 'We want them to stay', and their actions back this up.
