Haskell himself, one of the losing bidders, has said he has no problem with the legality of the process, so not sure this is an avenue that'd work.
We will probably end up with 10000 signing this petition.
Will that prove how wrong SISU are? or how wrong the 10000 are?
imp:
I'm not sure that petitions are designed to provide "proof".
However, if you want "proof of how wrong SISU are", I'd suggest you look at their actions and where they've got us.
Sadly, I imagine that more proof is on the way........
We will probably end up with 10000 signing this petition.
Will that prove how wrong SISU are? or how wrong the 10000 are?
imp:
Haskell himself, one of the losing bidders, has said he has no problem with the legality of the process, so not sure this is an avenue that'd work.
I have to admit that despite the groundswell of opinion to the contrary, I feel relatively comfortable with their actions.
I am more than happy that we are now free of the original lease which was un-affordable.
If you are saying by where they've got us - do you mean our league position?
I'd agree, I think joy and Tim should have both scored more goals last season!
As for more proof on the way...
maybe your crystal ball is cloudier than mine!....
I am optimistic that the way is now clear for new negotiations to begin over a new lease or even ownership of the Arena.
What if SISU offer £50m to buy the whole freehold?
imp:
Some news for you; we are NOT free of the original lease at all. Liquidation breaks it, admin does not. And you want these vultures to own the stadium? Have a look over your shoulder mate, you've clearly not not noticed that you're being fucked!
I have to admit that despite the groundswell of opinion to the contrary, I feel relatively comfortable with their actions.
I am more than happy that we are now free of the original lease which was un-affordable.
If you are saying by where they've got us - do you mean our league position?
I'd agree, I think joy and Tim should have both scored more goals last season!
As for more proof on the way...
maybe your crystal ball is cloudier than mine!....
I am optimistic that the way is now clear for new negotiations to begin over a new lease or even ownership of the Arena.
What if SISU offer £50m to buy the whole freehold?
imp:
I have to admit that despite the groundswell of opinion to the contrary, I feel relatively comfortable with their actions.
I am more than happy that we are now free of the original lease which was un-affordable.
If you are saying by where they've got us - do you mean our league position?
I'd agree, I think joy and Tim should have both scored more goals last season!
As for more proof on the way...
maybe your crystal ball is cloudier than mine!....
I am optimistic that the way is now clear for new negotiations to begin over a new lease or even ownership of the Arena.
What if SISU offer £50m to buy the whole freehold?
imp:
Sorry but I think you will find that the lease clauses determine whether the lease is broken by entering administration.
I have not seen the lease clauses but the actions of all concerned leave little doubt that the lease is ended already!
That was the whole object of the exercise!
imp:
Ah all is well.
I thought that our fortunes were in some way related to our ownership, but now I realise that as Joy and Tim aren't in the first team these things are unrelated.
Thankyou for clearing that up.
Sorry but I think you will find that the lease clauses determine whether the lease is broken by entering administration.
I have not seen the lease clauses but the actions of all concerned leave little doubt that the lease is ended already!
That was the whole object of the exercise!
imp:
I am just utterly speechless.
Sometimes I am not sure if you are just a WUM throwing stuff like this out there to see who will bite, or if you really mean it. I suspect you mean it. When we are non-league in a couple of years, I hope you will continue expressing the same point of view.
If you had to post an honest opinion instead of stirring things up, how high do you rate our chances of dropping into the fourth division of English football? What do you think are our chances of keeping Clark and Baker? The bookies and many knowledgeable people are predicting that what happened two seasons ago - you know, the season we got relegated - will happen again this season and we will be relegated for the second time in three years.
Me, I think under SISU we will be non-league in three years at the outside. Yes, you just go on making posts like this in support of morally bankrupt liars and cheats with no knowledge or respect of football or for this club.
Grego,
That is a very strange way of looking at it!
Again, you are entitled to your opinion, but we seem to see the same actions entirely differently. I see SISU as liars and cheats and you see them as saviours.
I see any penny given to them as sponsoring the further downfall of my club whereas you see every penny given to SISU as going towards saving our club.
I really cannot see any middle ground nor any point in trying to discuss matters sensibly because we are so far apart on all of this that there can be no understanding between us.
I will leave this with a simple statement:
You are entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion and the opinion apparently of the great majority of the members of this board and of supports generally you are terribly wrong.
Disagree with the last statement. Certainly the whipped up zealots (many who don't go anyway) but the average die hard fan just wants to see the team play and is utterly ambivelent to the politics.
Grego,
That is a very strange way of looking at it!
Again, you are entitled to your opinion, but we seem to see the same actions entirely differently. I see SISU as liars and cheats and you see them as saviours.
I see any penny given to them as sponsoring the further downfall of my club whereas you see every penny given to SISU as going towards saving our club.
I really cannot see any middle ground nor any point in trying to discuss matters sensibly because we are so far apart on all of this that there can be no understanding between us.
I will leave this with a simple statement:
You are entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion and the opinion apparently of the great majority of the members of this board and of supports generally you are terribly wrong.
Grendel, are you deliberately ignoring the various polls that have been conducted in which many thousands voted, are you ignoring the shows of hands at the so-called forums that showed 95% were against, are you ignoring Fisher's own words where he admitted that probably only 25% of fans were in favour of SISU's plans, are you deliberately ignoring the great majority of the posters on this forum who clearly against SISU/Fisher and their plans for our club?
Please grow up Grendel and stop defending an indefensible position. You are entitled to your opinion, but do not try and make out that your opinion is that of the majority of fans, for it most clearly is not!
Are you seriously suggesting if the club are at the Ricoh gates will significantly alter? If so you're in for a big disappointment. Look at the people on here who admit really they will still go - stupot, Otis, torch, gaz, SBNE, archer and they are just a handful. Fans who go anyway. Then look at objectors - you, dadgad, sky blue John, dongle all of whom are very reluctant to say when they ever go anyway.
Even valiant despite his moaning will end up going.
Grendel,
I can only judge by the comments that people post here and elsewhere, and based on those comments 75% or more will not support this club financially as long as SISU (or any of their group companies) are involved.
You also say "the Ricoh gates". Why are you assuming we will play at the Ricoh? Are you stating that you believe Fisher is a liar when he has publically stated again and again that we will never play at the Ricoh again?
If you know differently, please let us all know.
Thank you Swiss, at least we are remaining courteous and polite even if in disagreement.
I respect that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
but I would maintain that my observations are based on facts not opinion.
I do not accept that any of us are in a position to call SISU liars and cheats.
In reply to your remark about every penny specifically,
Not one penny is paid to SISU, ALL sales go to CCFC,
if SISU take any it is only a small proportion as profit (as is expected with any business)
ie at most 1p in every 5p!
imp:
But surely you accept 75% of people on here do not attend anyway. Do a poll of season ticket holders only and them see the result.
Fisher has said CCFC Ltd will not play at the Ricoh and that strictly speaking should be true as imam sure they are trading insolvently and so will be liquidated in accordance with British laws governing such matters.
Even valiant despite his moaning will end up going.
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