I guess having Hollywood owners is paying off fair play , that's some coup as I doubt he was short of offers .
Wages clearly the deciding factor, I wish them all the best and imagine it won't be long until they are back in the football league View attachment 21117
Why? They've had years of battling to get out of non league.Hope a team that doesn’t try to buy their way up beats them to it
Why? They've had years of battling to get out of non league.
Good luck to them.
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So what? If Cov had the massive fortune of having a rich benefactor, would you whinge on behalf of Barnsley etc?So have other clubs who won’t have a rich benefactor to hoover up talent on their behalf.
So what? If Cov had the massive fortune of having a rich benefactor, would you whinge on behalf of Barnsley etc?
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My point is embracing whoever wants to play tycoon at our clubs isn’t good for our game in the long run. It’s just anti competitive
It’s reality
Isn’t that the same mentality that saw Coventry rugby team get left behind when everyone else went pro?My point is embracing whoever wants to play tycoon at our clubs isn’t good for our game in the long run. It’s just anti competitive
Isn’t that the same mentality that saw Coventry rugby team get left behind when everyone else went pro?
Evolution effectively. Sport has always been dog eat dog.So turning the game into a tycoon competition is comparable to professionalisation?
Evolution effectively. Sport has always been dog eat dog.
Just the reality facing football.
Who?
I don’t get the issue with owners buying they way up the league. The current way is stacked in favour of those who are already at the top.
there are 92 football league teams, the day of the local millionaire bankrolling a club is gone. There isn’t enough of them around who are interested in football
They've also had some terrible owners who've helped dump them into non league in the first place, so if they now have some good owners, that's their payoff.Why? They've had years of battling to get out of non league.
Good luck to them.
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It's always happened anyway, we're only a league club because David Cooke gave us the cash, then we had Brandish, Robbins bankroll us... so where's the problem if an owner's genuinely keen to progress a club?I hate it when owners buy their way up the leagues but Wrexham are a league club that have had shite luck for ages due to bad owners. I don’t begrudge their fans a couple of promotions.
Would be like us being taken over in L2.
It's always happened anyway, we're only a league club because David Cooke gave us the cash, then we had Brandish, Robbins bankroll us... so where's the problem if an owner's genuinely keen to progress a club?
The issues are if they're dirty shysters looking to make a quick buck, or total incompetents, or fantasists... but how else are clubs supposed to progress than if someone gives them a bit of a helping hand?
It's always happened anyway, we're only a league club because David Cooke gave us the cash, then we had Brandish, Robbins bankroll us... so where's the problem if an owner's genuinely keen to progress a club?
The issues are if they're dirty shysters looking to make a quick buck, or total incompetents, or fantasists... but how else are clubs supposed to progress than if someone gives them a bit of a helping hand?
I wonder how many of my latter categories certain former board members fit into...We wouldn’t have a club anymore if Geoffrey Robinson didn’t try and get his money back
It still doesn’t sit right when a team that draws in crowds of 100 are launched into the EFL *cough* Salford *cough* when teams like Stockport a few miles down the road have to endure years of shit.It's always happened anyway, we're only a league club because David Cooke gave us the cash, then we had Brandish, Robbins bankroll us... so where's the problem if an owner's genuinely keen to progress a club?
The issues are if they're dirty shysters looking to make a quick buck, or total incompetents, or fantasists... but how else are clubs supposed to progress than if someone gives them a bit of a helping hand?
You do. The big clubs aren't intrinsically big, they were given a helping hand.It still doesn’t sit right when a team that draws in crowds of 100 are launched into the EFL *cough* Salford *cough* when teams like Stockport a few miles down the road have to endure years of shit.
I know it could be argued that you have to get them there to generate the support but still
I don’t disagree on the foundation days but now clubs are long standing community institutions and by bringing up these new or tiny clubs those with generations of loyal fans are consigned to the dustbin.You do. The big clubs aren't intrinsically big, they were given a helping hand.
Liverpool, formed by a wealthy benefactor taking his ball home with him after falling out with Everton.
Manchester United - changed from Newton Heath and bankrolled by benefactors. Once one of them died and the club nearly went bust, it was another white knight came along to save them.
Arsenal. Saved by a wealthy benefactor, who moved them across London.
Have to go back to the Corinthians for an ideal, and you could argue that they were basically bankrolling themselves...
Football's always been owned by people wih egos who want to improve their local team for whatever reason. Nowadays, the scales get bigger so it's not the local owners with big egos, of course...
The irony is Salford are owned by exactly those sort of people who used to bump clubs up. My only issue with Salford is the sneaking suspicion they were basically done to stop FC United in their tracks... but maybe that's a conspiracy theory too far.
You do. The big clubs aren't intrinsically big, they were given a helping hand.
Liverpool, formed by a wealthy benefactor taking his ball home with him after falling out with Everton.
Manchester United - changed from Newton Heath and bankrolled by benefactors. Once one of them died and the club nearly went bust, it was another white knight came along to save them.
Arsenal. Saved by a wealthy benefactor, who moved them across London.
Have to go back to the Corinthians for an ideal, and you could argue that they were basically bankrolling themselves...
Football's always been owned by people wih egos who want to improve their local team for whatever reason. Nowadays, the scales get bigger so it's not the local owners with big egos, of course...
The irony is Salford are owned by exactly those sort of people who used to bump clubs up. My only issue with Salford is the sneaking suspicion they were basically done to stop FC United in their tracks... but maybe that's a conspiracy theory too far.
I don’t disagree on the foundation days but now clubs are long standing community institutions and by bringing up these new or tiny clubs those with generations of loyal fans are consigned to the dustbin.
But in the years to come these tiny clubs may have become one with generations of loyal fans which all started thanks to this period in history where someone bankrolled them better than their rivals. Just like the big clubs of today.
Manchester United were saved and boosted in the 1930s, of course. Point being, there wouldn't be a big club without somebody helping them up, and in so doing Liverpool, for example, would confine Bootle to the dustbin (the big, traditional Liverpool club along with Everton). Blackburn, of course, got a league title because of a benefactor, Wolves got saved and ended up back in the top flight because of a benefactor.I don’t disagree on the foundation days but now clubs are long standing community institutions and by bringing up these new or tiny clubs those with generations of loyal fans are consigned to the dustbin.
It's always happened anyway, we're only a league club because David Cooke gave us the cash, then we had Brandish, Robbins bankroll us... so where's the problem if an owner's genuinely keen to progress a club?
The issues are if they're dirty shysters looking to make a quick buck, or total incompetents, or fantasists... but how else are clubs supposed to progress than if someone gives them a bit of a helping hand?
Just cut out the middle man and buy a proper club then. Which is exactly why I said I wasn’t bothered about Wrexham being bought out.But in the years to come these tiny clubs may have become one with generations of loyal fans which all started thanks to this period in history where someone bankrolled them better than their rivals. Just like the big clubs of today.
Just cut out the middle man and buy a proper club then. Which is exactly why I said I wasn’t bothered about Wrexham being bought out.
But in the years to come these tiny clubs may have become one with generations of loyal fans which all started thanks to this period in history where someone bankrolled them better than their rivals. Just like the big clubs of today.
Not really possible nowadays, you’d need billions to maintain it until the point where you’d built a massive club. Look at Wigan for example- they went from 4K to 20k+ under Dave Whelan but look at them now. You’d need a squad of Oligarchs to take someone like Wrexham to the Premier League and build up a huge fanbase over generations
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