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Transfer Rumour Panzo coming back? (6 Viewers)

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  • Start date May 30, 2023
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Matt smith

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  • Jun 5, 2023
  • #176
shmmeee said:
Such a no brainer IMO.
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Surely too good to be true

he’ll have a host of offers
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 5, 2023
  • #177
PVA said:
Thought the 20k was in reference to Panzo for a brief moment when I saw that post
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Same. Threads on here are a f*cking labyrinth.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 5, 2023
  • #178
mmttww said:
Same. Threads on here are a f*cking labyrinth.
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Even more confusing when the post below said it was a no brainer
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 5, 2023
  • #179
20k p/w for Hamer should be a no brainer. Starts creeping north of that then would need a little more thought.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 5, 2023
  • #180
Yeah if that really is what we need to do then fucking do it Doug. Absolute no brainer
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 5, 2023
  • #181
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
If that’s what he wants we’d be tinpot not to pay it

we’ve made 2/3m from an unexpected play off run- that’s a 3 year 20k a week contract
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A play off run Gis basically got on his own for that matter.
 
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Hincha

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  • Jun 6, 2023
  • #182
Negative comments about Panzo show recency bias.

In the 13 games before the World Cup break we kept 10 clean sheets with Panzo starting all of them. We only conceded to Burnley (best team in the league), Blackpool (because everyone had the shits), and Rotherham. During the break people were saying we should try to sign him.

Then came slow form for the whole team coming back, Wrexham, & injury - he never really got going but Doyle did. Needs consistent game time but with it is a very solid Championship signing.
 
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Seymour_East

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  • Jun 6, 2023
  • #183
Agree, the lad was left out after WC break so naturally lost form coming on as a sub. Coming on as a defensive substitute is always slightly more difficult. You usually don’t get any time to settle in
 
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EalingSB

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  • Jun 6, 2023
  • #184
shmmeee said:
Such a no brainer IMO.
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Surely he could get 2-3 x 20k per week in the Premier League? He is so good and would obviously love to keep him but I can't see it at this stage of his career. There's a EURO next summer and if he's in the PL he'll be far more likely to be on Koeman's radar.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 6, 2023
  • #185
EalingSB said:
Surely he could get 2-3 x 20k per week in the Premier League? He is so good and would obviously love to keep him but I can't see it at this stage of his career. There's a EURO next summer and if he's in the PL he'll be far more likely to be on Koeman's radar.
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With Hamer - there’s more of his ability in his position then there is a Gyokeres - yes he’s our best player, yes we’ll never replace him - but if you’re say West Ham. You could find a player of similar ability in Europe for a third of the price

same with Sheaf -he’s class, but you can pick up a Sheaf for far cheaper than we’d want
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 6, 2023
  • #186
EalingSB said:
Surely he could get 2-3 x 20k per week in the Premier League? He is so good and would obviously love to keep him but I can't see it at this stage of his career. There's a EURO next summer and if he's in the PL he'll be far more likely to be on Koeman's radar.
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Is he considered Dutch or Brazilian ?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 6, 2023
  • #187
slowpoke said:
Is he considered Dutch or Brazilian ?
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Dutch
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 6, 2023
  • #188
slowpoke said:
Is he considered Dutch or Brazilian ?
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Dutchzilian.
 

Otis

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  • Jun 6, 2023
  • #189
PVA said:
Dutchzilian.
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Butch.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 6, 2023
  • #190
Otis said:
Butch.
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Oh that's much better.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #191
The only issue with the £20k p/w is if other players have clauses in their contracts to match or percentage match the highest earner.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #192
Sick Boy said:
The only issue with the £20k p/w is if other players have clauses in their contracts to match or percentage match the highest earner.
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And we don't know what the wage structure can handle without us going bust, again
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #193
Sick Boy said:
The only issue with the £20k p/w is if other players have clauses in their contracts to match or percentage match the highest earner.
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That would be such a dumb clause to put in.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #194
shmmeee said:
That would be such a dumb clause to put in.
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Yep. For me it'd be a bit of a red flag and I'd cancel a transfer over such a request.

For me I'd have it more as a pay grade system, but with the first team being paid pretty much the same basic pay with a lot in bonuses based on how much they feature.

It's a team game, so clean sheet and goal bonuses should be paid to every player on the pitch at the time. Could make flair players just try that bit harder defensively and make attackers choose the best option to score than take it on themselves if they had a personal goal bonus.
 
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Greggs

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #195
As what?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #196
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yep. For me it'd be a bit of a red flag and I'd cancel a transfer over such a request.

For me I'd have it more as a pay grade system, but with the first team being paid pretty much the same basic pay with a lot in bonuses based on how much they feature.

It's a team game, so clean sheet and goal bonuses should be paid to every player on the pitch at the time. Could make flair players just try that bit harder defensively and make attackers choose the best option to score than take it on themselves if they had a personal goal bonus.
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Christ
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #197
Sick Boy said:
The only issue with the £20k p/w is if other players have clauses in their contracts to match or percentage match the highest earner.
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I often wonder if this is a real thing or just a football manager game addition.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #198
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yep. For me it'd be a bit of a red flag and I'd cancel a transfer over such a request.

For me I'd have it more as a pay grade system, but with the first team being paid pretty much the same basic pay with a lot in bonuses based on how much they feature.

It's a team game, so clean sheet and goal bonuses should be paid to every player on the pitch at the time. Could make flair players just try that bit harder defensively and make attackers choose the best option to score than take it on themselves if they had a personal goal bonus.
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Just imagine you’ve handed a four year deal with that clause then a billionaire comes in, and in two years we’re paying people £200k/wk while Johnny Championship sat in the bomb squad has the right to £150k/wk for another two years.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #199
shmmeee said:
Just imagine you’ve handed a four year deal with that clause then a billionaire comes in, and in two years we’re paying people £200k/wk while Johnny Championship sat in the bomb squad has the right to £150k/wk for another two years.
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Sounds daft but I think it happens, wasn’t Paul Pogba on some deal like that at Man Utd.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #200
skyblu3sk said:
I often wonder if this is a real thing or just a football manager game addition.
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At times during the dark days I’d lose touch of what was and wasn’t reality when it came to FM. I imagine it’s probably an actual clause though - not sure we’d actually use it though.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #201
Grendel said:
Christ
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?
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #202
Sick Boy said:
At times during the dark days I’d lose touch of what was and wasn’t reality when it came to FM. I imagine it’s probably an actual clause though - not sure we’d actually use it though.
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I'm surprised my now wife stuck with me through some if my more addictive play always seemed an odd clause and I'd assumed it was there to make the game harder than a real one but who knows!
 

higgs

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #203
I suppose we have to have a wage structure and stick to it so of the demands are too him it only means one thing bye bye vik bye bye hamer

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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #204
slowpoke said:
Sounds daft but I think it happens, wasn’t Paul Pogba on some deal like that at Man Utd.
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Think it happens more at the top. Even if there aren't official clauses though it can cause unrest.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #205
If anyone came to me and moaned at Gus on £20k I’d tell them to come back when they’re bossing games single handed, and in double figures for goals and assists, not to mention a fans favourite. There’s no one close in terms of value to the club tbh. Even Vik.
 
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Matt smith

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #206
shmmeee said:
If anyone came to me and moaned at Gus on £20k I’d tell them to come back when they’re bossing games single handed, and in double figures for goals and assists, not to mention a fans favourite. There’s no one close in terms of value to the club tbh. Even Vik.
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Amen

11 goals 10 assists from centre mid

absolute joke
 

Skybluedownunder

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #207
Matt smith said:
Amen

11 goals 10 assists from centre mid

absolute joke
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Goals in both semi final and the final to keep us in it


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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #208
shmmeee said:
That would be such a dumb clause to put in.
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Far from unusual though.


Iirc McFadz was alleged to have had a sense of humour failure when the club took an option to extend his contract for a year last summer without matching the wages of others

In contrast his new contract this year was sorted v early on.
 

baldy

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  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #209
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Yep. For me it'd be a bit of a red flag and I'd cancel a transfer over such a request.

For me I'd have it more as a pay grade system, but with the first team being paid pretty much the same basic pay with a lot in bonuses based on how much they feature.

It's a team game, so clean sheet and goal bonuses should be paid to every player on the pitch at the time. Could make flair players just try that bit harder defensively and make attackers choose the best option to score than take it on themselves if they had a personal goal bonus.
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I think you really are playing Football Manager whilst browsing on here aren’t you?
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 7, 2023
  • #210
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Far from unusual though.


Iirc McFadz was alleged to have had a sense of humour failure when the club took an option to extend his contract for a year last summer without matching the wages of others

In contrast his new contract this year was sorted v early on.
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How‘d you know that about Fadz being pissed off first time round?
 
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