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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Today at 12:44 AM
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We have Hagi who looks so disinterested most of the time IMO lazy .His marking of player when out of possession leaves a lot to be desired as for being onside he doesn't seem to know rhe meaning.Why i don't know? As he has a good turn of speed when he decides to use it.Falls down far to easy WE don't get penalties
Simms has been in the game almost 10 years and still cannot trap a ball (let Tats give him lessons) .Cannot hold a ball up for oncoming players because of this.
This is one for the statisticians among you might help me out on . They both don't win enough headers when we are on the attack again causing them to breakdown
 

hinckley cov

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  • Today at 1:29 AM
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thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
We have Hagi who looks so disinterested most of the time IMO lazy .His marking of player when out of possession leaves a lot to be desired as for being onside he doesn't seem to know rhe meaning.Why i don't know? As he has a good turn of speed when he decides to use it.Falls down far to easy WE don't get penalties
Simms has been in the game almost 10 years and still cannot trap a ball (let Tats give him lessons) .Cannot hold a ball up for oncoming players because of this.
This is one for the statisticians among you might help me out on . They both don't win enough headers when we are on the attack again causing them to breakdown
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It’s no surprise Simms is off form and looking disinterested as when he was in form and scoring goals Lampard dropped him for that useless lazy sod wright , great man management, how not to keep a striker happy.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Today at 1:35 AM
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hinckley cov said:
It’s no surprise Simms is off form and looking disinterested as when he was in form and scoring goals Lampard dropped him for that useless lazy sod wright , great man management, how not to keep a striker happy.
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Never complained about Simms being off form and disinterested in the post I commented on him not being able trap and hold up a ball.
 

Gint11

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  • Today at 8:20 AM
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Wright hasn’t been in form for months now. It’s not working.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Today at 8:31 AM
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Gint11 said:
Wright hasn’t been in form for months now. It’s not working.
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Played well the previous 2 home games, I thought. Showed a lot more aggression than previously. Think everyone is looking for a stick to beat individuals out of frustration. If we'd won by a couple (which we probably should have) then there wouldn't be this shed loads of posts.
 
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Gint11

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  • Today at 8:38 AM
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Played well the previous 2 home games, I thought. Showed a lot more aggression than previously. Think everyone is looking for a stick to beat individuals out of frustration. If we'd won by a couple (which we probably should have) then there wouldn't be this shed loads of posts.
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I get your point and I agree on the aggression but isn’t that a basic as a striker? Hes a big lad, he should be. I don’t subscribe to comments he doesn’t care or anything but he’s there to score goals and he isn’t. If you’re not scoring, contribute, he isn’t. If you can’t contribute, hold up the ball to allow the team up, he’s not.

The problem then is, FL then swaps and changes with Simms but Simms is either not getting on or gets 10-15 minutes, it’s not enough to get in form.

I have said Lamps has to stop swapping and changing between them so in a way, I’m glad he kept with Wright yesterday in the main but we need him back to his best. How do we make that happen?
 

Otis

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  • Today at 8:40 AM
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Played well the previous 2 home games, I thought. Showed a lot more aggression than previously. Think everyone is looking for a stick to beat individuals out of frustration. If we'd won by a couple (which we probably should have) then there wouldn't be this shed loads of posts.
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Yeah, he was looking much better wasn't he and he started off yesterday with that fabulous run and he should have bloody well scored too. Can't believe he didn't even hit the target there.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Today at 8:41 AM
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Played well the previous 2 home games, I thought. Showed a lot more aggression than previously. Think everyone is looking for a stick to beat individuals out of frustration. If we'd won by a couple (which we probably should have) then there wouldn't be this shed loads of posts.
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He did play well previous 2 home games, which made it 2 good performances in 3 months.

No ones looking for sticks to beat individuals, the facts about their performances are there for everyone to see and people are commenting on it.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Today at 8:44 AM
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Played well the previous 2 home games, I thought. Showed a lot more aggression than previously. Think everyone is looking for a stick to beat individuals out of frustration. If we'd won by a couple (which we probably should have) then there wouldn't be this shed loads of posts.
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Wright's always been a scapegoat.

It's because he's not a blood-and-thunder striker, but one who relies more on stealth.

He does seem to have confidence issues, though, and has always had periods of disappearing within himself. But accusations of laziness or being uninterested are well wide of the mark.
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Today at 8:51 AM
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I think Wright seems disinterested because he's probably a disinterested boring individual in general but not a bad player now and again. Simms is interested but just not very good.
 
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Shannerz

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  • Today at 9:01 AM
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And everyone means they think he is 'uninterested'.

The referee is disinterested.
 
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Rodders1

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  • Today at 9:07 AM
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Hindsight a wonderful thing. But wonder if Wright inside left and Simms up top yesterday was the way to go as per the Robbins years - opportunity to try it with EMC out.
 
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jto123

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  • Today at 9:08 AM
  • #13
I think if they played together, they would be a real threat
 
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Boicey

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  • Today at 9:08 AM
  • #14
If only Robins would have spent the Gok and Hamer windfall money on 1 quality striker and 1 quality central defender ...
It's never been resolved. Just hope we can recover most of that money.
 

Boicey

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  • Today at 9:09 AM
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jto123 said:
I think if they played together, they would be a real threat
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They have never played well together. When they have it's been keystone cops stuff.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Today at 9:11 AM
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Boicey said:
They have never played well together. When they have it's been keystone cops stuff.
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I can't even remember when they last played together?
 

shepardo01

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  • Today at 9:14 AM
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Both too soft
Lack actual 'instinct' and desire to score/sniff out a goal or get on the end of a loose ball.
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Today at 9:15 AM
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In times like this you need that battling clever championship striker who hustles CBs, brings others into play and is just a nuisance. We’ve got some of the loveliest flower making strikers in the league. I wish we had a Kieffer Moore or Carlton Morris type. Something completely different.
 
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SeshMouseSkyBlue

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  • Today at 9:19 AM
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Played well the previous 2 home games, I thought. Showed a lot more aggression than previously. Think everyone is looking for a stick to beat individuals out of frustration. If we'd won by a couple (which we probably should have) then there wouldn't be this shed loads of posts.
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There’s the problem ‘we should have’, we didn’t though, and that is down to in part to Wright not being able to hit the target from 6-10yards out! Time and time again this happens, you can see why frustration is finally starting to set in!
 
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coop

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  • Today at 9:22 AM
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Both of our strikers are shit.How we have spent this long on top of the league with poor strikers is surprising, we won't be in the top two in a few weeks DK should of spent some cash in the window to get us over the line.
 
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skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Today at 9:23 AM
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Our attacking game is all about wide players getting crosses into the box. The problem is none of our strikers are proficient at heading the ball. Sakamoto heads the ball in the box more times than Wright, Simms and Asante.
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Today at 10:48 AM
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Tats is half the size of Simms and yet he shows more aggression.Watch Harland in a 50/50 challenge he very rarely loses. I wouldn't back Simms in a 60/40. I don't want our players to be "Bobby Gould's" but I do want them to show a bit more intent.It's only hard work that will get us out of this decline.
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Today at 11:47 AM
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thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
We have Hagi who looks so disinterested most of the time IMO lazy .His marking of player when out of possession leaves a lot to be desired as for being onside he doesn't seem to know rhe meaning.Why i don't know? As he has a good turn of speed when he decides to use it.Falls down far to easy WE don't get penalties
Simms has been in the game almost 10 years and still cannot trap a ball (let Tats give him lessons) .Cannot hold a ball up for oncoming players because of this.
This is one for the statisticians among you might help me out on . They both don't win enough headers when we are on the attack again causing them to breakdown
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Haji was ok yesterday..what planet you on. He did most things Wright and it just didnt go for him yesterday.

Not blaming him yesterday. All strikers miss goals. Gyokores misses some sitters and still does..it happens.

A goal shoukd have come from other means...hes not only player on pitch who could have scored.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Today at 11:54 AM
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Our strikers are generally fine. Both have areas that could be improved but in the championship they are both ok. Our goals score column suggests that end of the pitch is not really the issue
 
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wingy

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  • Today at 12:09 PM
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Gint11 said:
I get your point and I agree on the aggression but isn’t that a basic as a striker? Hes a big lad, he should be. I don’t subscribe to comments he doesn’t care or anything but he’s there to score goals and he isn’t. If you’re not scoring, contribute, he isn’t. If you can’t contribute, hold up the ball to allow the team up, he’s not.

The problem then is, FL then swaps and changes with Simms but Simms is either not getting on or gets 10-15 minutes, it’s not enough to get in form.

I have said Lamps has to stop swapping and changing between them so in a way, I’m glad he kept with Wright yesterday in the main but we need him back to his best. How do we make that happen?
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Give him more money?
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Today at 12:34 PM
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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Played well the previous 2 home games, I thought. Showed a lot more aggression than previously. Think everyone is looking for a stick to beat individuals out of frustration. If we'd won by a couple (which we probably should have) then there wouldn't be this shed loads of posts.
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2 goals, 18 starts.
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Today at 12:35 PM
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Londonccfcfan said:
Haji was ok yesterday..what planet you on. He did most things Wright and it just didnt go for him yesterday.

Not blaming him yesterday. All strikers miss goals. Gyokores misses some sitters and still does..it happens.

A goal shoukd have come from other means...hes not only player on pitch who could have scored.
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2 goals, 18 starts.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Today at 12:37 PM
  • #28
Our 2 'strikers' struggle to score against average/poor teams so if we should happen to fluff promotion somehow they wouldn't have a chance against prem defenders
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Today at 12:37 PM
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Londonccfcfan said:
Haji was ok yesterday..what planet you on. He did most things Wright and it just didnt go for him yesterday.

Not blaming him yesterday. All strikers miss goals. Gyokores misses some sitters and still does..it happens.

A goal shoukd have come from other means...hes not only player on pitch who could have scored.
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2 goals, 18 starts
thekidfromstrettoncamp said:
Tats is half the size of Simms and yet he shows more aggression.Watch Harland in a 50/50 challenge he very rarely loses. I wouldn't back Simms in a 60/40. I don't want our players to be "Bobby Gould's" but I do want them to show a bit more intent.It's only hard work that will get us out of this decline.
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Simms is your scapegoat. It is bizarre. If I could choose any players. I wouldn't pick him, or Wright. However Simms has scored 10, in 13. Wright 2 in 17 or 18. This is on Frank. Drop in form player.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Today at 12:37 PM
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Skyblueabo1111 said:
2 goals, 18 starts.
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Does that mean 4 goals in 36 now?
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Today at 12:38 PM
  • #31
Skyblueabo1111 said:
2 goals, 18 starts

Simms is your scapegoat. It is bizarre. If I could choose any players. I wouldn't pick him, or Wright. However Simms has scored 10, in 13. Wright 2 in 17 or 18. This is on Frank. Drop in form player.
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Robins dropped him when he was scoring too
 
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Gint11

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  • Today at 12:38 PM
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wingy said:
Give him more money?
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They have to figure out what motivates him and the team play to his strengths
 
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Skyblueabo1111

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  • Today at 12:39 PM
  • #33
stevefloyd said:
Does that mean 4 goals in 36 now?
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No idea Steve, if you are telling me that, I have no reason to disbelieve. He was shite in 2 games, against Sunderland, where Simms didn't get one minute..
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Today at 12:40 PM
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Skyblueabo1111 said:
No idea Steve, if you are telling me that, I have no reason to disbelieve. He was shite in 2 games, against Sunderland, where Simms didn't get one minute..
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That's was utterly baffling not to bring Simms on in the play off games.
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Today at 2:29 PM
  • #35
Skyblue Bangkok said:
That's was utterly baffling not to bring Simms on in the play off games.
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Not saying he shouldn't have brought Simms on at some point but I'm guessing in respect of the 2nd leg FL had penalties in the back of his mind, and would have seen Wright as a better option in that scenario than Simms.

In retrospect though when Eccles was forced off right at the end when we were facing that last minute corner, it might have been a better idea to bring on Simms rather than Allen.
 
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