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Orange order march in Coventry right now (3 Viewers)

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #1
good thing?
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #2
is theresa at the front?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #3
Friends in England, May is now forming a government with the help of the Democratic Unionist Party (the 'democratic' bit of the name is a hilarious joke - those guys). You may not be familiar with these fellows, so as a public service, let me introduce you to them as we muddle through this historic day...

By way of general introduction, the DUP are anti-equal marriage, anti-choice and pro-Brexit. The party was founded by Ian Paisley Snr and has a strong Presbyterian backbone (and we know how much fun those guys are!). But let's meet some of the individuals...

Jeffrey Donaldson - worked as constituency agent for Enoch Powell. I don't think I need to say anything else.

Sammy "I don't care if [gays] are ratepayers. As far as I am concerned they are perverts" Wilson. Doesn't believe in man made climate change. Basically, he is our very own Trump. But deeper orange. He described women who breastfed in the House of Commons as exhibitionists.

Gregory Campbell thinks he is hilarious in mocking the Irish language in a sort of 1970s sitcom style. OK, probably most of you won't give a shite about that, but it annoyed me!

Emma Pengelly. She opposes the extension of the 1967 Act to NI and supports the criminalisation of women who seek terminations in NI. She is a treat.

David Simpson. A creationist. Ffs. This twat even used the tired "Adam and Steve" quote in the House of Commons during the debate on equal marriage (which he voted against, of course).

Ian Paisley Jr. He doesn't hate gay people, just what they do.

Paul Girvan. A chap more than happy to allow the Irish flag to be burnt atop bonfires on the inglorious 11th. He is also a big fan on conscience clauses, ie, statutory protection for discrimination on religious grounds.

Jim Shannon. The Stella Artois of the gang. In 2015, Jim claimed £205,798 in expenses. Excluding travel. Apparently, he is just really busy. Also thought that the marriage equality bill (as was) might lead to a "chilling effect on free speech". He is concerned to protect religious freedom, which in and of itself is not an issue, but what the DUP actually wants for religious rights to prevail over others.

I think that probably gives you a flavour. As of 12.30pm today, these people have a place at the table on the decisions affecting your lives. Glad you are finally joining us!
 
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Otis

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #4
clint van damme said:
is theresa at the front?
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Nope, someone is propping her up at the back.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #5
I'm pretty horrified by it to be fair
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #6
Sky Blue Pete said:
Friends in England, May is now forming a government with the help of the Democratic Unionist Party (the 'democratic' bit of the name is a hilarious joke - those guys). You may not be familiar with these fellows, so as a public service, let me introduce you to them as we muddle through this historic day...

By way of general introduction, the DUP are anti-equal marriage, anti-choice and pro-Brexit. The party was founded by Ian Paisley Snr and has a strong Presbyterian backbone (and we know how much fun those guys are!). But let's meet some of the individuals...

Jeffrey Donaldson - worked as constituency agent for Enoch Powell. I don't think I need to say anything else.

Sammy "I don't care if [gays] are ratepayers. As far as I am concerned they are perverts" Wilson. Doesn't believe in man made climate change. Basically, he is our very own Trump. But deeper orange. He described women who breastfed in the House of Commons as exhibitionists.

Gregory Campbell thinks he is hilarious in mocking the Irish language in a sort of 1970s sitcom style. OK, probably most of you won't give a shite about that, but it annoyed me!

Emma Pengelly. She opposes the extension of the 1967 Act to NI and supports the criminalisation of women who seek terminations in NI. She is a treat.

David Simpson. A creationist. Ffs. This twat even used the tired "Adam and Steve" quote in the House of Commons during the debate on equal marriage (which he voted against, of course).

Ian Paisley Jr. He doesn't hate gay people, just what they do.

Paul Girvan. A chap more than happy to allow the Irish flag to be burnt atop bonfires on the inglorious 11th. He is also a big fan on conscience clauses, ie, statutory protection for discrimination on religious grounds.

Jim Shannon. The Stella Artois of the gang. In 2015, Jim claimed £205,798 in expenses. Excluding travel. Apparently, he is just really busy. Also thought that the marriage equality bill (as was) might lead to a "chilling effect on free speech". He is concerned to protect religious freedom, which in and of itself is not an issue, but what the DUP actually wants for religious rights to prevail over others.

I think that probably gives you a flavour. As of 12.30pm today, these people have a place at the table on the decisions affecting your lives. Glad you are finally joining us!
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They're a bunch of cunts Pete, but chill out and have a beer, ignore them, and let march round in their ill fitting polyester to their hearts content.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #7
Why are they marching in Coventry?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #8
Good question and they should be allowed to but not to give out abuse to those who ask them why
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #9
What's the difference between letting these mad fundamentalists march round and letting Abu Hamsa have a rally.
 
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Nick

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #10
Ay? Where and what's going down?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #11
Liquid Gold said:
What's the difference between letting these mad fundamentalists march round and letting Abu Hamsa have a rally.
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Nothing
 

Astute

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #12
I hate oranges. Very partial to bananas though.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #13
Liquid Gold said:
What's the difference between letting these mad fundamentalists march round and letting Abu Hamsa have a rally.
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They're marching in celebration of a British victory in war. What does Abu Hamsa have a rally for?
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #14
What victory? What war. Oh yes one so long ago I wonder how much they know of battle of the Boyne, William of orange or why James II became so unpopular.


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Grendel

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  • Jun 10, 2017
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Liquid Gold said:
What's the difference between letting these mad fundamentalists march round and letting Abu Hamsa have a rally.
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What a moronic thing to say. Go and say that to the victims of the latest atrocity you ignorant twat.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #16
I guess it's as palatable as all those ex-pats in Germany having parades on VE day?

Ultimately it's motive is probably to rub salt into someone else's wounds

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Sick Boy

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  • Jun 10, 2017
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Grendel said:
What a moronic thing to say. Go and say that to the victims of the latest atrocity you ignorant twat.
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You're really get into this DUP thing, I see.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #18
Sick Boy said:
You're really get into this DUP thing, I see.
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You do realise that the Labour Party allied themselves to the UDP in the 70's to keep themselves in power? As far as I'm aware they also haven't ever encouraging terrorist acts in England.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #19
Liquid Gold said:
What's the difference between letting these mad fund
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Grendel said:
You do realise that the Labour Party allied themselves to the UDP in the 70's to keep themselves in power? As far as I'm aware they also haven't ever encouraging terrorist acts in England.
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correct. But can't understand why you're so obsessed with the 70s and 80s and have so little regard for what's going on now.

And they will be propping up a UK government, and they have definitely supported terrorist acts on UK soil.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 10, 2017
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clint van damme said:
correct. But can't understand why you're so obsessed with the 70s and 80s and have so little regard for what's going on now.

And they will be propping up a UK government, and they have definitely supported terrorist acts on UK soil.
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I said England and it depends on definition of terrorism.

I'm not obsessed at all but I suspect that these alliance would be justified if it was to secure the "correct" result.

Pete made some comment that some Ulster unionist was associated with Enoch Powell. That's odd as mr Corbyns inspiration Anthony Wedgewood Benn and Michael Foot considered Enoch Powell a friend and ally
 
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Astute

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  • Jun 10, 2017
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clint van damme said:
and they have definitely supported terrorist acts on UK soil.
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Which thread are we on now? I was Abbott to ask, but.....
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #22
Astute said:
Which thread are we on now? I was Abbott to ask, but.....
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it smacks of English arrogance to only talk of terrorism only commited on English soil, this is a wider issue.
It suggests a certain amount of ambivalence towards other parts of the UK, though I'm sure that wasn't Grendels intention.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 10, 2017
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clint van damme said:
it smacks of English arrogance to only talk of terrorism only commited on English soil, this is a wider issue.
It suggests a certain amount of ambivalence towards other parts of the UK, though I'm sure that wasn't Grendels intention.
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At the height of such "terrorism" the people who inspired mr Corbyn backed them to the hilt
 
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Monners

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #24
It's ok as the UDA and UVF only killed Catholics(oh yeah and each other). The hypocrisy, ignorance and arrogance in this country is unreal. Still, as long as the British establishment prevails eh.
 
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Astute

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  • Jun 10, 2017
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clint van damme said:
it smacks of English arrogance to only talk of terrorism only commited on English soil, this is a wider issue.
It suggests a certain amount of ambivalence towards other parts of the UK, though I'm sure that wasn't Grendels intention.
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And a very British thing to find fault with what you disagree with or not involved with. Otherwise fair game.
 
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Monners

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #26
Grendel said:
At the height of such "terrorism" the people who inspired mr Corbyn backed them to the hilt
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You are a c**t - fuck off
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #27
Grendel said:
At the height of such "terrorism" the people who inspired mr Corbyn backed them to the hilt
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So you are happy for our Gov't to be oh so closely allied to these people?

Given recent events & recent threads & comments about supporting Terrorists...these people aren't just in out Parliament - they can now easily have a disproportionate influence on policy


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Grendel

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #28
Surely for every terrorist their is a freedom fighter?

So isn't it commendable the Government is supporting freedom fighters?
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #29
SkyblueBazza said:
So you are happy for our Gov't to be oh so closely allied to these people?

Given recent events & recent threads & comments about supporting Terrorists...these people aren't just in out Parliament - they can now easily have a disproportionate influence on policy


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Freedom fighters I guess.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 10, 2017
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Astute said:
And a very British thing to find fault with what you disagree with or not involved with. Otherwise fair game.
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I have no idea what you're on about.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #31
Grendel said:
Surely for every terrorist their is a freedom fighter?

So isn't it commendable the Government is supporting freedom fighters?
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HAHA! You're definitely at it!
 

Astute

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  • Jun 10, 2017
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Grendel said:
I said England and it depends on definition of terrorism.

I'm not obsessed at all but I suspect that these alliance would be justified if it was to secure the "correct" result.

Pete made some comment that some Ulster unionist was associated with Enoch Powell. That's odd as mr Corbyns inspiration Anthony Wedgewood Benn and Michael Foot considered Enoch Powell a friend and ally
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Unblocked messages to see what Monners was saying. Not surprised in the slightest.

Terrorism is wrong. Full stop. Innocent people get maimed and murdered. I don't give a fuck about excuses. Because there isn't any. Bliar was wrong to send the troops in. But murdering innocent people on either side doesn't make anything right.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #33
Astute said:
Unblocked messages to see what Monners was saying. Not surprised in the slightest.

Terrorism is wrong. Full stop. Innocent people get maimed and murdered. I don't give a fuck about excuses. Because there isn't any. Bliar was wrong to send the troops in. But murdering innocent people on either side doesn't make anything right.
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unblocked messages? From who? I've had a few so forgive me for being a bit slow on the uptake.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 10, 2017
  • #34
clint van damme said:
unblocked messages? From who? I've had a few so forgive me for being a bit slow on the uptake.
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Blocked Grendel ages ago. Had enough after several years of his bullshit. Bit it doesn't even show what people quote from him. You are left without a clue when someone keeps quoting him.
 

clint van damme

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  • Jun 10, 2017
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Astute said:
Blocked Grendel ages ago. Had enough after several years of his bullshit. Bit it doesn't even show what people quote from him. You are left without a clue when someone keeps quoting him.
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why would anyone block people? Can't get my head round that. Unless they're blocking me, totally understandable!
 
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