OK fellow footy pollsters.... (6 Viewers)
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bradwellskyblues
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i am on the side of ccfc sadly i am not sure who that is anymore.
I do worry about those who want to rush to admin,you may get more than you bargain for
I do worry about those who want to rush to admin,you may get more than you bargain for
Otis
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I simply do not want administration.
I sincerely hope something happens this week that will keep us going and avoid any penalty and that it can all be sorted out in the Summer.
For me, the rent is far too high. The club should own the ground. The club should receive the income from food and beverages on match days.
Do think though that the rent arrears should be paid and that it should never have got to this state of affairs.
It was clear to myself and others that the Christmas before last we were certainties for relegation. At that point the alarm bells should have rang loud and clear.
I'm only on the side of CCFC on this. It's just been one big sorry mess.
I sincerely hope something happens this week that will keep us going and avoid any penalty and that it can all be sorted out in the Summer.
For me, the rent is far too high. The club should own the ground. The club should receive the income from food and beverages on match days.
Do think though that the rent arrears should be paid and that it should never have got to this state of affairs.
It was clear to myself and others that the Christmas before last we were certainties for relegation. At that point the alarm bells should have rang loud and clear.
I'm only on the side of CCFC on this. It's just been one big sorry mess.
Jackoskyblue
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I'm coventry city FOOTBALL CLUB so I've gone with neither. Both are in the wrong but I want the best for the football club not for ACL or SISU
I think you've shown your position in the poll.
I don't agree with everything that is said on this forum but, I don't believe anybody is anti CCFC - we just have different views on the best way of supporting and progressing ccfc.
For me this poll should have been between ACL and SISU and not coloured by the introduction of the football club.
I don't agree with everything that is said on this forum but, I don't believe anybody is anti CCFC - we just have different views on the best way of supporting and progressing ccfc.
For me this poll should have been between ACL and SISU and not coloured by the introduction of the football club.
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Harry Grout
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Watching this great debate in general, I can't separate fact from fiction by either of the two sides, they both seem to be enjoying this debacle and promoting their own agendas. However from a footballing perspective alone, I would vote for the only option that would give CCFC the chance of promotion to the Championship next season, i.e. the CCFC (SISU) option.
Jackoskyblue
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But the label of Ccfc (Sisu) in my opinion is wrong, as Sisu have no care for the club or us fans.
If I didn't want to sit on the fence like I did I think id have to go ACL just down to the fact Sisu said they want to liquidate us while ACL just administration. Lesser of two evils for me, I also believe that ACL have a potential buyer lined up.
But could be yet more smoke and mirrors so ill go back to sitting on the fence
If I didn't want to sit on the fence like I did I think id have to go ACL just down to the fact Sisu said they want to liquidate us while ACL just administration. Lesser of two evils for me, I also believe that ACL have a potential buyer lined up.
But could be yet more smoke and mirrors so ill go back to sitting on the fence
torchomatic
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ACL have also threatened liquidation. They threatened it some time ago.
If I didn't want to sit on the fence like I did I think id have to go ACL just down to the fact Sisu said they want to liquidate us while ACL just administration. Lesser of two evils for me, I also believe that ACL have a potential buyer lined up.
But could be yet more smoke and mirrors so ill go back to sitting on the fence
TheHellion
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I support neither SISU, nor ACL. I support the entity which is caught up in the middle of all of this, that of course is Coventry City Football Club.
Jackoskyblue
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But they haven't gone through with that so looks like empty words, would you put it against SISU to actually liquidate us ? Honest question or do you think that's also empty words ?
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Harry Grout
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But the label of Ccfc (Sisu) in my opinion is wrong, as Sisu have no care for the club or us fans.
If I didn't want to sit on the fence like I did I think id have to go ACL just down to the fact Sisu said they want to liquidate us while ACL just administration. Lesser of two evils for me, I also believe that ACL have a potential buyer lined up.
But could be yet more smoke and mirrors so ill go back to sitting on the fence
Agree with everything you say Jacko, apart from sharing your belief in the potential buyer lined up.
The non-administration route gives us the only chance of our first promotion in 46 years. Taking the admin route, points deduction and even new owners next season doesn't provide any guarantee of promotion or even the play offs.
torchomatic
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And neither have SISU, unless I've been in a coma and SISU actuallly DID liquidate us. If so, then I apologise.
As neither side has liquidated you can't say one is better than the other or the words are more hollow on one side than the other. You obviously are on the side of ACL - or against SISU, whichever - so naturally you say ACL haven't gone through with it, but SISU would. Even though they haven't. So the upshot, to me, if they're as bad as each other.
As neither side has liquidated you can't say one is better than the other or the words are more hollow on one side than the other. You obviously are on the side of ACL - or against SISU, whichever - so naturally you say ACL haven't gone through with it, but SISU would. Even though they haven't. So the upshot, to me, if they're as bad as each other.
ohitsaidwalker king power
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Can I suggest another classification.
O-Those who wish this whole sorry mess was sorted to the benefit of the FOOTBALL CLUB and we could argue about football matters on this a football forum.
O-Those who wish this whole sorry mess was sorted to the benefit of the FOOTBALL CLUB and we could argue about football matters on this a football forum.
Jackoskyblue
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Don't think your getting what I'm saying thorcho mate, saying that I would not put it past them to liquidate us given their past record, not saying they have or that they will even im just saying I wouldn't trust them. While as ACL yes they threatened it but have gone for admin instead.
Yes I agree there both as bad and no as stated earlier I'm not on either side at all don't trust either side don't want to trust them either
Danceswithhorses
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IHMO, it's a very divisive poll, as most will answer that they love CCFC, for fear of being labelled disloyal if they don't.
I really cant see why it has to be public, unless the intent was to stir things up and split fans even more than they are now...is that really an intelligent thing to do ?
We all love CCFC, we just disagree on how the club is being run.
I really cant see why it has to be public, unless the intent was to stir things up and split fans even more than they are now...is that really an intelligent thing to do ?
We all love CCFC, we just disagree on how the club is being run.
sky blue john
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Have i missed something when did acl threaten to liquidate ccfc ?
dongonzalos
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I see ACL as a way to a better CCCF
One that can eventually own its own stadium.
One that can eventually own its own stadium.
torchomatic
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Yes, looked like you missed something:
The Board of ACL has already issued a Statutory Demand for payment, the deadline for which has long since passed, and is now looking at its legal options. These legal options include petitioning the courts to grant an order to wind up CCFC and starting off the process of placing the Club into compulsory liquidation.
Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...gs-charity-view-92746-32606542/#ixzz2NvmzgyHB
The Board of ACL has already issued a Statutory Demand for payment, the deadline for which has long since passed, and is now looking at its legal options. These legal options include petitioning the courts to grant an order to wind up CCFC and starting off the process of placing the Club into compulsory liquidation.
Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/ne...gs-charity-view-92746-32606542/#ixzz2NvmzgyHB
Bluegloucester
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The keyword in the CET quote is option, ACL have not exercised the option to wind up, the have applied for administration.
Flying Fokker
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But that is not the intention. They staved off the prospect of SISU liquidating us sooner. The ultimate outcome could be liquidation but SISU were threatening it anyway. If nothing else it will buy us time.
Grendel
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Lame. Likelihood is they see potential buyers to escape the mess. To hell with the consequences for the football club.
torchomatic
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And neither did SISU did they? It was an option for SISU and it was an option for ACL. So why is one more acceptable to you and FF?
Jackoskyblue
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And neither did SISU did they? It was an option for SISU and it was an option for ACL. So why is one more acceptable to you and FF?
But the point is ACL have gone for a different option, Sisu haven't played their cards yet in my opinion. It's not that either are better than the other it's that Sisu haven't showed their hand and no one knows what it will be
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Jack Griffin
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The next paragraph starts "Nobody wants this to be the outcome", so what they said was they did not want to do it, but it remains a possibility.
torchomatic
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So then, SISU are being taken to court, the club put into administration with the potential loss of ten points this season all because people "reckon" that SISU will do something nasty? I say "reckon" because they "haven't showed their hand and no one knows they will".
That's why this is a massive gamble by ACL and why it's weird that so many fans are pinning their colours to ACLs mast, like the four from the Trust who are actually wanting administration.
And ACL we should be thanked because they have chosen to force the club into administration rather than liquidation?
There are some strange allegiances on here, aren't there?
That's why this is a massive gamble by ACL and why it's weird that so many fans are pinning their colours to ACLs mast, like the four from the Trust who are actually wanting administration.
And ACL we should be thanked because they have chosen to force the club into administration rather than liquidation?
There are some strange allegiances on here, aren't there?
torchomatic
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Desperately excusing ACL for threatening exactly the same as SISU. Pathetic really.
Mucca Mad Boys
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Again Torch, stinks of hypocrisy.
Bluegloucester
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And neither did SISU did they? It was an option for SISU and it was an option for ACL. So why is one more acceptable to you and FF?
Torch, I believe that ACL were backed into their action by the threats of liquidation from TF. I don't see how they had a choice in the matter, if ACL had sat back and did nothing the consequences would have been unthinkable. I think their actions are in the club's best long term interests. If that means a points deduction and we miss out on promotion, so be it.
I want a club that exists for the long term, with stable finances and hope for the future. I don't think that is possible with the current owners.
That is my opinion, it differs from yours, but I assume we both have the same long term aspirations.
ajsccfc
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I went with neither. I don't trust a single word on either side so short of a magic ball that could tell me which result would see us better off I have no reason to side with what appears to be two groups of overgrown children playing he said, she said while playing with the future of a football club.
Jackoskyblue
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Spot on AJ
DazzleTommyDazzle
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And yet less side with SISU even when the "ballot paper" lumps them in with CCFC.
Grendel
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Though very close and applying the MORI Poll statistical deviation for error there it is practically a dead heat.