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Fergusons_Beard · Dec 27, 2022

Hate to wade in with the general woe is us stuff but been thinking for a while how much we rely on Gyo, how much work he gets through in a game and how many minutes he plays.

Only takes an overworked muscle or a poorly timed tackle to take him out and we are seriously fucked.

We did Ok without O Hare at the beginning of the season but with him we’re so much better.

Also looking at Allen’s performance yesterday I feel he’s playing not a 100% also.

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clint van damme · Dec 27, 2022

Tommo1993 said:
Honestly think it’s worth lumping some £’s on the drop should we be suicidal enough to sell Gyokeres.

We stayed up with Max and Baka up front.
We should be on at least 36 points come mid Jan, I'm sure Robins can wangle 20 points out of our remaining games even without the big hitters.

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 27, 2022

clint van damme said:
We stayed up with Max and Baka up front.
We should be on at least 36 points come mid Jan, I'm sure Robins can wangle 20 points out of our remaining games even without the big hitters.

50 points looks like it’ll be enough this season. 6 wins out of the next 23 should be within our capabilities

SHUNT31 · Dec 27, 2022

SkyBlueSam01 said:
Defo ACL if true

A swollen and blue knee does not mean ACL. Happens with most knee injuries.

I do agree though, that the way it happened, it looks like an ACL.

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1ccfc · Dec 27, 2022

Unfortunately, unless he signs a contract extension, this injury massively increases the chance he goes on a free. To be clear, I don’t want to sell him, but on the flip side we can't afford for players of his quality to go for nothing.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Dec 27, 2022

We need a replacement in ASAP, gonna have to be a loanee in Jan. can we do emergency loans?

shmmeee · Dec 27, 2022

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
We need a replacement in ASAP, gonna have to be a loanee in Jan. can we do emergency loans?

No. Just for GKs really

slowpoke · Dec 27, 2022

Hasn’t Walker just had a minor ACL

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
We need a replacement in ASAP, gonna have to be a loanee in Jan. can we do emergency loans?

Goalkeepers only I think

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Dec 27, 2022

slowpoke said:
Hasn’t Walker just had a minor ACL
Goalkeepers only I think

Yeah, walkers wasnt a tear only a bruise or something of the sorts though. To me this looks worse than that if he went down like he did

shmmeee · Dec 27, 2022

List just keeps getting longer, need GK, CB x 2, RWB, LWB, CM, ST and now AM.

Can’t see us getting all that. Can’t see is getting another young loan in at CB or signing a new keeper. So maybe two wingbacks and an AM in on loan and hope for the best.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Dec 27, 2022

If we can emergency loan a goalkeeper would still be handy, if they can pass a bloody football and stop goals going in

shmmeee · Dec 27, 2022

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
If we can emergency loan a goalkeeper would still be handy, if they can pass a bloody football and stop goals going in

Cant emergency loan just cos your keeper is shit AFAIK.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Dec 27, 2022

shmmeee said:
List just keeps getting longer, need GK, CB x 2, RWB, LWB, CM, ST and now AM.

Can’t see us getting all that. Can’t see is getting another young loan in at CB or signing a new keeper. So maybe two wingbacks and an AM in on loan and hope for the best.

I think a right footed CB, a quick striker and a young LWB are a cert. Then maybe an AM on loan and a CM replacement for Kelly

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Dec 27, 2022

shmmeee said:
Cant emergency loan just cos your keeper is shit AFAIK.

Shall we just say they’ve both done their ACLs then, believable at this point with our record

wingy · Dec 27, 2022

Wouldn't you only get an emergency loan on the goalie due to an injury , not a tactical reason?

Brighton Sky Blue · Dec 27, 2022

shmmeee said:
Cant emergency loan just cos your keeper is shit AFAIK.

Didn't some on here say we should make Burge's injury worse just to keep Stockdale on his emergency loan?

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Dec 27, 2022

What keepers are available on a free?

shmmeee · Dec 27, 2022

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Shall we just say they’ve both done their ACLs then, believable at this point with our record

Time to wait outside Ryton with a baseball bat I think.

(to any lawyers reading I do not mean this)

shmmeee · Dec 27, 2022

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
I think a right footed CB, a quick striker and a young LWB are a cert. Then maybe an AM on loan and a CM replacement for Kelly

Depends doesn’t it. If Walker isn’t far off I can see us not signing a striker. You’d think based on the summer we want a RCB and LWB. I think he’ll be happy enough with Kelly, Allen, maybe Burroughs and Howley to fill in at CM.

Thing is we’re six months off a ton of expensive players going off the books so I can see the pressure being to make do until Wilson, Dabo, Kane, Fadz, Rose, Kelly, Waghorn, and Walker are all out of contract and assess then.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · Dec 27, 2022

If Doug King deal goes through permanent signing of Zakaria Labyad on a free for 6 months please

Deleted member 9744 · Dec 27, 2022

clint van damme said:
We stayed up with Max and Baka up front.
We should be on at least 36 points come mid Jan, I'm sure Robins can wangle 20 points out of our remaining games even without the big hitters.

I don't think Baka started any matches and only made a few late cameo appearances

pusbccfc · Dec 27, 2022

Nixon saying club are waiting on O'Hare in response to a tweet asking if he has any news on Cov.

Can't work out if he means any transfer news or not

shmmeee · Dec 27, 2022

pusbccfc said:
Nixon saying club are waiting on O'Hare in response to a tweet asking if he has any news on Cov.

Can't work out if he means any transfer news or not

Sounds like a guess after Robins comments TBH. Other than Sheaf has he ever got anything right for us that wasn’t well known?

pusbccfc · Dec 27, 2022

shmmeee said:
Sounds like a guess after Robins comments TBH. Other than Sheaf has he ever got anything right for us that wasn’t well known?

Very true.

David O'Day · Dec 27, 2022

shmmeee said:
Sounds like a guess after Robins comments TBH. Other than Sheaf has he ever got anything right for us that wasn’t well known?

nixon is a hack

but we should wait to see rather than go on what someone's cousins friends nans gatekeeper has "said"

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 27, 2022

Being without COH is a massive shame, but it isn't the end of the world like some are saying it is. We started playing really well before he returned, but the issue we have now is that the other strikers and attacking midfielders are so thin on the ground it's tough to see how we set up effectively.

slyblue57 · Dec 27, 2022

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Being without COH is a massive shame, but it isn't the end of the world like some are saying it is. We started playing really well before he returned, but the issue we have now is that the other strikers and attacking midfielders are so thin on the ground it's tough to see how we set up effectively.

Not the end of the world but the thought of Kelly and Allen in midfield is.

rexo87 · Dec 27, 2022

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Being without COH is a massive shame, but it isn't the end of the world like some are saying it is. We started playing really well before he returned, but the issue we have now is that the other strikers and attacking midfielders are so thin on the ground it's tough to see how we set up effectively.

Disagree. We started picking up points before he came back but didn't start playing well at all. The wins against Cardiff, Sheff U and Stoke were scrappy and not very fluent at all. We started playing a lot better and like the start of last season once Ohare was back

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Dec 27, 2022

pusbccfc said:
Hearing it's definitely an ACL.

Never get any luck supporting Cov is there?

Prime asset with a possibly career changing injury. Loss of one of our best players and now another body down. In dire need of additions in January.

If true then words fail me.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 27, 2022

slyblue57 said:
Not the end of the world but the thought of Kelly and Allen in midfield is.

We're desperate for some reinforcements.

Kane
Waghorn
Walker
Moore
Kelly
Eccles
Dabo
Godden

That list makes a huge hole in our limited wage budget. Those players are either constantly injured, or bombed out by the manager. You could potentially add to it as well, if you wanted to include those that aren't really good enough.

wingy · Dec 27, 2022

It's the M.O.M curse.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 27, 2022

rexo87 said:
Disagree. We started picking up points before he came back but didn't start playing well at all. The wins against Cardiff, Sheff U and Stoke were scrappy and not very fluent at all. We started playing a lot better and like the start of last season once Ohare was back

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Our brand of football may have been more attractive, but the facts speak for themselves. It's a myth we can't play and win without him. We lost only 1 in 9 games before his first 90 minute return.

His first 90 back was then against Blackpool, which we lost 2-1. The next time he played a lesser amount was against Watford where he played 24 minutes. We won that 1-0.

He adds a lot of value to the team obviously, but if we are a one man team then that award goes exclusively to Gyökeres only. My worry is that only have Palmer to come in, and extremely thin on the ground otherwise. As per my above post, we have a lot of players collecting wages that aren't contributing for whatever reason.

rexo87 · Dec 27, 2022

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Our brand of football may have been more attractive, but the facts speak for themselves. It's a myth we can't play and win without him. We lost only 1 in 9 games before his first 90 minute return.

His first 90 back was then against Blackpool, which we lost 2-1. The next time he played a lesser amount was against Watford where he played 24 minutes. We won that 1-0.

He adds a lot of value to the team obviously, but if we are a one man team then that award goes exclusively to Gyökeres only. My worry is that only have Palmer to come in, and extremely thin on the ground otherwise. As per my above post, we have a lot of players collecting wages that aren't contributing for whatever reason.

Not saying we can't grind out results without him but my point is we are a much worse footballing side without him. I honestly don't think we've played well in any game he hasn't played in this season

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stupot07 · Dec 27, 2022

rexo87 said:
Disagree. We started picking up points before he came back but didn't start playing well at all. The wins against Cardiff, Sheff U and Stoke were scrappy and not very fluent at all. We started playing a lot better and like the start of last season once Ohare was back

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I agree. We have looked far more dangerous since O'Hare has been back he is a big loss and means we probably have to go back to the more defensive grinding out wins type of football we did just before he came back.

Our record with O'Hare this season is

P7 W4 D1 L2 W% 57% PPG 1.87

Without O'Hare

P17 W5 D5 L7 W% 29% PPG 1.00

It's not rocket science he is one of our best players and has a terrific understanding with Gyokeres. If you asked every manager in the league would they rather play us with O'Hare in or out the team every single one would prefer him out of our team.

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Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Dec 27, 2022

rexo87 said:
Not saying we can't grind out results without him but my point is we are a much worse footballing side without him. I honestly don't think we've played well in any game he hasn't played in this season

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I can see where you're coming from, but we'll probably just have to disagree on this one. He adds something none of our other players do for sure, but I think he's looked a bit off recently anyway.

As I said though, my biggest concern is that we have no other attacking players avaliable really and because of that we will probably miss him more this time. We can't really play two strikers as we haven't got anyone else, and with an attacking midfield of Allen and Palmer, Gyökeres is more or less going to have to do it entirely on his own.

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