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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #946
It's not the fees that matter particularly, it's the overall wage bill and the size of the squad. Fees either way are usually pretty marginal I would think in the normal course of events. If we want to reduce the losses then we have to sell a player or two for a good profit (we've done no business of that kind since McCallum) as well as trying to generate new revenue streams to boost income.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #947
Speedie's Head said:
It's not the fees that matter particularly, it's the overall wage bill and the size of the squad. Fees either way are usually pretty marginal I would think. If we want to reduce the losses then we have to sell a player or two for a good profit (we've done no business of that kind since McCallum) as well as trying to generate new revenue streams to boost income.
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Far too logical for the bedwetters
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #948
Speedie's Head said:
It's not the fees that matter particularly, it's the overall wage bill and the size of the squad. Fees either way are usually pretty marginal I would think. If we want to reduce the losses then we have to sell a player or two for a good profit (we've done no business of that kind since McCallum) as well as trying to generate new revenue streams to boost income.
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Others clubs owners actually put investment into the club - we get Tim starting a university course
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #949
Sky Blue Pete said:
Far too logical for the bedwetters
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What if the manager gets none of the proceeds to find a replacement? Still good business?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #950
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Others clubs owners actually put investment into the club - we get Tim starting a university course
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Some not all but that doesn’t mean we don’t deserve a bit
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #951
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What if the manager gets none of the proceeds to find a replacement? Still good business?
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I think he's possibly already got Palmer.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #952
Speedie's Head said:
I think he's possibly already got Palmer.
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Isn't he an 'as well as' rather than 'in place of'?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #953
We’re being taken for a fucking ride and half of the fan base just want to know if there are any hight restrictions.
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #954
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Isn't he an 'as well as' rather than 'in place of'?
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I hope so but let's see. Maybe the equation changed when Tyler reported back. I'm guessing that he (Tyler) might play on the left later in games as in the Forest match...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #955
Liquid Gold said:
We’re being taken for a fucking ride and half of the fan base just want to know if there are any hight restrictions.
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If indeed O'Hare is sold for a bargain price and Robins sees none of the proceeds let's see how many are still saying 'we need to cut our cloth'.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #956
Speedie's Head said:
I hope so but let's see. Maybe the equation changed when Tyler reported back. I'm guessing that he (Tyler) might play on the left later in games as in the Forest match...
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What message this sends to the other valuable members of the squad I'm not sure. What I am sure of is those at the top of the club aren't fit for purpose
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #957
Liquid Gold said:
We’re being taken for a fucking ride and half of the fan base just want to know if there are any hight restrictions.
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The lack of ambition from the fans is mad
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #958
So are people being called bedwetters because they expect no or very insufficient reinvestment? Surely it’s a very justified thought process?
 
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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #959
skyblueelephant76 said:
We couldn't have had Twine for nothing. His fee went to a tribunal as he was under 24 and MK Dons paid £300k plus 20% sell on clause.
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If we signed twine for £300,000 and he performed at the same level as he did in l1 then i genuinely think we would’ve finished in the play offs
 
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TomRad85

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #960
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If indeed O'Hare is sold for a bargain price and Robins sees none of the proceeds let's see how many are still saying 'we need to cut our cloth'.
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The fact that so many of our fans gobble up the shite just shows how we've been conditioned over the years. We are basically Fritzls children.

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #961
Brighton Sky Blue said:
What if the manager gets none of the proceeds to find a replacement? Still good business?
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I’m not happy with the situation
I do wish we had an owner that didn’t add interest at eyewatering rates - I accept that until club is sold this isn’t really relevant
I recognise that the wage bill needs funding and we don’t have an owner willing to gift money
I recognise this means we need to sell an asset most years
I feel we need to maximise the sale and stil expect us to do so
I fully expect a sale to be a good sale for the club as a whole
I reckon most will support the ongoing b movement forward of the club
I would be disappointed if no money was made available for a transfer but would understand if investment was in the form of signing on fees and wages for new faces

you?
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #962
SeaSeeEffCee said:
The lack of ambition from the fans is mad
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But Derby they shout at the bedwetters as they justify us not getting anything to spend from our biggest sale in 20 years
 
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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #963
I think Palmer will be on a decent wage - especially coming on a free
 
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Deity

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #964
SUSU are not ambitious. They just want to claw back their investment through one off cash inflows ( transfers ) and higher interest rates.

our lack of activity to support Robins in January spoke volumes. Before someone says that they put players on better contracts …..refer back to one off cash inflows for the rationale
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #965
Tommo1993 said:
So are people being called bedwetters because they expect no or very insufficient reinvestment? Surely it’s a very justified thought process?
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The bed wetting is assuming the worst at every turn
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #966
SeaSeeEffCee said:
The lack of ambition from the fans is mad
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There's a difference between a fan having a lack of ambition and having enough sense to know that the way our owners operate the club means that ambition won't be fulfilled.
I'd love to see us up there trying to win the championship/get promoted, but I know deep down it is unlikely. Doesn't stop me going to the games and enjoying the experience though.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #967
Sky Blue Pete said:
I’m not happy with the situation
I do wish we had an owner that didn’t add interest at eyewatering rates - I accept that until club is sold this isn’t really relevant
I recognise that the wage bill needs funding and we don’t have an owner willing to gift money
I recognise this means we need to sell an asset most years
I feel we need to maximise the sale and stil expect us to do so
I fully expect a sale to be a good sale for the club as a whole
I reckon most will support the ongoing b movement forward of the club
I would be disappointed if no money was made available for a transfer but would understand if investment was in the form of signing on fees and wages for new faces

you?
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I hope any sale is 8 figures but have no faith in those negotiating the fee from our side
It seems unlikely but not impossible that the manager will get anything except wages from the sale
In such a case the team appears slightly weaker if anything than it was last time
I'm left to hope that Robins can work wonders on the pittance he has been given-another mid table finish would be excellent

I think people should expect highly of whichever club they support and not hear 'but Derby' as a rebuttal to spending 6 figure fees on talent from the leagues below
 
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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #968
Sky Blue Pete said:
The bed wetting is assuming the worst at every turn
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Again, people can’t be blamed for expecting it, looking at the past.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #969
Sky Blue Pete said:
The bed wetting is assuming the worst at every turn
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Bed wetting is responding to information provided by people who have shown to have consistently good inside knowledge of the workings of the club now.

I’ll change my opinion if things turn out differently but it’s head in the sand to just assume everything is fine.

Take your petty comments out on your contacts with the club not the fans who put their money and time into this only to be taken for mugs. Frustration is a natural response and having a go at people for t is pretty pathetic.
 

Samo

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #970
Deity said:
SUSU are not ambitious. They just want to claw back their investment through one off cash inflows ( transfers ) and higher interest rates.

our lack of activity to support Robins in January spoke volumes. Before someone says that they put players on better contracts …..refer back to one off cash inflows for the rationale
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SISU are certainly ambitious, just not regarding the football club.
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #971
Nothing has happened yet!

- Not one single trusted source has given a COH fee
- Unless you can see the future, no-one knows how we will replace COH

This is the definition of bed-wetting. If we get to September 1st and COH has left for £6m with no replacement, go wild. Until then you're getting mad online for nothing.

Touch grass.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #972
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I hope any sale is 8 figures but have no faith in those negotiating the fee from our side
It seems unlikely but not impossible that the manager will get anything except wages from the sale
In such a case the team appears slightly weaker if anything than it was last time
I'm left to hope that Robins can work wonders on the pittance he has been given-another mid table finish would be excellent

I think people should expect highly of whichever club they support and not hear 'but Derby' as a rebuttal to spending 6 figure fees on talent from the leagues below
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Agree with all of that my friend
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #973
Tommo1993 said:
Again, people can’t be blamed for expecting it, looking at the past.
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The past 4years
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #974
Liquid Gold said:
Bed wetting is responding to information provided by people who have shown to have consistently good inside knowledge of the workings of the club now.

I’ll change my opinion if things turn out differently but it’s head in the sand to just assume everything is fine.

Take your petty comments out on your contacts with the club not the fans who put their money and time into this only to be taken for mugs. Frustration is a natural response and having a go at people for t is pretty pathetic.
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Who are the itk’s? I’ve not seen any genuine people give any information other than robins yesterday and it’s clear all 3 are for sale at the right price
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #975
skyblue93 said:
Nothing has happened yet!

- Not one single trusted source has given a COH fee
- Unless you can see the future, no-one knows how we will replace COH

This is the definition of bed-wetting.
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Actually I would say the bed wetting has been triggered by inside info from ITKs, so it's not really bed wetting, it's based on info from good sources.
Personally I would have assumed if he was sold it would be for a good fee and we'd re-invest, which I'd be fine with. That's not what we're hearing though.

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Speedie's Head

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #976
Sky Blue Pete said:
Agree with all of that my friend
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Certainly! The wage budget won't be higher than last season and Robins, rightly, wants a bigger squad. That means more nippers and slightly less experience
 

TomRad85

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #977
Sky Blue Pete said:
Who are the itk’s? I’ve not seen any genuine people give any information other than robins yesterday and it’s clear all 3 are for sale at the right price
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Believer clearly has a very decent contact within the club.

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Samo

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #978
skyblue93 said:
Nothing has happened yet!

- Not one single trusted source has given a COH fee
- Unless you can see the future, no-one knows how we will replace COH

This is the definition of bed-wetting. If we get to September 1st and COH has left for £6m with no replacement, go wild. Until then you're getting mad online for nothing.

Touch grass.
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I think you'll find it's actually having a wee while in the sack. (or some such!)
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #979
Sky Blue Pete said:
The past 4years
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3 of the last 5 seasons were at our lowest for almost 60 years - the fact you constitute that success is baffling
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 17, 2022
  • #980
TomRad85 said:
Actually I would say the bed wetting has been triggered by inside info from ITKs, so it's not really bed wetting, it's based on info from good sources.
Personally I would have assumed if he was sold it would be for a good fee and we'd re-invest, which I'd be fine with. That's not what we're hearing though.

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Who are these in the knows? The only with inside knowledge haven’t said anything.
Robins has said about freeing up wages and talked about Ohare

The £2.5m and £6m are utter bollox with a narrative of sisu are destroying our club and woe is me supporting this club.

If the quote from overson that someone made up had said £10m plus add ons this would be a different discussion
Who have we let go cheaply in the last 5 years?
 
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