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shmmeee

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #351
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Shhmeee, it’s a light hearted satire video, nothing more. 2 minutes of a wet lettuce would probably be more accurate but less entertaining.
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Except it’s not just that video is it? That videos done well because it reflects a lot of left wing thought. You and Ian and FP have been on here with it constantly since he was elected too. “Oh he’s not 100% Corbyn he’s basically Blair”. It’s just so pathetic and selfdestructive. I just don’t find it funny I guess.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #352
shmmeee said:
Except it’s not just that video is it? That videos done well because it reflects a lot of left wing thought. You and Ian and FP have been on here with it constantly since he was elected too. “Oh he’s not 100% Corbyn he’s basically Blair”. It’s just so pathetic and selfdestructive. I just don’t find it funny I guess.
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I have never made the Blair comparison. I have said often that he reminds me of Ed Miliband but without the lisp. My big issue with him has been on his lack of support for teachers and education, followed by this nonsense stance on vaccinating teachers to reopen schools. Because I am a teacher and that directly affects me, I obviously have more of a bone to pick with him on it.

You’re a party activist, I’m merely a voter. If Johnson actually ends up spending the money he claims to on the things he claims to want to and sticks it to Sturgeon, maybe he’ll get my vote next time.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #353
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I have never made the Blair comparison. I have said often that he reminds me of Ed Miliband but without the lisp. My big issue with him has been on his lack of support for teachers and education, followed by this nonsense stance on vaccinating teachers to reopen schools. Because I am a teacher and that directly affects me, I obviously have more of a bone to pick with him on it.

You’re a party activist, I’m merely a voter. If Johnson actually ends up spending the money he claims to on the things he claims to want to and sticks it to Sturgeon, maybe he’ll get my vote next time.
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Im a member, not an activist, and only a member because they won’t process my resignation.

Maybe I’ve lumped you in with the wrong group but it’s still a thing of left wing people with this belief that anyone right of Corbyn is beyond the pale and thing political strategy is a dirty word.

Johnson won’t spend on shit. He’ll be gone soon and Rishi Thatcher will be in trying to “balance the budget”. Johnson is not, as they say, a finisher/completer.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #354
shmmeee said:
Im a member, not an activist, and only a member because they won’t process my resignation.

Maybe I’ve lumped you in with the wrong group but it’s still a thing of left wing people with this belief that anyone right of Corbyn is beyond the pale and thing political strategy is a dirty word.

Johnson won’t spend on shit. He’ll be gone soon and Rishi Thatcher will be in trying to “balance the budget”. Johnson is not, as they say, a finisher/completer.
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I’m sure there’s a good number of those people, but there are also more like me, who don’t care which party does what needs to be done as long as they do it. If Johnson’s government behaves like a Labour one I’ll vote for it-doesn’t mean I think he will but if he did I wouldn’t be objective if I gave him no credit.

And on school reopening, I think Johnson’s head is more screwed on than Keir’s.
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #355
shmmeee said:
Im a member, not an activist, and only a member because they won’t process my resignation.

Maybe I’ve lumped you in with the wrong group but it’s still a thing of left wing people with this belief that anyone right of Corbyn is beyond the pale and thing political strategy is a dirty word.

Johnson won’t spend on shit. He’ll be gone soon and Rishi Thatcher will be in trying to “balance the budget”. Johnson is not, as they say, a finisher/completer.
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why are you resigning?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #356
Ed Milliband was too left wing for the press and not left wing enough for my socialist pure friends
Impossible for the Labour Party to be a broad enough church.

it’s so sad and I have no answer. It’s still anyone but self serving rich kids for me
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #357
shmmeee said:
Im a member, not an activist, and only a member because they won’t process my resignation.

Maybe I’ve lumped you in with the wrong group but it’s still a thing of left wing people with this belief that anyone right of Corbyn is beyond the pale and thing political strategy is a dirty word.

Johnson won’t spend on shit. He’ll be gone soon and Rishi Thatcher will be in trying to “balance the budget”. Johnson is not, as they say, a finisher/completer.
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I'm sure there's women out there wish that were true.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #358
shmmeee said:
Except it’s not just that video is it? That videos done well because it reflects a lot of left wing thought. You and Ian and FP have been on here with it constantly since he was elected too. “Oh he’s not 100% Corbyn he’s basically Blair”. It’s just so pathetic and selfdestructive. I just don’t find it funny I guess.
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I’ve stated on here many times he would have my support if he stuck to his pledges he was elected on. They weren’t even that progressive or controversial - so I can’t fathom why he thinks to abandon them. It’s supposed to be new leadership - it’s recycled shite from 2010-15 and we all know how that played out.
He’s got the schools calls massively wrong from the start - you know it, abandoning the teaching unions was and continues to be absurd.
One final point - the ‘left’ have a really small voice in the media... most of his criticism is coming from the centre and the right.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #359
Bit cultist to not laugh at something objectively funny because it’s at your cult leader.

Better than professional ‘comedians’ saying the country would be better off if Glastonbury was bombed to kill off anybody who thought Corbyn was a good idea.
 

chiefdave

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #360
Liquid Gold said:
Bit cultist to not laugh at something objectively funny because it’s at your cult leader.
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Cult of Starmer is no different to the cult of Corbyn. Its funny that they're acting exactly the same but are completely oblivious to it.
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #361
chiefdave said:
Cult of Starmer is no different to the cult of Corbyn. Its funny that they're acting exactly the same but are completely oblivious to it.
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To be honest it's all over politics now.
Brexiteers who can't accept it's responsible for what's currently going on in the fishing injury.
Rejoiners who won't have it that the EU have screwed up over the procurement and distribution of vaccines.

As someone said, it's like football, pick and team and never see any wrong in them.

Personally I never want to hear Corbyns name again. He gives tory voters a lazy excuse to turn a blind eye to the failings of the government. How many times you heard it? Could have been worse, could have been Corbyn.

I'm sure they'd find some equally lame excuse but at least make them work for it a bit.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #362
clint van damme said:
To be honest it's all over politics now.
Brexiteers who can't accept it's responsible for what's currently going on in the fishing injury.
Rejoiners who won't have it that the EU have screwed up over the procurement and distribution of vaccines.

As someone said, it's like football, pick and team and never see any wrong in them.

Personally I never want to hear Corbyns name again. He gives tory voters a lazy excuse to turn a blind eye to the failings of the government. How many times you heard it? Could have been worse, could have been Corbyn.

I'm sure they'd find some equally lame excuse but at least make them work for it a bit.
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Have a friend who does just that
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #363
Sky Blue Pete said:
Have a friend who does just that
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move house in the dead of night and change your phone number Pete!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #364
clint van damme said:
move house in the dead of night and change your phone number Pete!
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On facebook. Brexit completely Corbyn and labours fault for not being a good opposition lol
 

clint van damme

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #365
Sky Blue Pete said:
On facebook. Brexit completely Corbyn and labours fault for not being a good opposition lol
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it's madness!
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #366
I hate the football fanification of politics. No shame in changing your mind. I for instance gave Starmer my second preference and now I think he’s not worth being anywhere near leadership.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 6, 2021
  • #367
shmmeee said:
Im a member, not an activist, and only a member because they won’t process my resignation.

Maybe I’ve lumped you in with the wrong group but it’s still a thing of left wing people with this belief that anyone right of Corbyn is beyond the pale and thing political strategy is a dirty word.

Johnson won’t spend on shit. He’ll be gone soon and Rishi Thatcher will be in trying to “balance the budget”. Johnson is not, as they say, a finisher/completer.
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You're entirely misrepresenting me.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 8, 2021
  • #368
I just wish I got strategy. You'll like this shmmeee

 
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shmmeee

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  • Feb 9, 2021
  • #369
Ian1779 said:
I’ve stated on here many times he would have my support if he stuck to his pledges he was elected on. They weren’t even that progressive or controversial - so I can’t fathom why he thinks to abandon them. It’s supposed to be new leadership - it’s recycled shite from 2010-15 and we all know how that played out.
He’s got the schools calls massively wrong from the start - you know it, abandoning the teaching unions was and continues to be absurd.
One final point - the ‘left’ have a really small voice in the media... most of his criticism is coming from the centre and the right.
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The media I read is mostly left wing. There’s currently a leadership contest being planned with Richard fucking Burgon, WHY??

Yes I agree on the schools, but the man hasn’t put any pledges into action yet. We’re four years from an election! Just yesterday he announced a load of nationalisation for Christ sakes. Yet he’s still not left enough.

Which of his ten pledges has he broken? nearly all of which are for when we’re in power, unless you think an opposition can repeal the trade Union Act against a government with an 80 seat majority.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 9, 2021
  • #370
shmmeee said:
The media I read is mostly left wing. There’s currently a leadership contest being planned with Richard fucking Burgon, WHY??

Yes I agree on the schools, but the man hasn’t put any pledges into action yet. We’re four years from an election! Just yesterday he announced a load of nationalisation for Christ sakes. Yet he’s still not left enough.

Which of his ten pledges has he broken? nearly all of which are for when we’re in power, unless you think an opposition can repeal the trade Union Act against a government with an 80 seat majority.
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I agree on Richard Burgon, he's wetter than an otter's pocket
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 9, 2021
  • #371
shmmeee said:
The media I read is mostly left wing. There’s currently a leadership contest being planned with Richard fucking Burgon, WHY??

Yes I agree on the schools, but the man hasn’t put any pledges into action yet. We’re four years from an election! Just yesterday he announced a load of nationalisation for Christ sakes. Yet he’s still not left enough.

Which of his ten pledges has he broken? nearly all of which are for when we’re in power, unless you think an opposition can repeal the trade Union Act against a government with an 80 seat majority.
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I’m not suggesting there should be a leadership challenge at all, it’s not beneficial to anyone apart from the Tories, but so far he hasn’t said the same things that he said in the leadership campaign, so I think that is a legitimate thing to challenge and question

Obviously I posted this before yesterday’s ‘announcement’ so this is at least encouraging. I’m not saying he’s not ‘left’ enough - I’m saying stick to what you said you would and stop sending out your shitty shadow ministers to say the opposite and you would find a lot more of that ‘unity’ that you were supposedly striving for.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 9, 2021
  • #372
shmmeee said:
The media I read is mostly left wing. There’s currently a leadership contest being planned with Richard fucking Burgon, WHY??

Yes I agree on the schools, but the man hasn’t put any pledges into action yet. We’re four years from an election! Just yesterday he announced a load of nationalisation for Christ sakes. Yet he’s still not left enough.

Which of his ten pledges has he broken? nearly all of which are for when we’re in power, unless you think an opposition can repeal the trade Union Act against a government with an 80 seat majority.
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Which of his ten pledges has he broken? Technically none, though his actions so far aren't very conducive with 7,9 and 10.
I agree about a leadership challenge, by anyone, just not the way forward at this point.
 

Ian1779

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  • Feb 9, 2021
  • #373
I guess what I am saying is I joined the Labour Party because the things that Corbyn had to say resonated with me. Now, ultimately HE wasn’t able to deliver that, but that doesn’t mean that what he had to say isn’t relevant or important, because it is more than ever. He can take all those good bits and develop them with his ‘electability’ - they don’t need to be abandoned for the sake of abandoning them.

Post Cov-ID and with a Climate Crisis looming we need radical and forward-thinking to meet these head on. Talking about being fiscally responsible isn’t going to cut it any longer.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 11, 2021
  • #374
Labour trying to understand voters

 
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