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  • Start date Dec 29, 2021
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lord_garrincha

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #176
I believe that if we had a fully committed & focused (don't laugh) Enobakhare he would have done sod all in this league anyway, and would have got disheartened and just delayed the inevitable by 3-months.

Being generous, our budget is short on 2 decent players.
 

larry_david

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #177
What also frustrates me about o hare and Allen is that they are always outpaced and just outmuscled on the ball. For me, and it's obviously not their fault, I think they get eaten alive by dominant midfields. Allen yesterday broke the lines and had 20 yards of space to run into and before he'd even got control of the ball he'd been swallowed up and dispossessed. Happens every week. They don't have the pace or the strength
 
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fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #178
pusbccfc said:
For the O'Hare naysayers. If you were Robins, who would you replace him with in our squad?

We've seen Shipley can't do that role, we've seen that Allen can't do it either.
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That is a real issue that I'm sure MR will address in the next pre season, goals from midfield is what has cost us a play off place this season, I'd be happy to sell O'hare if needs be to add a goalscoring midfielder.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #179
Losing these games we should be easily winning is so frustrating but imo with a stronger midfield O’Hare would be much better might not be the biggest but he’s one of the most competitive players we have a poser for MR but getting a tough acm in has to be a priority and will help O’Hare.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #180
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The owners are not going to invest a penny and much the opposite, they’re going to help themselves as and when a player goes for a big fee. Robins is delivering mid table on a basement budget, give him a middling one and we turn games like yesterday into the heavy wins they should be.
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You have said, along with others, that the owners won’t, don’t invest. Then why make it your mantra to bang on about it?
It is obvious that we are short of goals from midfield. That’s our Achilles heel.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #181
riyadhskyblue said:
You have said, along with others, that the owners won’t, don’t invest. Then why make it your mantra to bang on about it?
It is obvious that we are short of goals from midfield. That’s our Achilles heel.
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Because discussion on how to improve on what we have or how to make the best of what we’ve got is a bit meaningless when the answer is simply we don’t have owners bothered about success on the pitch
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #182
fatso said:
That is a real issue that I'm sure MR will address in the next pre season, goals from midfield is what has cost us a play off place this season, I'd be happy to sell O'hare if needs be to add a goalscoring midfielder.
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But if O'Hare is as average as people say on this thread, he won't be going to anyone for much more than a million.

A million won't get you a goalscoring midfielder at this level.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #183
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Because discussion on how to improve on what we have or how to make the best of what we’ve got is a bit meaningless when the answer is simply we don’t have owners bothered about success on the pitch
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Well actually yes it is meaningless. You said so yourself.
 

fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #184
pusbccfc said:
But if O'Hare is as average as people say on this thread, he won't be going to anyone for much more than a million.

A million won't get you a goalscoring midfielder at this level.
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It would help though.
 

fatso

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #185
Derby were odds on for relegation before the season started, but if they hadn't had a massive point deduction they would now be within 2 games of overtaking us!

You could argue that they have over achieved with the squad they have, or you could argue that we have let far too many points slip away by not being ruthless in front of goal.

(You could argue both tbf)
But for me, a lack of goals from midfield and set pieces is the biggest problem.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #186
riyadhskyblue said:
Well actually yes it is meaningless. You said so yourself.
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It is meaningless then to talk about anything that’s not definitely going to happen - didn’t stop you talking about the Hoff and the poker player I seem to Recall?
 
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better days

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #187
We are a work in progress
I suspect we will see things start to come together in the next two or three months
We aren't far off in my opinion
The management know where the problems are and it's plain they are working to fix them
 
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Great_Expectations

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #188
How is this even a thread? If you can’t see the plethora of attributes COH brings to the team then I’m not sure what to say.

Judging players solely on goals scored is dinosaur thinking (lost track of the number of times I’ve put that on here over the years).

His finishing (or lack of) is of course frustrating, but that doesn’t solely apply to him. His ability to make things happen in the attacking third, often in tight positions, with his back to goal and surrounded by players, is unparalleled in our team.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #189
better days said:
We are a work in progress
I suspect we will see things start to come together in the next two or three months
We aren't far off in my opinion
The management know where the problems are and it's plain they are working to fix them
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Clearly they’re doing the best they can but they’re working with no support from above. That’s the issue most are having
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #190
Grendel said:
It is meaningless then to talk about anything that’s not definitely going to happen - didn’t stop you talking about the Hoff and the poker player I seem to Recall?
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Been through your files again. Could have happened, could have ridden the club of Sisu. Didn’t happen no harm done to you or me. Open minded.
You on the other hand, you type like you have a lemon in your mouth and life has dealt you a bad hand. If you ever need anything reach out.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #191
The way I see it is we're doing around twice as well as the previous visit in this division for around half of or even a quarter of the budget if you take into account damaging losses that took us to the precipice.
Not withstanding debt to the owner's etc and whatever that means or entails IE stranglehold.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #192
fatso said:
Derby were odds on for relegation before the season started, but if they hadn't had a massive point deduction they would now be within 2 games of overtaking us!

You could argue that they have over achieved with the squad they have, or you could argue that we have let far too many points slip away by not being ruthless in front of goal.

(You could argue both tbf)
But for me, a lack of goals from midfield and set pieces is the biggest problem.
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Derby have a better squad than us and many in this division. If they stay up, it's not the biggest miracle in history that we keep hearing.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #193
Great_Expectations said:
How is this even a thread? If you can’t see the plethora of attributes COH brings to the team then I’m not sure what to say.

Judging players solely on goals scored is dinosaur thinking (lost track of the number of times I’ve put that on here over the years).

His finishing (or lack of) is of course frustrating, but that doesn’t solely apply to him. His ability to make things happen in the attacking third, often in tight positions, with his back to goal and surrounded by players, is unparalleled in our team.
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Poor man’s Jay Tabb
 
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djr8369

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #194
better days said:
We are a work in progress
I suspect we will see things start to come together in the next two or three months
We aren't far off in my opinion
The management know where the problems are and it's plain they are working to fix them
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I said similar yesterday, we learn to win those types of games and we are in the playoffs. It’s pretty clear where the issues are and the management team have always solved them and moved us forward previously.
 
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SheafIsGod

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #195
He’s better coming off the bench.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #196
riyadhskyblue said:
Been through your files again. Could have happened, could have ridden the club of Sisu. Didn’t happen no harm done to you or me. Open minded.
You on the other hand, you type like you have a lemon in your mouth and life has dealt you a bad hand. If you ever need anything reach out.
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It was never going to happen
 

NortonSkyBlue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #197
Grendel said:
It was never going to happen
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And so it proved. I bow to you Nostradamus, you and your boy Nick were correct. Now bore off and rifle through your files
 

CDK

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #198
Garryb80 said:
4 in 70 odd games for us . He needs to score or assist and does neither.
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For me the amount of chances he creates get wasted by the strikers ,who with the exception of godden walker and Viktor there not at the necessary level finishing wise .with walker whose all round quality is a league below,Viktor whose overall play is quality apart from finishing.
I can imagine O'Hare avoids this media like the plague.
What is it about a lot of people always needing a scapegoat boo boy.
 

Greggs

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #199
Very similar player to Andy Morrell, minus the goals.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #200
CDK said:
For me the amount of chances he creates get wasted by the strikers ,who with the exception of godden walker and Viktor there not at the necessary level finishing wise .
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With the exception? 75%?
 

Blind-Faith

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #201
Greggs said:
Very similar player to Andy Morrell, minus the goals.
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oldfiver

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #202
pusbccfc said:
But if O'Hare is as average as people say on this thread, he won't be going to anyone for much more than a million.

A million won't get you a goalscoring midfielder at this level.
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Perhaps they should stop paying their PAYE for a couple of years?
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #203
Greggs said:
Very similar player to Andy Morrell, minus the goals.
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Morrell = End product
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Jan 30, 2022
  • #204
I'm glad these threads pop up time to time it allows me to discount the opinions of folks that have no clue about football!
 
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pusbccfc

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  • Feb 5, 2022
  • #205
Lots of praise for O'Hare (alongside others) from the wider press today.
 
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SheafIsGod

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  • Feb 5, 2022
  • #206
Yet another game where O’Hare runs his socks off but fails to do anything meaningful. Get him out of our club. Utter shite
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Feb 5, 2022
  • #207
He was fucking brilliant and if you can’t see it so you kind me resting my apple in your head dent?
 
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SheafIsGod

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  • Feb 5, 2022
  • #208
Liquid Gold said:
He was fucking brilliant and if you can’t see it so you kind me resting my apple in your head dent?
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Do we have a problem here soft arse?
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Feb 5, 2022
  • #209
SheafIsGod said:
Yet another game where O’Hare runs his socks off but fails to do anything meaningful. Get him out of our club. Utter shite
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O’Hare needs to have a goal fly in from a fluke and he’ll get 10 in short order.
 

cc84cov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 5, 2022
  • #210
SheafIsGod said:
Do we have a problem here soft arse?
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