Not replacing Mowbray (1 Viewer)

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 14, 2017

in November was the main reason for relegation

Deleted member 2477 · Apr 14, 2017

What a load of bollocks. Slade not winning a game is why we are relegated

ccfcway · Apr 14, 2017

leadership comes from the top.

Enough said

ccfclinney · Apr 14, 2017

Many things ..
Mowbray didnt get the scouting system in place HE brought Venus in to sort out. Wasn't done. Recruitment was shocking in the summer.
Venus poor manager shouldn't have ever been given the job needed to go with Mowbray.
Slade - enough said awful decision poor manager, panic buyed with Yakubu and couple of others!

Robins - gives us hope, talks sense got some good results. But ultimately out of his hands and to little to late I'm afraid. Hopefully he can have a good summer and win promotion next season.

ajsccfc · Apr 14, 2017

We'd have been at least mid-table if Robins had come in instead of farting around with pretend manager Venus and even more pretend manager Slade.

covmark · Apr 14, 2017

We're owned by total shitcunts is the main reason for relegation.

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Hullinho87 · Apr 14, 2017

Slade was a terminal cock up. General leadership and operational ineptness from top down.

afan4life · Apr 14, 2017

Sky Blue Pete said:
in November was the main reason for relegation

I hope you are a wind up merchant because if you are not ..................................you are a fuc*ing Moron

covmark · Apr 14, 2017

afan4life said:
I hope you are a wind up merchant because if you are not ..................................you are a fuc*ing Moron

This is the most ironic post of the day.

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afan4life · Apr 14, 2017

covmark said:
This is the most ironic post of the day.

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well said ...

rupert_bear · Apr 14, 2017

marcusp said:
What a load of bollocks. Slade not winning a game is why we are relegated

One point from safety when Slade was appointed ! 17 I think it was when he got sacked. The same players Slade had at his disposal have won three drew one and won a cup final. Tony Mowbray along with Mark Venus have a lot of responsability for our eventual relegation but the Russell Slade period put the tin hat on it.

covmark · Apr 14, 2017

afan4life said:
well said ...

Thanks

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Nick · Apr 14, 2017

rupert_bear said:
One point from safety when Slade was appointed ! 17 I think it was when he got sacked. The same players Slade had at his disposal have won three drew one and won a cup final. Tony Mowbray along with Mark Venus have a lot of responsability for our eventual relegation but the Russell Slade period put the tin hat on it.

Exactly, so many what ifs

NortonSkyBlue · Apr 14, 2017

We fought hard, came up short, credit Robins for giving us hope, respect to the Charlton fans who stood alongside us, more than can be said for many of our own.

Hullinho87 · Apr 14, 2017

What if's are only truly what if's they were calculated risks not, not thought through risks!

Control the controllable's ..

Sky Blue Pete · Apr 14, 2017

covmark said:
We're owned by total shitcunts is the main reason for relegation.

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Yep actually I agree this was their worst mistake

Gazolba · Apr 14, 2017

Not scoring enough goals was the main reason. Our top scorer has, what 4 goals?
Not signing one or two recognised goal-scorers was the main reason.
Having two sub-standard goal-keepers didn't help.

Chipfat · Apr 14, 2017

The decision making at the club is shocking which ultimately involves pulling the rug under every manager that's ever been hired.

So we can look at the managers and decision they have made on a result Basis but they are only a part of the problem. Robin's has proved to be the best but has already walked once so don't be shocked if he does again.

trevelfarandwide · Apr 14, 2017

Recruitment was key; TM set targets, Venus couldn't/didn't acquire them. Then Venus hired Slade.

Enough said. Then again, if Venus wasn't up to the task, why were his services retained? Ask Tiny Tim.

All in all, relegation has occurred due to a catalogue of fatal errors, from the boardroom to the dressing room.

Saying that, if TM wins automatic promotion with Blackburn next season, we'll know it was all Timmy and Venus's fault.

chiefdave · Apr 14, 2017

Ironic in a way that the thing we all welcomes (Mowbray and Venus insisting on total control of all football matters) is the thing that has sunk us. From the botched recruitment to the terrible start under Mowbray with him constantly telling everyone the team wasn't as good as last year, to Venus taking over himself and the final blow of appointing Slade.

You have to wonder what might have happened if when Mowbray went Fisher had told Venus to go as well and got Robins in then.

pusbccfc · Apr 14, 2017

Mowbray gets huge blame from me. Not getting us into the play offs (at least) last season was unforgivable.

sylus · Apr 14, 2017

marcusp said:
What a load of bollocks. Slade not winning a game is why we are relegated

hate Slade with a passion..

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · Apr 14, 2017

pusbccfc said:
Mowbray gets huge blame from me. Not getting us into the play offs (at least) last season was unforgivable.

I agree.

If Mowbray had left us in the top six then I would say you might be able to argue it wasn't his fault. However, he left us in the relegation zone so he cannot be excused.

The reality is, Mowbray, Venus, and Slade along with the board are all accountable for this season.

I just hope now with Robins at the helm, our stay in League 2 is a short one and we can bounce back.

Sba180 · Apr 14, 2017

Not giving Mowbray the backing in the summer and two thirds of the season between him going and robins coming in were our downfall

sw88 · Apr 14, 2017

This season is the perfect example of how not to go about things.

Mowbray walking
Venus remaining in charge too long
Slade coming and staying as long as he did
Dreadful transfer business in every window (and out of it - Yakfookinkubu)

ovduk78 · Apr 14, 2017

We have been in a downward spiral for too long and our response every 15-18 months is to change the manager and start again. We have no long term planning concerning the team and every season we seem to sign 8-10 players and hope they gel. It is not all down to budget as there are teams at the top of L1 like Scunthorpe & Fleetwood who would love our budget but they have progressively built a team and it gets tweaked every transfer window, even the change of a manager does not change the plans they have in place. Maybe Mowbray should have not released as many players at the end of last season without replacements, maybe he shouldn't have chased players who were never going to join and signed players more suited to L1, maybe Venus shouldn't have taken over, maybe Slade shouldn't have come in & maybe Robins should have directly replaced Mowbray and we may have survived. We need to end this downward cycle and get a plan in place and maybe we'll start moving upwards again

Grendel · Apr 14, 2017

halftimebovril said:
Not giving Mowbray the backing in the summer and two thirds of the season between him going and robins coming in were our downfall

What does not backing Mowbray actually mean? Tone wants to sign a championship player on £20k a week and doesn't persuade him to come?

Sorry won't wash. His performance since the start of January 2016 was inexcusable.

letsallsingtogether · Apr 14, 2017

Grendel said:
What does not backing Mowbray actually mean? Tone wants to sign a championship player on £20k a week and doesn't persuade him to come?

Sorry won't wash. His performance since the start of January 2016 was inexcusable.

What player was that then?

stupot07 · Apr 14, 2017

marcusp said:
What a load of bollocks. Slade not winning a game is why we are relegated

We beat Gillingham 2-1 under Slade. He was shite though. His and mowbray's 10 games are the main reasons we went down, as well as poor recruitment, shit owners, negative stench that has lingered around the club for years

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Hobo · Apr 14, 2017

ccfcway said:
leadership comes from the top.

Enough said

Yes the very very top...not the middle.

CovBurty · Apr 14, 2017

halftimebovril said:
Not giving Mowbray the backing in the summer and two thirds of the season between him going and robins coming in were our downfall

spot on. when Mowbray realised he had a shite team and walked. that was the time to recruit. but no. Sisu/Fisher went for cheapo Veno. cheap option everytime is killing us. hope Robins doesn't walk

covcity4life · Apr 14, 2017

The SS are reaponsible for us going down

Slade and sisu

ccfcway · Apr 14, 2017

CovBurty said:
spot on. when Mowbray realised he had a shite team and walked. that was the time to recruit. but no. Sisu/Fisher went for cheapo Veno. cheap option everytime is killing us. hope Robins doesn't walk

a shit team that has won a cup and robins has done ok with ?

CovBurty · Apr 14, 2017

covcity4life said:
The SS are reaponsible for us going down

Slade and sisu

Don't forget the players. poor passing abilities. midfielders who sit too deep. strikers that can't score. goalkeepers mistakes. they take some of the blame surely?

covcity4life · Apr 14, 2017

CovBurty said:
Don't forget the players. poor passing abilities. midfielders who sit too deep. strikers that can't score. goalkeepers mistakes. they take some of the blame surely?

Some of course. but robins has shown they more than capable of picking up pts. Just needed a manager in charge of them for longer

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