Not one penny more - reprise (12 Viewers)

[lordsummerisle]

Another superfan eh?
Now it really is coming out with you and Grendffy and a few others that in your worlds the only real fans are those that live in Coventry and get to go to games.
True mentality finally showing through.
As one of your other buddies continuously says on here: Get a grip.

To be fair it seems easy enough to back a NOPM campaign if, as you allude, you wouldn't be spending any money on the club anyway.

That's why I gave up Supermodels and Maserati's for Lent.

 

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[SkyBlueSwiss]

Yes, it certainly will have an affect; a team of youth players.

And there you go again, slamming those who choose to support their team. What is wrong with you people?

READ WHAT I SAID FFS!
Bloody Hell - stop reading what you want to read and read what is actually said. Where did I say that you should not give your money to SISU? My exact words were "It will have an effect. And yes - you go give your money to the hedge fund. They will be most grateful to you!" Where the f... am I saying you shouldn't spend your money a you want? Where the f... am I accusing you of being a poor fan? Where the f... am I saying you shouldn't go to games?

 

[dadgad]

We all want the same thing.
I just don't believe this campaign is the correct way to go.

I respect your position but your view of support has got precisely nowhere.
We are now faced with an opportunity to turn our support into a proper protest which, because the FL are involved may actually make a real difference.
Think about it.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

NOPM will weaken the club and the playing squad even more. Very easy to log onto a website from elsewhere in the world and criticize.

What's sad is if we had a decent fan base which could sell out the Ricoh then SISU likely wouldn't still be here

 

[dadgad]

READ WHAT I SAID FFS!
Bloody Hell - stop reading what you want to read and read what is actually said. Where did I say that you should not give your money to SISU? My exact words were "It will have an effect. And yes - you go give your money to the hedge fund. They will be most grateful to you!" Where the f... am I saying you shouldn't spend your money a you want? Where the f... am I accusing you of being a poor fan? Where the f... am I saying you shouldn't go to games?

Swiss, relax, they'll twist your words, let them.
Meanwhile the club we all support needs its fans to make a stand.
Notonepennymore

 

[hill83]

I respect your position but your view of support has got precisely nowhere.
We are now faced with an opportunity to turn our support into a proper protest which, because the FL are involved may actually make a real difference.
Think about it.

My way of support, which is being a supporter and going to games, would work if enough people joined me. Look at clubs like Leeds for example. Shit owners, protests, huge crowds.

Your way, if you do indeed go ahead with it, also relies on people joining. But we will end up in the shit. More than we are now.

I'd much prefer people to follow my campaign than yours.

 

[fernandopartridge]

'I'm in a mood' group

Ha ha ha - like it

 

[ajsccfc]

Anyone laying the guilt trip on fans who choose to continue to attend not only undermines the Pennywise campaign but also outs themself as a thick sixletterwordbegginningwiththeletterfandendingwiththeletterr.

 

[hill83]

READ WHAT I SAID FFS!
Bloody Hell - stop reading what you want to read and read what is actually said. Where did I say that you should not give your money to SISU? My exact words were "It will have an effect. And yes - you go give your money to the hedge fund. They will be most grateful to you!" Where the f... am I saying you shouldn't spend your money a you want? Where the f... am I accusing you of being a poor fan? Where the f... am I saying you shouldn't go to games?

It was aimed at me wasn't it? I'll gladly take Torchy under my wing and suggest it was aimed at both of us.

Carry on.

 

[SkyBlueSwiss]

Sick of people like me who don't support a tiny little 'I'm in a mood' group of hardly anyone, who will harm the club more than any shite owners if what they want to do actually happens?

Carry on being sick of me fella. I've no time for people like you.

Because you do not take the time to consider the long-term consequences.
To my mind and those of others, it is far better to suffer for the short term than to have owners like SISU for the long term. That you are incapable of grasping this point of view is not our fault. That you cannot see that the long term is more important than you sitting in your seat at 3pm on Saturday on the first day on the coming season.
So you may well have no time for people like me, but people like you with your short term attitude will in fact do much more lasting damage imho than those of us that are taking a long term point of view.
Still, you just carry on being blinkered and being sick of people like me and sitting in your seat for the short period of time it might be left to you if you get your way.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

It was aimed at me wasn't it? I'll gladly take Torchy under my wing and suggest it was aimed at both of us.

Carry on.

Probably aimed at me mate in fairness

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Because you do not take the time to consider the long-term consequences.
To my mind and those of others, it is far better to suffer for the short term than to have owners like SISU for the long term. That you are incapable of grasping this point of view is not our fault. That you cannot see that the long term is more important than you sitting in your seat at 3pm on Saturday on the first day on the coming season.
So you may well have no time for people like me, but people like you with your short term attitude will in fact do much more lasting damage imho than those of us that are taking a long term point of view.
Still, you just carry on being blinkered and being sick of people like me and sitting in your seat for the short period of time it might be left to you if you get your way.

No club because fans decided to stay away rather than support the lads on the pitch..

 

[lordsummerisle]

Meanwhile the club we all support needs its fans to make a stand.

So the new ground is going to be an Amish "Witness" style stadium put up in a day by everybody mucking in?

Nice one.

 

[hill83]

Because you do not take the time to consider the long-term consequences.
To my mind and those of others, it is far better to suffer for the short term than to have owners like SISU for the long term. That you are incapable of grasping this point of view is not our fault. That you cannot see that the long term is more important than you sitting in your seat at 3pm on Saturday on the first day on the coming season.
So you may well have no time for people like me, but people like you with your short term attitude will in fact do much more lasting damage imho than those of us that are taking a long term point of view.
Still, you just carry on being blinkered and being sick of people like me and sitting in your seat for the short period of time it might be left to you if you get your way.

Patronising prick. I know exactly what is going on and I know what you think the 'in a mood campaign' will achieve. My head isn't in the sand, I just disagree with you.
But what you think will work, will only hurt the club further.

Nothing more to say.

 

[SkyBlueSwiss]

Well by promoting that "Not one penny more" rubbish your are telling us not to spend money on the club and that would be telling me how to spend my money..

Who on Earth is telling you to do anything? Where am I telling you?
And consider your answer: "by promoting this Not one penny more rubbish". But in the opinion of many - maybe even a majority - of fans, this is not "rubbish".
That it is "rubbish" is your opinion - and may well be the opinion of a minority. Perhaps you might consider this before trashing other people's opinions/positions.

 

[The Reverend Skyblue]

No club because fans decided to stay away rather than support the lads on the pitch..

Rob, I can only speak for myself and I will be going to as many away games as I can do, so I am supporting the lads on the pitch,.i will be going to games I would never have considered going to before this whole shitty mess hit the fan.
It going to cost me more and take much more out of my weekend time to do this , and what I have read on here there are many doing the same ,so we are supporting the lads on the pitch.
If we end up at the Ricoh I would consider going to home games as well on separate matchday ticket basis. I will not even consider going to Walsall or where-ever and that's my stance.
There are very few people refusing to go to any games this season, infact I can't think of one

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Who on Earth is telling you to do anything? Where am I telling you?
And consider your answer: "by promoting this Not one penny more rubbish". But in the opinion of many - maybe even a majority - of fans, this is not "rubbish".
That it is "rubbish" is your opinion - and may well be the opinion of a minority. Perhaps you might consider this before trashing other people's opinions/positions.

It'll be rubbish when it destroys the club just bare that in mind..

It is obviously not the opinion of a minority as proved here there are more fans telling you what stupid a stupid notion this is then vice versa..

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Fisher and SISU have made it clear on a number of times that they won't sell the club at such a low point as it is worth nothing, our dullard fans think driving the club to an even lower point will make them want to sell

 

[SkyBlueSwiss]

What many of these Superfans forget is that we too spend money on the club, we too are supporters - some of us for well over half a century.
I pay for the player. I pay for replica shirts and keyrings and books and scarves and caps etc.
Where do these people get off thinking they are the only true fans? This is what angers me more than anything. I wonder how many of these Superfans would still be supporters and still be spending money if they had lived abroad for 35 years and had tried supporting Coventry in the frustrating days before the advent of the Internet.
It is easy for them to be fans when it is easy - wonder how many of these Superfans would still be around if they had to support their team as we had to for so many years.

 

[lordsummerisle]

Rob, I can only speak for myself and I will be going to as many away games as I can do, so I am supporting the lads on the pitch,.i will be going to games I would never have considered going to before this whole shitty mess hit the fan.
It going to cost me more and take much more out of my weekend time to do this , and what I have read on here there are many doing the same ,so we are supporting the lads on the pitch.
If we end up at the Ricoh I would consider going to home games as well on separate matchday ticket basis. I will not even consider going to Walsall or where-ever and that's my stance.
There are very few people refusing to go to any games this season, infact I can't think of one

I do hope that nobody goes to Franchise FC away, be a bit hypocritical really wouldn't it?

5000 or so last year wasn't it? Very proud they were too.

 

[hill83]

Rob, I can only speak for myself and I will be going to as many away games as I can do, so I am supporting the lads on the pitch,.i will be going to games I would never have considered going to before this whole shitty mess hit the fan.
It going to cost me more and take much more out of my weekend time to do this , and what I have read on here there are many doing the same ,so we are supporting the lads on the pitch.
If we end up at the Ricoh I would consider going to home games as well on separate matchday ticket basis. I will not even consider going to Walsall or where-ever and that's my stance.
There are very few people refusing to go to any games this season, infact I can't think of one

Can't argue with that. If we play home games out of the city I'll only be going to away games too.
My caveat is that we play at the Ricoh. I'm sure all the 'in a mood' campaigners will be attending away games no?
Might struggle to get a ticket for a few of them.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Rob, I can only speak for myself and I will be going to as many away games as I can do, so I am supporting the lads on the pitch,.i will be going to games I would never have considered going to before this whole shitty mess hit the fan.
It going to cost me more and take much more out of my weekend time to do this , and what I have read on here there are many doing the same ,so we are supporting the lads on the pitch.
If we end up at the Ricoh I would consider going to home games as well on separate matchday ticket basis. I will not even consider going to Walsall or where-ever and that's my stance.
There are very few people refusing to go to any games this season, infact I can't think of one

RSB, I accept that but lets be honest starving the club of revenue be it from merchandise, ticket sales, or anything else will kill the club.

Want an example? Look no further than the deal we have had for the past few years with ACL, starving the club of revenue the club feels its entitled to, I am not saying people are less fans for not attending, but if you are fanatical CCFC you need to be willing to support the club, looking to point the finger solves nothing..

 

[hill83]

What many of these Superfans forget is that we too spend money on the club, we too are supporters - some of us for well over half a century.
I pay for the player. I pay for replica shirts and keyrings and books and scarves and caps etc.
Where do these people get off thinking they are the only true fans? This is what angers me more than anything. I wonder how many of these Superfans would still be supporters and still be spending money if they had lived abroad for 35 years and had tried supporting Coventry in the frustrating days before the advent of the Internet.
It is easy for them to be fans when it is easy - wonder how many of these Superfans would still be around if they had to support their team as we had to for so many years.

Nobody is saying you aren't a fan if you are away and unable to go. I missed 3 years when I was in Nottingham at Uni, and that's only 50 miles away. The point is, it is a hell of a lot easier to support a boycott campaign when you can't make it anyway. It also makes the polls false. And saying 'Superfan' makes you come as cross as bitter. Maybe consider moving back here?

 

[SkyBlueSwiss]

Patronising prick. I know exactly what is going on and I know what you think the 'in a mood campaign' will achieve. My head isn't in the sand, I just disagree with you.
But what you think will work, will only hurt the club further.

Nothing more to say.

Now we are getting somewhere!
I can agree to disagree without getting "sick" over it.
You may well consider me to be a patronising prick, but I believe I am right and that the longer SISU are here, the worse it will be in the end.
I consider your stance very short-sighted and believe you are wrong and that our club will suffer badly for it, maybe even end up going out of existence. For that reason, I genuinely believe that our gaol should be the long-term point of view and that anything that removes SISU now/in the short term is the right strategy to follow.
We can agree to disagree, even though I might be a sick patronising prick!

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Can't argue with that. If we play home games out of the city I'll only be going to away games too.
My caveat is that we play at the Ricoh. I'm sure all the 'in a mood' campaigners will be attending away games no?
Might struggle to get a ticket for a few of them.

95% of the people who support NOPM will be back at the Ricoh at the first sniff of success or will be at Old Trafford, Anfield or Stamford Bridge were we to draw one of them away in the cup. I guarantee it

fair enough going to watch Stevenage and Crawley isn't an attractive proposition but just say that instead of hiding behind NOPM

 

[torchomatic]

I don't know these blinkered fans who go and cheer on the team they support. Splitters. I always thought that the fan/club thing was overrated. Clubs don't need 'em. They need people on computers all over the world logging onto message boards telling others what to do and making them feel guilty if they don't comply. LOL, that would never happen though, would it, eh?

Because you do not take the time to consider the long-term consequences.
To my mind and those of others, it is far better to suffer for the short term than to have owners like SISU for the long term. That you are incapable of grasping this point of view is not our fault. That you cannot see that the long term is more important than you sitting in your seat at 3pm on Saturday on the first day on the coming season.
So you may well have no time for people like me, but people like you with your short term attitude will in fact do much more lasting damage imho than those of us that are taking a long term point of view.
Still, you just carry on being blinkered and being sick of people like me and sitting in your seat for the short period of time it might be left to you if you get your way.

 

[hill83]

Now we are getting somewhere!
I can agree to disagree without getting "sick" over it.
You may well consider me to be a patronising prick, but I believe I am right and that the longer SISU are here, the worse it will be in the end.
I consider your stance very short-sighted and believe you are wrong and that our club will suffer badly for it, maybe even end up going out of existence. For that reason, I genuinely believe that our gaol should be the long-term point of view and that anything that removes SISU now/in the short term is the right strategy to follow.
We can agree to disagree, even though I might be a sick patronising prick!

Who's to say what the long term or short term view is?
Maybe we manage to wangle a bit of success over the next 2 years under Sisu and they sell and we carry on.
Maybe a boycott kills the club and we don't last until december this year?
You can't say I'm not looking at the long term. Just as I can't say you are.
All I can say is, I believe you are wrong. If you want, I'll get you a key ring and post it to you. *wink smiley*

 

[hill83]

95% of the people who support NOPM will be back at the Ricoh at the first sniff of success or will be at Old Trafford, Anfield or Stamford Bridge were we to draw one of them away in the cup. I guarantee it

fair enough going to watch Stevenage and Crawley isn't an attractive proposition but just say that instead of hiding behind NOPM

Ha ha! I was saving saying that for later.

 

[SkyBlueSwiss]

Nobody is saying you aren't a fan if you are away and unable to go. I missed 3 years when I was in Nottingham at Uni, and that's only 50 miles away. The point is, it is a hell of a lot easier to support a boycott campaign when you can't make it anyway. It also makes the polls false. And saying 'Superfan' makes you come as cross as bitter. Maybe consider moving back here?

Okay, enough of the temper and time to calm down maybe.
To respond to your post above Hill, it is both yes and no. You might think it is easy to boycott when we don't physically go to games anyway, and I can understand why and how you and others might think that. However, if you listened on Player and logged onto the forum, you might understand how desperate we are from all over the world to be involved and to be able to follow our team live (well, almost live. Sometimes the streaming is way behind, but you know what I mean!).
So difficult as it may seem to you that live in/near Coventry and are considering whether to go to games or not in response to what is happening with our club, it may well be that it is a bigger sacrifice for us ex-pats to give up the Player than for you to boycott physically. Yes, you do spend more money than we do, but then you get far more than we do for the money. We would be giving up our only link.

 

[ajsccfc]

The 'Superfan' schtick is so misguided and lacking self-awareness I'm sceptical as to whether I'm actually reading it.

 

[SkyBlueSwiss]

Who's to say what the long term or short term view is?
Maybe we manage to wangle a bit of success over the next 2 years under Sisu and they sell and we carry on.
Maybe a boycott kills the club and we don't last until december this year?
You can't say I'm not looking at the long term. Just as I can't say you are.
All I can say is, I believe you are wrong. If you want, I'll get you a key ring and post it to you. *wink smiley*

Here you go:

 

[The Reverend Skyblue]

95% of the people who support NOPM will be back at the Ricoh at the first sniff of success or will be at Old Trafford, Anfield or Stamford Bridge were we to draw one of them away in the cup. I guarantee it

fair enough going to watch Stevenage and Crawley isn't an attractive proposition but just say that instead of hiding behind NOPM

You can not guarantee nothing, you can guess ,you can estimate, you can predict, but you can not guarantee nothing without asking everyone of the people in the NOPM campaign

You do not know these people from Adam, so your quote is ridiculous .A lot of people have seen us play the likes of Man Utd Liverpool etc before, many many times in most cases, so why would they throw what they believe in to see them play them again
We were in the top division once you know, 34 years infact

 

[skybluehugh]

NOPM will weaken the club and the playing squad even more. Very easy to log onto a website from elsewhere in the world and criticize.

Torch I know you and I don't see eye to eye on the owner issue, but surely even you can see we CAN NOT get any weaker. The club is on it's knees and these gits hijacked our one chance of getting this mess sorted out with new owners. We have no ground we are in administration and under a transfer embargo. Other than the name this club is already dead unless the FL do block them from taking us over.

 

[Noggin]

Fisher and SISU have made it clear on a number of times that they won't sell the club at such a low point as it is worth nothing, our dullard fans think driving the club to an even lower point will make them want to sell

Thats not accurate, fisher said you don't sell at the low point, he's right you don't, but what he fails to understand is we arn't at the low point, we probably have 2 more divisions and many thousands of fans to lose yet if his plan goes ahead.

If you buy stock in a company at £40 a share and they drop to £20, if you think this is the low point you shouldn't sell, if you think this is no where near the low point and there is no realistic chance of the stock going back up you should sell. Keeping the stock is just going to lose you more money.

 

[dadgad]

Torch I know you and I don't see eye to eye on the owner issue, but surely even you can see we CAN NOT get any weaker. The club is on it's knees and these gits hijacked our one chance of getting this mess sorted out with new owners. We have no ground we are in administration and under a transfer embargo. Other than the name this club is already dead unless the FL do block them from taking us over.

Exactly right.