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wince

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not just when you get bored and decide to give up
What a top post , where are the (will fight till the game is won) people ? fans have the power to sort this mess out because sisu and acl are fighting over who gets our money, we should be telling both of them where we wont to play, no one will die if they don't see city at sixfields , they want our money , we want to give it to them ,but not in northampton
 

torchomatic

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NOPM should mean a total boycott, home and away.
 

Jim

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NOPM should mean a total boycott, home and away.

The problem then is that the protest loses some of it's effect. It is far more telling that the fans will continue to support the team at grounds across the country but will then refuse to attend at Northampton. It shows a structured approach to the protest that is more than just merely abandoning the team.
 

Nick

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It would be a shame if we did get to Wembley in the JPT that nobody would go and we would potentially take the lowest crowd ever with us.
 

theferret

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NOPM should mean a total boycott, home and away.

No it shouldn't.

Would be an absolute travesty if away numbers started to dwindle. Away games are a perfect opportunity for us to show how much we care - not just to lift out own spirits, but also as a show of strength to supporters of other clubs and also to the media. There is no value in boycotting away games - other than to convey the message that we have all given up completely.

I don't care if there is a contradiction in cheering on a team that you are not contributing to financially - that sort of pedantry has no place when so much is at stake. I urge as many people as possible to attend as many away games as possible. Next 5, without looking so order might be wrong, are Shrewsbury, Vale, Wolves, Stevenage and Walsall - we should be packing them all out and making a statement.
 
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bigfatronssba

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I can't help but think that to some on here Neville Chamberlain must have been the greatest statesman ever.
 

torchomatic

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I don't agree, it is already diluted. People say I'm not going to Sixfields to support "Northampton Sky Blues", "SISU Utd", etc etc and attack people that do. Yet, they travel to see "Northampton Sky Blues", "SISU Utd" etc anyway at away matches. Doesn't make sense. We a

For the record, I'm, not saying we SHOULD as people can and should do as they choose, however the whole away games thing doesn't make any sense to me; I can't see how NOPM can work when people pick and choose and bend the "rules" to suit themselves.

The problem then is that the protest loses some of it's effect. It is far more telling that the fans will continue to support the team at grounds across the country but will then refuse to attend at Northampton. It shows a structured approach to the protest that is more than just merely abandoning the team.
 

torchomatic

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No it shouldn't.

Would be an absolute travesty if away numbers started to dwindle. Away games are a perfectly opportunity for us to show how much we care - not just to lift out own spirits, but also as a show of strength to supporters of other clubs and also to the media. There is no value in boycotting away games - other than to convey the message that we have all given up completely.

I don't care if there is a contradiction in cheering on a team that you are not contributing to financially - that sort of pedantry has no place when so much is at stake. I urge as many people as possible to attend as many away games as possible. Next 5, without looking so order might be wrong, are Shrewsbury, Vale, Wolves, Stevenage and Walsall - we should be packing them all out and making a statement.

Frankly I think this would be the far better message than the 'starve SISU Out - force them to sell up' that seems to have taken hold.

Rather than alienate and antagonise, I'd be working with people who want to go to Northampton as a message that says 'this is what you could have, if you joined all sets of fans together' is a far more attractive one for potential purchasers, and far more likely to have them at least attempt to meet whatever SISU want to leave.

That can be done by both boycotting Northampton games and only going top away games, it can be done by boycotting Northampton games and going to a charity match... it can also be done by going to Northampton games.

The point being what you're showing is the potential that's being missed out on, as long as no resolution is found. Far more constructive than dick waving about who's the better fan and risk all groups being unable to be stitched back together in the future.
 

Nick

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I don't agree, it is already diluted. People say I'm not going to Sixfields to support "Northampton Sky Blues", "SISU Utd", etc etc and attack people that do. Yet, they travel to see "Northampton Sky Blues", "SISU Utd" etc anyway at away matches. Doesn't make sense. We a

For the record, I'm, not saying we SHOULD as people can and should do as they choose, however the whole away games thing doesn't make any sense to me; I can't see how NOPM can work when people pick and choose and bend the "rules" to suit themselves.

It will just be a matter of time before people do go back which is what I have said all along, I am not saying everybody but a % of the NOPM shouters will go back if we keep winning and if we ever did get to Wembley it would be rammed with city fans still like the Crewe game was...

When / if the shirt comes out I give it 2 weeks before you see a picture of somebody protesting in the new shirt..
 

torchomatic

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Covstu

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I dont get this 'starve them out' thing, do you really think that SISU have not seen this coming. Lets face it they knew most of the fans were on their back when we were at the Ricoh and when we dropped into league one so when this was planned (clearly a plan B) that they must have known/expected that most of the fans wouldnt have wanted to travel to N'ton. Hate them or not, they have been steps ahead of ACL and co most of the way so to think they banked on a number of fans attending to break even is naive.
 

letsallsingtogether

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Ok then N.I.N.E
Not In Northampton Ever


I don't agree, it is already diluted. People say I'm not going to Sixfields to support "Northampton Sky Blues", "SISU Utd", etc etc and attack people that do. Yet, they travel to see "Northampton Sky Blues", "SISU Utd" etc anyway at away matches. Doesn't make sense. We a

For the record, I'm, not saying we SHOULD as people can and should do as they choose, however the whole away games thing doesn't make any sense to me; I can't see how NOPM can work when people pick and choose and bend the "rules" to suit themselves.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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It will just be a matter of time before people do go back which is what I have said all along, I am not saying everybody but a % of the NOPM shouters will go back if we keep winning and if we ever did get to Wembley it would be rammed with city fans still like the Crewe game was...

When / if the shirt comes out I give it 2 weeks before you see a picture of somebody protesting in the new shirt..

And no doubt if that happens someone will post on here that it proves NOPM is a failiure.






While we play in front of the lowest crowds in the division........
















While we play in front of the lowest league crowds in our history............
 

Nick

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And no doubt if that happens someone will post on here that it proves NOPM is a failiure.






While we play in front of the lowest crowds in the division........
















While we play in front of the lowest league crowds in our history............

The only way it wouldn't be a failure is if SISU were to go because of it...
 
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The only way it wouldn't be a failure is if SISU were to go because of it...

...which is impossible to determine too, of course.

Personally I think they'll only go when it's their terms, and their terms only.

That said, there's a certain logic that it might be a good thing that even if they went because they decided to, the message was it was fan power removing them. The message for future owners might be worth the bending of the truth.
 

Seyeclops666

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It will just be a matter of time before people do go back which is what I have said all along, I am not saying everybody but a % of the NOPM shouters will go back if we keep winning and if we ever did get to Wembley it would be rammed with city fans still like the Crewe game was...

When / if the shirt comes out I give it 2 weeks before you see a picture of somebody protesting in the new shirt..

what a sad life you must lead - bottling it at every turn and encouraging others to do the same.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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The only way it wouldn't be a failure is if SISU were to go because of it...

A couple of points:

Firstly, while I'd be delighted if SISU decided to depart, I think that the primary aim of NOPM is pretty generally agreed to be to get us playing back in Coventry, so if that were to happen, I'd certainly consider that to be a success.

The more general point though, was to question the rather sneering attitude that a number of posters take to NOPM (not picking on you here), seemingly attempting to find examples that they believe show some form of inconsistency in approach, so that they can then metaphorically wave them above their heads in a show of triumph.

NOPM is not a political party (not that they are generally of one mind), neither is it an organisation where the members have all signed up to a set of rules that they have sworn an oath to uphold.

Rather it is an attempt to show disgust (my word, not everyone's) at the actions of SISU in moving our club out of its city and to express that disgust by attempting to withhold as much revenue as possible from them.

If someone used to buy 4 season tickets for the Ricoh and now doesn't go to Sixfields, I don't believe that their action (or NOPM in general) would be undermined if their child desperately wanted a Coventry shirt for his/her birthday and they decided to buy it for them.

Mr Fisher said in the forums that he expected between 3k and 6k at Sixfields, the latter if things were going well. At the moment we have early season optimism, good weather and a team that has scored 9 goals in the last 2 games. Had you put that scenario to Mr Fisher back in July, I think it's a pretty safe bet that he'd have expected approaching a full house at the weekend.

We'll have to wait to see what happens on Sunday, but if the attendance is still around the 2k mark, I cannot believe that that will have no impact on SISU as that would extrapolate to a seven figure revenue loss over the season against expectations. To be clear, I don't believe that this will lead to an instant decision to throw the towel in, but I do believe that it will start to influence their thinking and their view about what they may (or may not) be able to achieve over the longer term.
 

Nick

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A couple of points:

Firstly, while I'd be delighted if SISU decided to depart, I think that the primary aim of NOPM is pretty generally agreed to be to get us playing back in Coventry, so if that were to happen, I'd certainly consider that to be a success.

The more general point though, was to question the rather sneering attitude that a number of posters take to NOPM (not picking on you here), seemingly attempting to find examples that they believe show some form of inconsistency in approach, so that they can then metaphorically wave them above their heads in a show of triumph.

NOPM is not a political party (not that they are generally of one mind), neither is it an organisation where the members have all signed up to a set of rules that they have sworn an oath to uphold.

Rather it is an attempt to show disgust (my word, not everyone's) at the actions of SISU in moving our club out of its city and to express that disgust by attempting to withhold as much revenue as possible from them.

If someone used to buy 4 season tickets for the Ricoh and now doesn't go to Sixfields, I don't believe that their action (or NOPM in general) would be undermined if their child desperately wanted a Coventry shirt for his/her birthday and they decided to buy it for them.

Mr Fisher said in the forums that he expected between 3k and 6k at Sixfields, the latter if things were going well. At the moment we have early season optimism, good weather and a team that has scored 9 goals in the last 2 games. Had you put that scenario to Mr Fisher back in July, I think it's a pretty safe bet that he'd have expected approaching a full house at the weekend.

We'll have to wait to see what happens on Sunday, but if the attendance is still around the 2k mark, I cannot believe that that will have no impact on SISU as that would extrapolate to a seven figure revenue loss over the season against expectations. To be clear, I don't believe that this will lead to an instant decision to throw the towel in, but I do believe that it will start to influence their thinking and their view about what they may (or may not) be able to achieve over the longer term.

What about the attitude towards people who still want to go to games from some NOPM people? Standing outside shouting at them and trying to tell them not to go in and shouting "SCAB, NOPM, SISU OUT" as much as possible.

I think it is fair enough if people want to not spend anything, the same as if they want to go to games as it is their choice. It is just annoying when people try to force their views across and have a go because somebody wants to go and watch football and calling them selfish etc.
 

DazzleTommyDazzle

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What about the attitude towards people who still want to go to games from some NOPM people? Standing outside shouting at them and trying to tell them not to go in and shouting "SCAB, NOPM, SISU OUT" as much as possible.

I think it is fair enough if people want to not spend anything, the same as if they want to go to games as it is their choice. It is just annoying when people try to force their views across and have a go because somebody wants to go and watch football and calling them selfish etc.

I agree.

I'd always try to persuade people not to go, but wouldn't "attack" them for so doing, firstly because I don't think that it's right and secondly because I think it's more likely to make them "dig in" to their choice and so be less open to reasonable persuasion.
 

wince

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I dont get this 'starve them out' thing, do you really think that SISU have not seen this coming. Lets face it they knew most of the fans were on their back when we were at the Ricoh and when we dropped into league one so when this was planned (clearly a plan B) that they must have known/expected that most of the fans wouldnt have wanted to travel to N'ton. Hate them or not, they have been steps ahead of ACL and co most of the way so to think they banked on a number of fans attending to break even is ,naive.
No company can run a business without customers, together we have the power to end this , take your ccfc fan hat off for a second and ask if a theatre or a shop could treat its customers like this , and the answer is on
 

Evo1883

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I think the team will do better without us there lol, I'm not going regardless but still want us to win every game
 

Sky Blue Dal

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I will be following Woking Town this weekend. They are playing home against Welling United.

Come on you Cardinals!!!!


Hell will freeze over before I go to Sixfields or Ricoh whilst SISU are still at the helms.
 

Ashdown1

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I dont get this 'starve them out' thing, do you really think that SISU have not seen this coming. Lets face it they knew most of the fans were on their back when we were at the Ricoh and when we dropped into league one so when this was planned (clearly a plan B) that they must have known/expected that most of the fans wouldnt have wanted to travel to N'ton. Hate them or not, they have been steps ahead of ACL and co most of the way so to think they banked on a number of fans attending to break even is naive.

You are wrong on so many points. SISU have resorted to breaking the law and coercing FL authorities and administrators and then ripping the club from its own community. The final insult to us and indeed Northampton fans is their latest policy of offering free tickets to youth groups and schools in the locality. If they didn't need to instigate repeat business then why are they trying to lure people to games..........it's for revenue to support their disastrous and spiteful move to the middle of fucking nowhere. They need revenue, deny them at every turn !!
 

Covstu

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You are wrong on so many points. SISU have resorted to breaking the law and coercing FL authorities and administrators and then ripping the club from its own community. The final insult to us and indeed Northampton fans is their latest policy of offering free tickets to youth groups and schools in the locality. If they didn't need to instigate repeat business then why are they trying to lure people to games..........it's for revenue to support their disastrous and spiteful move to the middle of fucking nowhere. They need revenue, deny them at every turn !!

how is moving the club breaking the law?? is there any proof of them 'coercing FL authorities'. The FL have actually come out and said they agree with the fans but powerless to do anythign about it so they havent actually broken the law as you put it???
Offering tickets to schools and the youth is common practice in every sport in every country, why should this be different??
 

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