Nick Powell and Elite Player Performance Plan (1 Viewer)

[leypb]

Nick Powell - The Million Pound Goal

Didn't Cov have a scout at Gresty Road earlier in the season? If so this article is interesting! Also what do people think of the Elite Player Performance Plan

 

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[Skybluedar]

Hard to know just how much of a gulf this will leave between the rich clubs and everyone else. It will make it so tough to hang onto anyone with real talent. Like this Powell lad. That is probably one of the finest goals that has been scored at Wembley period.

 

[Gaz]

This Elite Player Performance Plan is only going to keep the gap as big and maybe even make it more between the top clubs and the bottom ones.

Would see a lot more movement up and down the leagues if big clubs couldn't just grab the good youth players like they do.

 

[stupot07]

Its a con IMO, and one that favours the big teams. I remember seeing the west ham and Watford academy director's on sky sports at the time, and they were saying that it doesn't matter how fancy your training ground it, it's about the quality of the work on the big green thing that counts, and that the big clubs don't have the monopoly on quality coaching.

Thought the EPP Arsenal could've poached Oxlade-Chamberlain for about £100k, same with Newcastle and Bigi.

It was quite telling that not long ago, when Capello was still in charge over half of the England squad had started in the football league.

 

[AlexJohnson93]

Ridiculous goal considering he's 18 and the perfect first touch and volley were with his weaker foot.

 

[Disorganised1]

The clubs that don't have a youth policy voted in favour of the change - it gave them money now.

 

[tanchahal]

Someone briefly explain the elite player performance thing to me please?

 

[Disorganised1]

Basically it puts a price on any youth player according to age - so if he's 17 say, unless you can start a bidding war between clubs they can buy him for £100,000. There are a couple of caveats to prevent explotation - ie Chelsea buying every player in the country who'se under 17, but damn all really. It's by the big boys, for the big boys.

 

[tanchahal]

Basically it puts a price on any youth player according to age - so if he's 17 say, unless you can start a bidding war between clubs they can buy him for £100,000. There are a couple of caveats to prevent explotation - ie Chelsea buying every player in the country who'se under 17, but damn all really. It's by the big boys, for the big boys.

The governing bodies of football have gone insane

 

[hamil99]

Will ruin academys like Crewe and ours...

 

[SkyBlueJohnso]

so anyone that shows a bit of promise in an academy risks being snapped up by one of the big boys for 100k??
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our academy had a great season last year and i'm sure there'll be a few clubs/scouts watching them, but £100k for a talented & promising 17 year old is a bit of a joke after a club have brought him through their ranks for a few years.

 

[stupot07]

so anyone that shows a bit of promise in an academy risks being snapped up by one of the big boys for 100k??
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our academy had a great season last year and i'm sure there'll be a few clubs/scouts watching them, but £100k for a talented & promising 17 year old is a bit of a joke after a club have brought him through their ranks for a few years.

That's the thing Karl. Clubs will only pay for the cost of coaching a player has received by a club during his time there, not what a player is worth or may be worth. This is based on a formula.

 

[SkyBlueJohnso]

That's the thing Karl. Clubs will only pay for the cost of coaching a player has received by a club during his time there, not what a player is worth or may be worth. This is based on a formula.

so could that not work both ways then for the lower clubs??? a promising youngster at man utd for example, realistically no chance of getting into their 1st team, but wants to play regular football, good enough for championship level with potential for mid-low table premiership club, a championship club comes in for him and only has to pay £100k ???

 

[stupot07]

Oh and a category A academy can visit any academy to look at its players training with 48 hours notice.

 

[stupot07]

so could that not work both ways then for the lower clubs??? a promising youngster at man utd for example, realistically no chance of getting into their 1st team, but wants to play regular football, good enough for championship level with potential for mid-low table premiership club, a championship club comes in for him and only has to pay £100k ???

Not sure, that fixed formula is for players under 17, so Liverpool would have probably just bought Thomas instead of taking him on loan. I would think most big clubs will keep most of their youngsters until 20-21 (e.g Olly Norwood) so we'd have to pay what they want for them.

I fear that scouts will come in and sign the most promising youngster, so kids like Thomas, bigi, Christie, etc would already have been poached and at better clubs.

 

[SkyBlueJohnso]

Not sure, that fixed formula is for players under 17, so Liverpool would have probably just bought Thomas instead of taking him on loan. I would think most big clubs will keep most of their youngsters until 20-21 (e.g Olly Norwood) so we'd have to pay what they want for them.

I fear that scouts will come in and sign the most promising youngster, so kids like Thomas, bigi, Christie, etc would already have been poached and at better clubs.

so it seems anyone with decent chances of making it in the Prem will be snapped up by the big clubs, they'll be prepared to let their 'poorer' players leave and still get £100k for them, and the gap between top clubs and the rest gets wider and wider!!!

unless there is some protection or clauses for future payments based on performance, games played, achievements, international call ups etc i can see this killing academies off altogether. What's the point of spending 5-6 years developing a player for someone to come in and take him off you for 100k?

 

[Jenks]

so it seems anyone with decent chances of making it in the Prem will be snapped up by the big clubs, they'll be prepared to let their 'poorer' players leave and still get £100k for them, and the gap between top clubs and the rest gets wider and wider!!!

unless there is some protection or clauses for future payments based on performance, games played, achievements, international call ups etc i can see this killing academies off altogether. What's the point of spending 5-6 years developing a player for someone to come in and take him off you for 100k?

There are, and they're fairly substantial.

 

[dongonzalos]

Ridiculous goal considering he's 18 and the perfect first touch and volley were with his weaker foot.

I watched the match and he dominated the defenders. It was very similar to Rooney