Nice gesture by the club. (2 Viewers)

edgy · Jan 22, 2014

They are selling a limited amount of "FA Cup" shirts at £10 each. You can add the 12bet.com and Pure Properties logos for £7 with all proceeds from this going to the Grace charity.

Astute · Jan 22, 2014

We had all better get ready for the next bit of shit news then.

runner · Jan 22, 2014

Yeah, agree Astute ... what's in it for them ?

SkyblueBazza · Jan 22, 2014

edgy said:
They are selling a limited amount of "FA Cup" shirts at £10 each. You can add the 12bet.com and Pure Properties logos for £7 with all proceeds from this going to the Grace charity.

What? You mean fans have to pay extra in order to advertise these organisations on what by that stage would be the fan's own property?

"A fool & his money are easily parted"

PUSB

torchomatic · Jan 22, 2014

I know. Ridiculous. This replica shirt thing will never catch on. Grace Charity get the proceeds my arse, I bet it goes straight into the pockets of Joyless and SISUE.

SkyblueBazza said:
What? You mean fans have to pay extra in order to advertise these organisations on what by that stage would be the fan's own property?

"A fool & his money are easily parted"

PUSB

valiant15 · Jan 22, 2014

Shouldn't the logo's already be on the shirt?

So you pay £10 for the shirt and £7 for the logo's, the £7 goes to charity, what happens to the £10?

Is the club also making a charitable donation?

And what is an fa cup shirt?

Please don't tell me its got some cheesy arsenal v Coventry gimmick embroidered on it.

Nick · Jan 22, 2014

You also have to pay extra to have the Charity on there as I think as standard they come with nothing, people would only moan that they bought the shirt with a sponsor and it changed straight after.

Astute · Jan 22, 2014

runner said:
Yeah, agree Astute ... what's in it for them ?

We shall see. Whenever they release something not normal for them they quickly hit us with bad news.

hill83 · Jan 22, 2014

"Fancy a yellow garish nylon shirt with bollocks on the front and back?"
"Then buy this shite, only £17, you will look the bollocks down the battle cruiser."

chiefdave · Jan 22, 2014

At a guess we're wearing the yellow kit as there's a shedload of the left hence them trying to shift them for a tenner a go off the back of this game. No reason not to be in Sky Blue, hardly a clash with red is it?!

Nick · Jan 22, 2014

Decent business idea if they are trying to flog some old stock to be fair. Can't blame them.

edgy · Jan 22, 2014

Pimp my whinge.

steveo1987 · Jan 22, 2014

torchomatic said:
I know. Ridiculous. This replica shirt thing will never catch on. Grace Charity get the proceeds my arse, I bet it goes straight into the pockets of Joyless and SISUE.

Predictable

Noggin · Jan 22, 2014

edgy said:
They are selling a limited amount of "FA Cup" shirts at £10 each. You can add the 12bet.com and Pure Properties logos for £7 with all proceeds from this going to the Grace charity.

Only the sale of the logos goes to charity and in the mean time presumably the sponsors are paying extra the more logos people take, so sisu are charging £10 for the shirt which is what they were already charging, then getting paid extra from the sponcer companies for each £7 donation we give to charity while spoiling our £10 shirt with crappy logos.

The charity will make some money so I have no problem with this but it's hardly a nice gesture. They are trying to profit more themselves by appealing to peoples charitable side.

If you want the shirt buy it and give the £7 youself to charity. that way your shirt isn't spoiled by the sponcer logos.

Sisu arn't actually giving any money to charity, just the £7 extra that the shirts cost so they can give £7

edgy · Jan 22, 2014

It's raising money for charity. It's a nice gesture. Get the fook over it.

valiant15 · Jan 22, 2014

What the club should do is sell £30k worth of logo's then pay off the higgs charity that they owe.

covcity4life · Jan 22, 2014

valiant15 said:
What the club should do is sell £30k worth of logo's then pay off the higgs charity that they owe.

they will probably make a profit by suing them though.

shmmeee · Jan 22, 2014

steveo1987 said:
Predictable

Whoops. Offence alarm went off a bit soon there mate, Torchy's one of the Sixfielders. That was sarcasm.

Hilarious that you guys now can't tell perceived abuse from the abuse you're giving

Bill Glazier · Jan 22, 2014

We should be in sky blue on Friday.

shmmeee · Jan 22, 2014

Good gesture (though again behind the fan outrage at "screwing over Grace" - which we weren't).

Good to see someone somewhere is thinking about fan relations.

Noggin · Jan 22, 2014

edgy said:
It's raising money for charity. It's a nice gesture. Get the fook over it.

I don't have anything to get over, I said the charity get money so I don't have a problem with it (though I think the amount the charity is going to get is tiny, close to zero in fact because who in their right mind pays £7 to have their shirt made worse?)

They are selling a product no one wants (logos of companies that mean nothing to us) for £7 and giving that £7 to charity and they are being paid by the sponsors to do this.

So there is 2 income streams from this product no one wants, one of those income streams they will keep the other one they give to charity.

I'm not criticising Sisu for this just stating they don't deserve praise.

If they were giving the entire £17 to charity, I promise you I'd have said well done to them, but they aren't, they are using peoples desire to help charities to sell off old stock and bring in money from a sponsor, it's quite clever, I'll give them that, but praise worthy, it's not.

valiant15 · Jan 22, 2014

covcity4life said:
they will probably make a profit by suing them though.

The higgs (a charity) are suing sisu for money they are owed.

What's your point?

Captain Dart · Jan 22, 2014

edgy said:
They are selling a limited amount of "FA Cup" shirts at £10 each. You can add the 12bet.com and Pure Properties logos for £7 with all proceeds from this going to the Grace charity.

Why not give money to the charity direct? Cut out the middleman.

sw88 · Jan 22, 2014

Which shirt? As I tried to get a medium in the yellow strip and te shop had none. Unless I wanted 'Clarke - 2' on the back....

covcity4life · Jan 22, 2014

valiant15 said:
The higgs (a charity) are suing sisu for money they are owed.

What's your point?

that sisu might end up gaining from lawsuit rather than pay higgs back.

torchomatic · Jan 22, 2014

And money is going to Grace's charity.

I think the two charities should fight over the money. They could hire the Ricoh.

valiant15 said:
The higgs (a charity) are suing sisu for money they are owed.

What's your point?

cofastreecity · Jan 22, 2014

edgy said:
They are selling a limited amount of "FA Cup" shirts at £10 each. You can add the 12bet.com and Pure Properties logos for £7 with all proceeds from this going to the Grace charity.

So they up the PR on how kind the Club are to a great cause like the childrens Grace Charity, whilst they agressively attack another Cov Children's Charity such as the Higgs, because of their involvement with the Ricoh, by claiming hundreds of thousands of pounds in damages, big hearts hey, don't think so, animals.

valiant15 · Jan 22, 2014

torchomatic said:
And money is going to Grace's charity.

I think the two charities should fight over the money. They could hire the Ricoh.

Any money that goes to charity is a good thing.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Jan 22, 2014

valiant15 said:
Shouldn't the logo's already be on the shirt?

So you pay £10 for the shirt and £7 for the logo's, the £7 goes to charity, what happens to the £10?

Is the club also making a charitable donation?

And what is an fa cup shirt?

Please don't tell me its got some cheesy arsenal v Coventry gimmick embroidered on it.

There is no special FA Cup shirt, its just the regular away kit which is available for £10. You can pay £7 extra to get the sponsors for the Arsenal match on the shirt.

Ashdown1 · Jan 22, 2014

I would imagine a decision like this would come from club employees rather than head office so it's neither a for or against SISU issue really ?!

duffer · Jan 22, 2014

Money going to charity is a good thing. I'm just not convinced that this is the selfless act that it at first appears to be. In fact, I'm not sure that this actually costs the club anything - the generosity here is primarily from the supporters. The club get rid of some end-of-stock shirts, the sponsors tout their name around a bit more.

More generous might have been to leave the Grace Academy as the sponsor for the shirts for the Arsenal game (giving them national coverage) sell the shirts for £15 a pop and chuck a fiver a time to Grace off of the back of that too. Of course, that wouldn't make the club as much money.

It pains me to say it, but Villa beat this kind of thing all ends up with their Acorns tie in. http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/Acorns

(eeurgh, I had to go to AVFC. Now I need to wash my eyes and delete my browsing history.)

Sorry if this appears grumpy. I'm not saying it's a cheap stunt because it's a SISU idea. It's simply, imho, a cheap stunt.

WillieStanley · Jan 22, 2014

Only here would you find a thread like this. Unbelievable. Buy a cheap replica shirt and have the option of making a donation to a charity. What the frig is wrong with that?

duffer · Jan 22, 2014

WillieStanley said:
Only here would you find a thread like this. Unbelievable. Buy a cheap replica shirt and have the option of making a donation to a charity. What the frig is wrong with that?

There's nowt wrong with it, as long as you're not pretending that the club are putting themselves out in a big way to do it.

Noggin · Jan 22, 2014

WillieStanley said:
Only here would you find a thread like this. Unbelievable. Buy a cheap replica shirt and have the option of making a donation to a charity. What the frig is wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with it but the club aren't doing anything, it's almost the same as us making the donation ourselves to the charity but if we like this way we can get our shirt spoiled.

If Sisu sold shirts and donated the money to charity they deserve praise, if sisu sell scarves and donate money to charity they deserve praise, if sisu sell anything that people may want to buy and donate the proceeds to charity sisu deserve praise but they aren't doing any of those things, they are selling logos to companies and giving the money to charity and are being paid by these companies to do so.

Sisu aren't sacrificing anything to do this in fact they are gaining, a from selling more shirts, b taking the money from the sponsor companies.

There is no real downside, they aren't doing anything wrong and perhaps a charity will even benefit a little but they don't deserve praise for it, they are getting paid for this and it benefits them.

I've got some old dirty underwear with holes in, I was going to throw them out but if anyone wants to give me £10 I'll give £9 to charity. Aren't I generous? Or perhaps the purchaser of my worthless boxers are actually the one being generous and I deserve no praise at all. That said I think my underwear with holes in still has significantly more worth and value than an iron on logo of a betting company.

Noggin · Jan 22, 2014

WillieStanley said:
Only here would you find a thread like this. Unbelievable. Buy a cheap replica shirt and have the option of making a donation to a charity. What the frig is wrong with that?

We've always had the option of buying the shirt (the price hasn't changed from what its been for a while) and making the donation to charity, but now it comes with a free defacement of the shirt and sisu get to make it sound like its them making the donation when it isn't, it's whoever buys the logos.

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